Pain taking over

[MBC_to_much_pain]

Hi, I am a newbie. My main question is, with all the people suffering in pain, what's up with these so called new laws being passed making the doctors cutting back or weaning you off your meldications completely. I'm in so much pain, I don't know where to turn to.

[X01WOOG]

Where do you live, what country??

[MBC_to_much_pain in reply to X01WOOG]

I live in the USA, upstate NY, Syracuse area.

[SassyZee]

Hi, I take it you live in the USA. For most part there doing this due to the drug abusers. Or heroine addicts , it's considered to be a opiate so when they overdose it makes all opiates look bad for abuse as well. And there are abusers of pain medication. If there wasn't pain medication pill mills we who really suffer are getting punished for their actions. They want all pills to be abuse proof so people can't crush and snort them. See people who are in pain just gets pain relief where the junkies get a buzz. I just changed pain dr. Cause my old one took me off oxymorphone put me on opana. I've got gastroparesis which unable to digest those properly. I went through severe withdrawal almost had a stroke. I left their my new dr. Put me on 10mg oxymorphone to start me with. They usually write for opana and allow generic substitute. But she wrote mine for oxymorphone so I wouldn't need a PA. She took into consideration my stomach disorder. I also survivor stomach cancer.

[MBC_to_much_pain]

I live in the USA, upstate NY, Syracuse area.

[MBC_to_much_pain in reply to MBC_to_much_pain]

Sorry, wrong reply, I was replying to another post. I can't even believe that they took you off cold turkey like that and had a stroke. Kinda sounds like a lawsuit to me, but then again I'm not a lawyer, so I wouldn't know for sure. My problems seem minimal compared to yours, stomach cancer,omg, you poor thing, my heart hurts for you. Where are you from? MBC

[SassyZee in reply to MBC_to_much_pain]

HI I'm in Tennessee area, they say more people get pain meds here than any other state. I just wish there was a better system of weeding out the people who really don't need the pain meds. cause it really causes a problem for the people who really needs them just to make it through the day.

[johnsmith]

Pain medications can in the long run make things worse. You have pain for a reason. taking pain medication will hide the reason for the pain.

See a McTimony chiropractor. They may be able to give you a second opinion as to the need for worry or not. Pain killers can mask cancer and other nasty things and prevent proper medical investigations being carried out.

Hope this helps.

[SassyZee in reply to johnsmith]

Johnsmith, with most people I believe well myself I know what is physically wrong with me, an i've had over 36 surgeries in my life time. So many to try an help my pain an some just made it worse. The worst pill out there that mask pain is suboxone. That pill mask all pain you never know when your hurt! I believe it should be taken off the market, cause if I had been on it when i had my recent wreck, I wouldn't of know that I had new injuries or new pain areas.

[johnsmith in reply to SassyZee]

That is the nature of the beast. This is why investigation is so important. Some therapies will make the situation worse. Some therapies will improve the situation. There are so many possible causes for a symptom that it can be very difficult to determine what is the right treatment approach. Sometimes it is pure luck that you find the right treatment very early on in your investigation.

My approach is to look at the control of muscle behaviour. It will not cure, but it helps prevent things getting too badly out of hand. I look at the body as an engineering system with a variety of feedback loops. I also consider the brain works together with the spinal reflexes to produce muscle control and posture.

I look at how can I reduce stress below the engineering system's stress breakdown point. Function with stress below the stress breakdown point and things can be reasonable. Put the system above the stress breakdown point and the engineering system falls apart.

The ways things interact can be very complex. One needs tools and time to study and follow the complexities. One needs input from other people to point out the things you cannot see in yourself.

It does not matter what is physically wrong what matters is how to develop the skills to make the best of what is physically wrong. It is the developing of the tools to help the patient investigate themselves that the medical profession lacks.

[SassyZee in reply to johnsmith]

Johnsmith that's is true but finding the right Dr. To help you instead of trying to shove pills down your throat. My primary physician was always shoving meds down my throat. I would tell him I had some side effects that caused me additional pain. My neurologist told well advised me to stop the meds. I had talked to my PC about the issues prior to stopping the meds. He didn't want to believe me so I did what was best for me.

[johnsmith in reply to SassyZee]

I gather you are in the States. I am familiar with the UK medical scene.

[SassyZee in reply to johnsmith]

Yes I'm in the USA. I've had to stop several medications due to side effects I wasn't willing to live with.

[Ilovemychildren1]

Don't go down opiods road you will end up on the street addicted to heroin

[PFKAAde in reply to Ilovemychildren1]

Sorry but that's a massive sweeping statement. If you take opiates for pain relief, and only pain relief, the chances are you won't get addicted. You will become physically dependent, no doubt, but that's nowhere near the same as being addicted.

Injecting street heroin and taking pain relief are not the same thing. One gets you off your face, the other reduces the pain you are in to some extent.

I'm not saying opiates are always the answer, but saying you will get addicted to heroin is simply not true in the vast majority of cases and anyone reading this having just been prescribed them would be possibly needlessly concerned.

[Ilovemychildren1 in reply to PFKAAde]

I was just warning people of the dangers it's a dangerous thing

[PFKAAde in reply to Ilovemychildren1]

I know and I was just pointing out that as much as some folk can get addicted the vast majority don't - if they're using them for what, and how they were prescribed.

All drugs have side-effects, and lots of drugs are difficult to wean off, and believe me I've had to do it a few times. Corticosteroids are a case in point and Pregabalin has given me all sorts of problems and taken over a year to wean off, so far.

Morphine for me has been no worse and given me greater benefit also. And also side-effects, I'm not claiming it is without its own negatives.

🙂

[Ilovemychildren1 in reply to PFKAAde]

I'm on pregabilin and dhydracoadine

[PFKAAde in reply to Ilovemychildren1]

You probably won't be as unlucky but for me if I forget a dose of Pregabalin I feel truly awful, like a bad case of flu. Hence it taking me over a year to get off - slowly.

I started on dihydrocodeine before I was switched to morphine as there is a limit to how much dihydrocodeine they can prescribe, whereas with morphine it's variable.

Personally I found dihydrocodeine more likely to be addictive than morphine, but again we are all different.

Ade

[Ilovemychildren1 in reply to PFKAAde]

I hope everything will be ok with you let me know how you get on 👍🏻

[SassyZee in reply to Ilovemychildren1]

Ilovemychildren1, not everyone who is on pain medications abuse it or goes to herion! Myself for one, I don't over take my medication, my pill count is always right, I don't buy extra. I'd like to think I'm not the only person out there who uses there medication properly without abusing them.

[Ilovemychildren1 in reply to SassyZee]

Good on you some people are not as strong

[Steve49]

Hi. I live in the UK - to date I have had a Stroke/Brain Hemorrhage/Brain Opps/Steriotactic Radiation Surgery & Much Much More. My meds are all at maximum & I'm unable to take any stronger ones (OxyContin)

Deep Brain Stimulation has also been mentioned but the Health Svs won't fund it (Great) As my current medications aren't touching the pain I have opened my mind to alternatives i.e.

Looking at where & when the pain starts to included "strategies"

The next one what alternative therapys are avalible.

Then I looked at what training was avalible within other therapies.

My most recent find was a "CBT Vaporiser" this without doubt is one off my biggest finds.

To date I'm still looking for better things & I will do this forever & ever.

I hope that you can get further help to make things much better for you !!!

Steve.