I was getting message after message from my gp online surgery to go for my flu jab. Finally I went expecting the jab and all fine after. But from evening I started feeling so so tired I didn’t want to sit I just wanted to lie down. Had an awful night feeling nauseous. By morning earache and throat ache and headache.I felt awful and wish I had ignored the message! Do many people here get horrible symptoms like this after the jab
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I was fine after Flu vac, had Pneumonia vac 3 weeks later and had a slight headache but otherwise ok.
Most people are fine after flu jab and it’s been forgotten what a serious illness flu can be!Take some pain medication such as paracetamol and you should be fine in a day or so.
I’ve been taking paracetamol since I’ve had it. Obviously helps but wears out after a while
If no better by Monday then might be worth speaking to gp. Could be complete coincidence and you have picked up a bug…..?
If you can actually speak to a doctor. My husband has severe PTSD which a clinician diagnosed him with recently. Her advice was contact the doctor, he tried this for 2 weeks with no luck, The clinician said she would make the report out for the doctor she obviously didn't because she said that the doctor will phone, he hasn't still waiting. It is a good job he isn't suicidal.
That is disgusting and I think there is a lot of evidence out there that GPs are really not doing good enough. Having said which the clinician could phone gp and speak to them rather than relying on a report which gp may or may not read! Still think gp system is simply not acceptable these days. I have had to badger for responses from reports written about me that if waiting for gp response I would still be waiting months down the line.
Thank you for your reply. My husband never goes to the doctor, he is always fit and healthy even though he is 71 years old. He has paid into the system for 55 years and what does he get from it completely nothing. I have tried for him to see someone, I have contacted healthy minds, mind and a few others still waiting. My husband has had a very traumatic event happen to him and he can't get over it and he is really worrying me but nobody wants to know. The NCS stinks they are not fit for purpose. If we had the money he would go private.
Have you tried phoning and asking to speak to practice manager? Might be able to get an appointment that way?? I know the system for appointments is a complete shambles and have spent an hour being held in a queue myself. I am thankful that due to shielding my health is better than been for years otherwise would be a nightmare to get gp attention. Then they wonder why A&E is over run with people 🤦♀️
He has tried this but again they won't put him through. It is an automated phone call so you can't talk to someone human and when my husband phones in the afternoon, he get's all the appointments have gone, he doesn't get the chance to speak and then they put the phone down. Luckily we will be moving house soon we are living in a different area so he will be changing his doctor, hopefully the next one will be more understanding and actually speak to the patient.
That’s really bad but sounds exactly like my GP surgery. I haven’t seen my GP since the start of Covid. Which county do you live in? It seems to vary around the country and that shouldn’t be the case. I hope you’re husband gets the treatment he needs. BW
We live in Manchester, England. I made a complaint about his lack of care yesterday by email and this morning my husband actually got an appointment with his doctor having tried for the past 3 weeks. He is going to get a phone call next week so that hopefully he will be referred to a mental health nurse. I hate complaining but the way that life has become this is what I had to do.
Had my third covid jab and flu jab yesterday at the same time Bit of a sore arm but that goes after a while
But yes if you have any concerns contact your gp for advice
People on here are very lucky. See you doctor HOW! they don't telephone you or contact you and you can never get through on the phone because all the appointments are taken up after 5 minutes. If me, my husband or my son was seriously ill I don't know what we would do.
Yes we’re fortunate up here they use the Ask my Gp app and they contact you depending what it is by email , phone call or they see you in person at the health Center
It is possible that you picked up something before you jab. There are a lot of bad colds and flu going around already, and it isn't uncommon for people to have been incubating something they were exposed to a few days before the flu jab. Have you taken a lateral flow test?
Seems a few people have a reaction to the jab, from mild to serious (such as blood clotting, like my mum-in-law) - even death. They don't warn you, which I think is plain negligence. I never chose to be jabbed with an experimental technology, and I remain a happy, healthy original! Good wishes TimbowPSP
The vaccines are not actually any more risky than many things we do everyday. The information is out there, on both risks and benefits, but you'd have to look at it with an open mind. You're happy to be healthy -- until you're not.
the vaccines may have long-term consequences that we are not prepared to treat. The risks are unknown but the risks of Covid are known.
You have to be ready to throw the dice. But when the owner of the dice and table are so eager for me to play I get nervous. The government has played this game before: agent orange, thalidomide, and other crazy crap most of which the AMA supported. Why do I need to start testing my faith in their good judgment now?
… because it’s a pandemic!
pandemics do not suspend the need for judgment, evidence-based medicine, traditional medical research protocols, or the ability to debate the merits of treatment protocols.
You are correct. These scientific debates took place plus cross border and international consultation . The urgency in a pandemic situation meant that decisions had to be made quickly. SarsCov viruses were not new, neither were mRNA vaccines therefore, decisions using emergency powers could be made to manufacture the vaccines. Research is on going and yes, there have been some adverse side effects. However, the benefits out way the side effects. Many more people would have died. Our decision makers did not have an easy task, they have had the weight of the world on their shoulders.I for one am grateful
This post is about the flu jab which has been around for umpteen years so absolute not experimental.
I apologise for my confusion! I was born in 1942 and as a kid the govt gave us free Vit C (orange juice) AND malt extract to keep healthy. Boost the essential immune system (forgotten these days!), and there were no vaccines. Other vaccines I have observed were for anti-Polio (which vaccine was it?), and thalidomide: both touted by govt as totally SAFE. But the results were DISASTEROUS! I ask: Are we repeating the same ol, same ol, pattern?
Hi, you talk so much sense, some younger people don't realise what the older generation had to live with, with all the many diseases. Some just as bad as Covid?
Sorry I have to disagree with you. Yes thalidomide was appalling and many people are still affected today. BUT it wasn’t a vaccine. Polio was a dreadful disease irradiated in most (but not all countries) due to vaccine. Simple measles could leave children blind or even dead. Rubella can leave a foetus damaged so baby is not only deaf and blind but also suffers ongoing health issues for the rest of their lives. I could go on.My dad was born in 1936 and as a scientist who knows the research to look in to recently has been saying small pox has been eradicated due to vaccines.
Due to my health issues if I caught flu or Covid it is highly likely I would not recover. I am grateful to live in a country where vaccines are readily and freely available.
You may be correct (I haven’t looked at data) that people with neurological conditions should only be vaccinated with caution but the safer you will be with the more people vaccinated.
Thalidomide was a tablet that expectant mothers took for morning sickness. The government and scientists adviced women to take it and said that it was safe to use, well it obviously wasn't due to the deformities. If this was a vaccine it could have been potentially dangerous to have. It doesn't matter what form you have it is still bad. How can people trust a government any government who says it is safe to take. I could go on about other tablets, vaccines. My son had the MMR injection many years ago he was a happy and healthy baby but not long after he had this vaccine he had problems and he is now autistic, the problem is there is no proof of this and the scientist who said this vaccine caused it was silenced. I do believe this vaccine caused the problems my son has now, so there is no way that me, my husband or my son will ever have any sort of vaccine ever.
And in your case maybe I would feel the same. But the scientist who said was ASD was due to MMR was discredited not silenced and he was only one of many many scientists who say is safe. I have worked with children who have ASD (both severe and mild) and am aware of the devastating repercussions. But ASD was around prior to MMR and am also aware of devastating affects of those conditions. Ultimately we can all only as individuals make our own minds up as to what we deem is safe and accurate information.
It does seem strange that children around the time that my son was born there were a lot of cases of Autism and why should a scientist say it if there was no truth in it. This is why I won't have the vaccine,I don't trust them and never will. I have had too many incidents with the NCS a paramedic nearly killed me with a drug that I am allergic too even though she asked me did I have any allergies to drugs But she gave it me anyway. I reported her and all I got was a sorry, she nearly killed me and she got away with it.
ASD is largely genetic and present from pregnancy, it is neurological. Although there are often environmental triggers that make your predisposition more likely to occur. It may be that a vaccine can be that final trigger that makes the outward signs of ASD more prominent, but it doesn't spontaneously occur at 2 or 3 years old. If there are genetic links already established then that could inform your choices about all sorts of possible environmental triggers (diet, vaccines, parenting, stress within the household etc) but ultimately it's impossible to know before hand. I say this to reassure you that whether or not you vaccinated your child with ASD, they were already on the autistic spectrum so don't feel guilt over the vaccine. There have been more diagnosis because there is more understanding, which is a good thing for supporting people to have better lives. I say that from an academic and personal background. The likelihood of the impact of a disease and the outcome of a vaccine are more certain than the other factors and feel a safer option for most.
You are wrong to say it is genetic and present in pregnancy. No one in the family has ever had it and my pregnancy was perfect apart form having severe morning sickness for 9 months but that didn't cause my son's autism. I know a lot about illnesses and conditions because I have studied them and I have worked with children with these types of conditions. My son was okay until he had his jab at 4 years old, shortly after that he started having problems. I don't blame myself in any way, I blame the lack of knowledge about the MMR vaccination and not having a choice. Similar to the Covid vaccine, luckily I have a choice and I am not having it.
As an autistic developmental psychologist with a background in education I can confirm that autism doesn't randomly develop at age 4. You could also find this in the diagnostic criteria and research papers. When a neurodiverse brain develops that way (in pregnancy) there wouldn't be any difference at all experienced by the pregnant person, it isn't something a mother does or doesn't do or experience, it is simply when development occurs. One doesn't suddenly develop autism. There are different contexts and an individuals strengths and weaknesses which allow difficulties to become more prominent, or coping techniques used, but the neurological condition is classified as a developmental disorder that has and will always be present. Whilst observers may not notice behaviours related to ASD (perhaps because they themselves are this way and see it as typical, or because they aren't trained), they are there.
I think we will agree to differ. I have seen many specialists and they say completely different to you. He had his vaccination before he was 4 years old, he started developing symptoms of autism about 4 years old. He passed all his milestones, sitting up early, crawling, walking and babbling. Even the doctor said how quick he was at doing these things. I remember the day the the doctor told me that he is showing signs of autism and he was 4 years old.
For the sake of anyone that might be offended, autism isn't a disease with symptoms, different behaviours are normal behaviours for autistic people. Not all autistic people have physical delays. Many autistic individuals do not have physical delays and it only becomes apparent when demands increase during later primary school or early secondary for example. It doesn't mean the individual wasn't autistic until that point. The individual themselves still struggle, but others may only notice later when they perceive or directly experience difficulties. Autism is within the way the brain processes, which can become outwardly apparent at different stages at development. Whether or not a qualified psychologist goes through an in-depth assessment and diagnoses autism at 6, 66 or never at all, an individual with autism was always autistic.
Why would people be offended? Ben does have symptoms of autism. I knew before he was assessed that there was something wrong because of his lack of doing things that would be classed as normal, no I am not offending people by saying this. Ben also had a friend who has Asperger's Syndrome just like himself who has symptoms of it. I knew before he spoke to Ben that he had this syndrome because he was similar to my son, but his confidence is a lot better than Ben and he has more life skills than my son. I know a lot about Asperger's Syndrome, autism, adhd, the list goes on. I have studied it for the last 25 years.
They change the flu jab every year it isn't the same strength they change it. It might have been around for ages but the strength hasn't.
Yes I know they fiddle with it each year to hopefully encapsulate the flu virus each year. I know they are working on a standard one time only flu jab but who knows when/if that will come in to fruition.
Some 12 years ago I worked within the NHS so decided on the flu injection, even though I have never had the flu in my entire life. Having had it three years previous with no problems at all. Then suddenly after three years, I had it again, this time I went deaf in one ear and my legs felt like I was walking wearing divers boots. I did go to ENT with regards to my deafness, to be asked had I had the flu jab, because that year the hospital had seen an increase of cases of deafness which they put down as a reaction to the flu jab. Even my own GP, put it down to a sever reaction to the flu jab. While in the ENT department, I spoke with a nurse who had also suffered with the heavy leg syndrome I had, and vowed like myself never to have it again. May I add, that I have listened to many nursing staff and others while waiting for the jab in staff health, saying they where not confident in having the jab as they had heard so many negative things about it, many walked out before even having it. Maybe this is the reason why many nursing/care workers are reluctant to take the flu/covid jabs, simply because they often see the results they can cause.
Hi, I think exactly the same as you, I had the flu jab and I was really ill, for people who say is it covid? no it wasn't it was years ago and I haven't had it since and not everything is covid related. The doctors don't tell people it is a stronger dose because people wouldn't have it. They would be scared of being ill.
Those symptoms would be nothing compared to flu. Did you do a Covid Test?
Reckon I had mild Covid twice, and lived to tell you! Also am fully tested to get into hospital appts. I have brain condition and govt advice was 'Don't get jabbed'. Later they have changed that advice ... why? ... No reason given! (No research?) Can't find any answers, and don't trust the authorities now. Let's say I have 'reservations'. Do your own research - always!
She has already said that it isn't covid. Why do people always say this? not everything is covid related, people can be ill and not be that.
Of course they can but with those symptoms I would test. Only trying to help, sorry you needed to correct me.
I am just sick and tired of people saying everything could be Covid. What would people say if Covid didn't exist?
There would be no need to say anything.
So really we shouldn't be having this conversation then.
Of course there is, because Covid does exist, in 1 in 60 odd people give or take. Most common symptoms being tiredness and headache which is what OP said. For everyone's safety it makes sense to spend 3 minutes doing a lateral flow test before contacting a doctor if her symptoms become worse. It's very common to have mild symptoms after a vaccine, I'm not sure why OP hasn't come across this before but now she knows.
These are very common symptoms and is due to the make-up of the vaccine.Not pleasant though. I got a bad headache, but my mum had a mini bout of 'flu.
Feeling illish after a flu jab is not unusual but does not happen all the time even if you had a reaction doesn't mean it will be the same next year . I have only had one severe reaction and that was the year of the bird flu when the injection was different. Been having flu jabs now since 1992. Take some paracetamol should releive the symptoms if they are mild.
I had the flu jab on Wednesday and have similar symptoms to you- not pleasant, but the actual flu would be considerably worse. I think the best way to think of it is that we are so fortunate to get it. It saves lives.
My sister gets the flu shot every year and every year she swears it gives her the flu …. Was it a live virus or dead virus shot?
It is not a live virus
Oh you don’t have the option between the live virus or dead virus.
The flu vaccine is not a live virus.Sometimes your body’s immune response reacts to the substance being injected which can result in feeling a bit unwell for a few days. This is a normal reaction.
Live attenuated influenza vaccine (LAIV) is a type of influenza vaccine in the form of a nasal spray that is recommended for the prevention of influenza. Im not allowed to have this flu vaccine due to bad immune system .
Hi, I had the flu jab and the pneumonia one at the same time, apart from a sore arm had no side effects. By the way the flu jab is not a live vaccine so it can't give you flu. There are various ones being used at the moment and some people have had the side effects you describe. Like the covid jabs, someone people have had a re-action some not.
Hi Saeeda1. I used to have the flu jab but I don't anymore due to every year they make it stronger and the last one I had many years ago made me so sick I thought I was dying. My friend who had it last year made her really ill as well and she said that she has to have it due to her health issues but she is scared in case it makes her more ill.xx
Why do you think they increase the strength each year, can you link the data please? They adjust for the most common strain each year because it is different, but they shouldn't be getting increasingly strong. It sounds like there is a different approach this year if this is correct?
2 years ago when I was working my friend that I was working with got the flu jab, she was told before having it that it was a stronger vaccine this time. She had to have it and when she did she wished she hadn't she had to have 2 weeks off work to recover and she was really ill, before having the flu jab she was perfectly okay. She had NO symptoms of a cold or anything before. The exact same thing happened to me the previous year so I haven't had another one.
There is a more potent jab available for people over 65. It produces a higher level of antibodies that wi ll give you increased protection, although I suppose the higher dose could increase the risk of side effects. In the states they ask you whether you want the higher dose if you are eligible. The coverage is the same. I had the high dose and no side effects. I have been getting the flu jab yearly since my 20s when I caught the flu at work in an A+E and couldn't work for 3 weeks. Never had it again.
My husband had the flu shot once and it put him the hospital for 2 days with the flu he was really sick for a while. He said no more shots of any kind for him
Not for me, my first two were Astra Zenecca the booster was Pfizer, no problems with any of them
I’m puzzled by many of these replies. Every vaccination can result in a few days of feeling unwell and you should be told about this verbally and/or be given an explanatory leaflet. The symptoms are generally mild and related the virus eg flu. I’ve had this after every vaccination I recall having.These symptoms bear no resemblance to the full blown virus. For example if you have flu you wouldn’t be able to post on here! Thousands die from flu every year.
Having a reaction for a few days is normal and indicates that it’s working.
Naturally if you have an allergic reaction or your symptoms are severe or worsen, you should call for advice.
All this information is in the leaflet you’re given, or on the NHS web site.
I’m usually very ill after flue vax but this time was exhausted and slept which I was thankful for. Your reaction is your body making antibodies agains the flu virus and should last a very short period. It’s a good reaction.
We watched as Italy were overwhelmed with cases of Covid19. There was no cure, only symptoms were being treated and medication and equipment were becoming scarce. The bodies were piled up in hospital tents and people were dying exponentially at home. These people were relying on innate immunity however, the virus overwhelmed natural immunity and people died from all age groups and gender.
Unless scientists could come up with something to help our immune systems, people would continue to die. Moreover, medical and nursing personnel were dying, our sources of knowledge and practical care were being seriously threatened.
Our world has changed, that’s what has happened! Moreover, the new viruses are hitting society quicker than scientists can respond. Whether Flu, Covid19 or other SARS viruses , scientists are working around the clock to provide us with the means to fight the viruses and boost our immune systems.
Therefore to answer your question “ what happens to the poor natural immune system “? We won’t need it, we will all be dead.
Perhaps you should report the symptoms on the yellow card scheme or MHRA.This type of information is important.
I had flu and Moderna booster a few days ago without any problems.
Hi! I had a bad reaction to my flu jab this year. I had a really painful arm and it spread up to my shoulder, the top of my back, my neck to my left ear. I also had a sore throat. I’ve never reacted like that before. It wouldn’t put me off having it again though. I’ve only had flu once and it was horrendous! ☹️
Hi, I agree with you, I think there was something in the jab that messed with his brain, just like the covid jab messes with peoples brains. Bumbling Buffoon Boris said that 1 jab would be all that people needed to be fully protected, then it was 2, then the booster jab when will it end? what is it doing to people's bodies in the long term nobody knows. It is strange though when the government said that if there were any bad side effects there will be no compensation. Even they don't believe in it.
Aww thank you, I will listen to him. Every time I go out the amount of people who wear face masks is ridiculous. I personally don't because I am not being told what to do, plus how can a bit of paper protect you from anything? when I pass people the fear in their eyes is absolutely stupid as though I am contagious, people shaking their heads at me. So many people are brainwashed WHY? how many more jabs do people want. We have to live with this just like the flu and the common cold. 1 person has died from Omnicron or whatever it is called and they have Plan B because of this, it is farcical. x
Aww thank you, you too are a breath of fresh air. I wish more people were like us. I can't understand that when people get the vaccination they can still get it, they think that because they have been jabbed they can't get it. Why do people put themselves though it when it doesn't make any difference whatsoever. If having the vaccine became mandatory then they would have to lock me up because there is NO way that I am having this untested, unreliable jab inside my body. I remember years ago when pregnant women with morning sickness was given the thalidomide drug and look what happened there. I will never trust this government EVER. x
Being vaccinated makes a huge difference, yes we can still get it but the symptoms and risk of hospitalisation are greatly reduced.A friend is an ITU nurse and all the covid patients they currently have in are unvaccinated !
I know people who have been vaccinated and still died. I have heard they are thinking of another lockdown the first week of January. So all these people who have been vaccinated and done as they are told, like we don't have a mind of our own, still have to be locked up. So what has actually changed, NOTHING at all. People can still die and we are probably having another lock down.
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