CBD (thc free) for pain relief

[Davewm]

I’ve had a Triple Heart Bypass and Mitral Valve Repair.

Before that I had a Lumber Spinal Laminectomy (which only worked for about 4 months).

I’ve since also been diagnosed with Heart Failure so pain relief is very difficult.

The Spinal Stenosis is now severe all down the Lumbar Region.

I was given Oramorph and have now had MTC Morphine added in addition to Lidocaine Patches.

I’ve been under the Pain Management Consultant for a few years now but at my last appointment he said there’s no further help he can offer me.

He’s suggested that he would refer me back to the Spinal Surgeons and I’m very concerned as they originally said it was too risky to have further surgery due to my Heart Condition.

I’ve been looking into Medicinal Cannabis but unless I could get NHS funding the costs would prevent me going private.

I’ve recently looked into CBD Oil and spoke to a supplier who sold me some CBD Bothers Black Edition CBD oil which is 1200mg in 10ml. This is Thc free and from the bottle it says it’s 12%. I was told this would be good for pain relief however due to having all my other medications she advised me to check with a Pharmacist (particularly with regards to the Morphine meds).

On checking the Pharmacist said there’s not enough research been done on the interactions with my existing medication so she said it was best not to take it.

Has anyone had experience with this CBD Oil?

I’m prepared to leave off the Morphine medication in order to try the CBD as I’m not getting sufficient relief from the morphine and I’m still in a lot of pain?

Does anyone have any thoughts/advice.

Incidentally I’ve checked with the hospital and it’s a 44 week wait to see a consultant?

Kind regards

David

[deb25426]

***this is just my opinion. More research needed

If it’s CBD, I don’t think it will make you drowsy as it’s had the THC taken out… I know a few people that had cancer and it helped them so much.

I’m pretty sure your pharmacist would know more than they are telling you, so perhaps try another one.

I know this is not much help, but I’ve seen the good it can do for people with cancer. Hope you can get some pain relief x

[Blackwitch]

I was on a medicinal cannabis ’research’ trial for 6 months. I gradually reduced my usual meds, including morphine, before I started. You’d think if it was for ‘research’ purposes, it would be free of charge but it costs a small fortune for the oils. The programme was certified by the CQC so I thought it must be OK. Being in so much pain and Pain Clinics doing nothing I decided to give it a go. Quite honestly, it might have been snake oil for all the good it did. I realise it works for some people but not for back pain (caused by rotational scoliosis) and certainly not for me. It was certainly a waste of money. I have just been referred to yet another Pain Clinic (7th) and still on the waiting list. I have looked online and it says, ‘we don’t see people who have pain caused by scoliosis’! That should be interesting then. In all the other Pain Clinics, I have not progressed from breathing and pelvic floor exercises in any of them. Nobody seems to know what to do and I was even told that ‘scoliosis doesn’t cause pain’. My GP won’t refer me to a Scoliosis Specialist because he thinks the Pain Clinic have magically cured me.

By all means try to get on the medicinal cannabis trial but it’s expensive and didn’t work for me. Avoid buying it online as it’s not strong enough to work and you may find it’s not even cannabis oil. Sorry, but this is just my opinion. It could work for others. Good luck. I hope you find something to help you soon. BW

[Davewm in reply to Blackwitch]

Thanks for your reply. I’m in total despair that anyone or anything will be helpful!

Thanks again

David

[Daisy2701]

If you watch the shopping channel TJC they regularly sell CBD oil on there sometimes at around the £29- £40 price margin. Hope this helps 😀

[Tonynatella]

Hi David

Well I’m very sorry you’re in this difficult but manageable situation.

Although my situation is a little different I have the same problem; can’t take pain killers of any kind due to so many other drugs 10.

There is a way; my pharmacist and Neurosurgeon said the same thing keep narcan on hand and give it a try.

I am pretty relaxed about you trying this having smoked and eaten THC/cbd products daily since college till a year ago and quit after a bad cold.

I don’t want you to lose hope but morphine is a much better pain killer than cbd. That doesn’t mean it won’t work for you. My brother did pretty well with edibles.

I stayed stoned for the last 2 decades and it definitely helped but I finally decided I needed and wanted to be more present.

Like the song says every form of refuge has its price.

Cbd oil is no big deal I would not be afraid to take it with morphine start slow you likely will hardly notice it’s affect . Dose up gradually and keep the morphine. Have the narcan handy but I don’t see how they would affect each other, I’m not qualified but neither is your pharmacist without studies as they told you.

Good luck, give it a go it is much slower acting than opioids or Nsaids.

If you’re retired and can get stoned that would help more . You would need THC either edables or smoke it in a water pipe.

Recent studies say it bad for the heart.