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There is only 1 mental health illness

RAB888
RAB888

There is only 1 mental health illness... And that can be a thing of the past when you know the only root cause... Generally everyone on earth is born with innate mental health and wellbeing.

It's only by a simple misunderstanding that this becomes lost 🙏🏽🙂

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I am sorry I have to disagree with that. There are lots of different kinds of mental health problems, some of which can be genetic and others learned behaviour. Many are a mixture of both, the famous nature verses nurture debate. I wouldn't call suffering from a mental health condition 'A simple misunderstanding' either. This is simplifying it far too much and is simply not true. x

Totally agree with you hypercat. Pam

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to hypercat54

Perhaps in simplicity lies the answer to all complexity.

We are all born thinking creatures, and this is where our problems begin.

When you understand what the misunderstanding is, then maybe you could see that all stems from one cause...

With over 430 types of therapy and medication prescribed in increasing amounts, why is there increased numbers of people suffering?

All modern therapy is based on Freudian analysis.

hypercat54
hypercat54 in reply to RAB888

Well maybe you could tell me what my parents misunderstanding was from all the emotional abuse which I get in childhood leading to lifelong depression?

Freud was the the first proper psychologist but we have moved on way past that now, unless you believe all 'hysteria' in women is caused by the womb too. I have also read Freud.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to hypercat54

When people are living in a world of insecurity they have so much thinking in the moment that they respond with all types of insecure behaviour. A deeper understanding of where the human experience comes from leads to a shift in consciousness where a more joyful experience of life can begin.

There is a movie called 'the shack' which shows that forgiveness is paramount to overcoming depression etc.

I've been bullied when I was young, my parents split when I was 5 years old. I never had a proper mother/son relationship. I've had anxiety, depression etc all my life until I came across this simple understanding that changed my life

hypercat54
hypercat54 in reply to RAB888

I assume you don't have depression and/or anxiety now then?

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to hypercat54

Correct

I disagree.

There are many different types with some many different signposts. I know in my case there are about three pathways, including medical and mental, Both can be split up in various systems, Mental health can also be caused by genetic, learned and caused by.

lack of chemicals in the brain.

Cause and affect needs to be taken into consideration, that from an early age can be problematic as well. There are also mental health problems caused by loss or cruelty.

Sweeping statements are not really helpful when talking about the Brain and some disabilities that can attack the Brain

BOB

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to borderriever

If a person always looks for the negative, they'll never see the positive

borderriever
borderriever in reply to RAB888

On many occasions looking for the positive after mental health conditions can need to be learned and confirmed possibly again. and again. It all depends on cause and effect.

We all here learn from others experiences, given that encouragement we hope to be able to move on with our lives.

Diversions help and hopefully gaining confidence once more with those around us can help us take control of our lives once more.

We are all different, sameness, helps us confirm and control our needs. Sometimes it can take a long time to recover we all need to be brave and move on

BOB

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to borderriever

Here's the thing...

Change can happen in a heartbeat, I've seen it. It doesn't need to take years to recover, despite common beliefs. Once people can learn where their feelings come from it can be life changing

borderriever
borderriever in reply to RAB888

Consider what you are saying, your attitude does not help any sufferer on this site or in the general public.

In this day and age live is fast and complex, not only that it was found many years ago mental health issues are complex and sprout from different unrelated things.

Even during Victorian times, differences were identified and they tried to treat. However the treatments were cruel and violent, and most treatments just made matters worse, and all different conditions were treated in the same way as all.

Even in the 50/60 treatment was all encompassing and people remained in hospital for years.

It has been not long ago that sufferers conditions were investigated and treatment was standardized for different types of Mental Illness. ( Floyd). and the patient was more than not treated as an Out Patient, so they would remain in Society as they recovered. Now they are saying medications may not be needed and sometimes this may be the best way forward with a course of CBT.. The idea now many people will recover, or possibly have problems every now and then. It is rare a patient will be ill over a long extended period.

BOB

RAB, I couldn’t disagree with you more. I hope you stay on the site long enough to understand that the more you learn, the less you know. You may have been able to figure out the root cause of your “simple misunderstanding” which is great for you, but it’s very presumptuous of you to think everyone is like you and that everyone’s issue is the same as yours and therefore, there is only one type of mental illness. I don’t say this to upset you, it’s just that there is WAY more to mental illness than what you think. If it were as simple as you think, the problem to mental illness would have already been solved. And all modern therapy is not based on Freud. That is a false statement.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to AuntBee

It's only more complicated because of the misunderstanding of where the human experience comes from. There is a simpler and more logical answer to the problems.

Unfortunately modern man likes to over complicate it by looking at the symptoms and behaviour, rather than the cause.

There is a way to heal naturally without years of therapy/counselling and medication. I've seen it and experienced it myself. Others can too.

Also big drug companies like to make huge profits, which keeps the cycle going.

It's all about the power of belief.

Check out Dr. Bruce Lipton.

ncrbrts
ncrbrts in reply to RAB888

I tried to check out Dr Lipton. Run a Google search and there is hundreds of information - mostly advertising for his many books/videos/seminars. Run a search on google scholar or Suprimo, as I did, there are no peer reviewed articles published in any academic journal. Surely the world of psychology would be celebrating this breakthrough? Or at least Dr Lipton would submit his papers for critical analysis? I'm curious.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to ncrbrts

I guess the gigantic pharmaceutical companies are reluctant for this information to be widespread knowledge.

And the majority of people are unaware of where their feelings and experience of life come from so it's easily dismissed.

There are videos on YouTube too

ncrbrts
ncrbrts in reply to RAB888

A YouTube video is not the robust evidence I would consult before making a decision on an intervention. And the argument about blocking by big pharma is flawed slightly when you consider the wealth of research being undertaken and written about regarding other medication free interventions such as CBT or DBT. Why these and not Dr Lipton's 'silver bullet'?

I think if it has worked for you then that is really great. It's dangerous, though, to regard it as a panacea and to preach as such to vulnerable people - particularly when there is a cost involved. All the best, but I think I'll wait for further research to be done before looking at this again.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to ncrbrts

Hey, no worries, I'm just trying to help people and wake them up to the fact that they don't have to suffer all their lives if only they gained an understanding of where their feelings come from. Simple logic points to the one root cause of most problems

ncrbrts
ncrbrts in reply to RAB888

It only appears simple because the theory has negated the plurality of minds. It assumes that minds are the same and can therefore be fixed using a singular, unified method. I counter that minds are infinitely more complex. To paraphrase Wittgenstein, the mind is irreducible and uncertain.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to ncrbrts

We are all one

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

I know where my experiences come from

Lack of nurturing growing up with emotional Abuse, my husband dieing in bed beside me and having to preform cpr on him

Seeing my sister dead after being in a morgue for 9 days with no family contact.

So PTSD, anxiety depression

There is it....

Now my next question is our soldiers with PTSD how would you like them to quickly forget their traumas and move on?

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

Can I ask you a question?

Does the past really exist, or is it just a memory carried through time?

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

I believe my past exists

I can show you my sisters death certificate

And a stack of medical records from my husbands illness.

I can't show you my childhood scars. So you may believe they are not there. But I know how they've effected my life and the lives of my siblings in a negative way.

Don't you have a past? What did you do yesterday? That's the past.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

I'm not saying that the past didn't exist. All I am saying is that the past no longer exists now.

living with the sad memories from the past is what is causing the suffering

Holding on to the old will never allow you to fully enjoy the new

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

Ok yes I def agree with that. But, it depends on the depth of the scar how long it takes to conquer. I am in EMDR therapy now. The goal is to take the power away from those traumatic experiences and it is working.

All of us here are working hard to overcome our illnesses or we wouldn't be here. I appreciate you taking the time to explain your thought a little clearer. Just writing one line didn't get your point across.

I am in the beginning phases of spiritual growth. I don't think we can mention that stuff on the forum. However I use yoga and meditation in addition to practicing the teachings.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

If that therapy is going to help you overcome whatever your challenges are then that's great. But there are many people who go from one type of therapy to another, struggling for many years, if not their whole life, when just gaining an understanding of where the human experience comes from and the nature of our thinking mind can help people in a fraction of the time.

I've seen it in many others and experienced it myself.

It's why I know try to teach others the missing link that we are all searching for.

When you know the truth you see and hear it everywhere...

I've written a lot of truth on these replies... It's upto every individual to see, hear and feel it themselves

It can set you free...🙏🏽🤗

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

Thank you for explaining. I appreciate your time. I do understand your perspective now after our conversations.

We can't judge others unless we've walked in their shoes. I've only been part of this group for approximately two weeks. What I see is people helping people by sharing experiences etc.

I thank you for sharing yours.

Namaste

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

I'm not judging. I'm just sharing a new found knowledge that points to the true nature behind the human experience which is life changing once you truly understand it

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

RAB888

Where do you thoughts and feeling come from? Is it spirtual? Research studies?

I'm just curious how you came to believe this as truth.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

All our experience comes from a universal spiritual source

Life is not made of broad statements, we need to understand people and their concerns can be complex and not time sensitive, read pinned posts on site also topics, that may help you understand the basic reasons for mental health concerns.

Personally I will leave you to it so you can move on, with an understanding of peoples fears and loss

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to borderriever

Within simplicity lies the answers to all complexities

Our innate psychological mind cannot be broken

Most problems come from a misunderstanding of where the human experience comes from

I have to disagree Rab. There are many reasons for a mental health condition be it environmental, nature vs nurture, traumatic events. That’s not down to misunderstanding that can create chemical and neural changes. So I’m a bit incredulous at the simplicity of your statement. Perhaps you’ve not experienced fear or trauma or the aftermath of a tremendous or tragic loss. I’m a strong person and yet I cannot agree with your reasoning

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Calico93

The human experience does not come from external events or circumstances but from within our own thinking about them

There is nothing simple about that piece of grey matter in our heads. Disagree with you I’m afraid. I thought like you when I was as high as I could possibly go in my psychotic episode. But with what goes up must come down!

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Leaandfrank19

It's complicated because our ego mind makes it so.

We all have Free Will to believe what we want to believe

Dolphin14
Dolphin14 in reply to RAB888

RAB888

I'm sorry I am unable to respond up where you responded about spiritual beliefs.

Yes we do all have Free Will.

Is cancer or Alzheimer's or ALS because of the ego mind? Can there possibly be a line drawn at some point.

Does ego complicate paralysis. Because I know people with the above medical conditions that would love to be free of disease.

I think mental illness is so disrespected and misunderstood because our disease is inside not visible to the world.

I appreciate your beliefs. I just wish you would offer more information. You are being a little vague. I would love to learn from your thoughts if you could express them clearer.

Thank you

kenster1
kenster1 in reply to Dolphin14

couldn't have put it better if I tried.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to Dolphin14

Disease means dis-ease, when the body and spirit are 'not at ease', or out of balance. This can happen when our minds have too many contaminated personal thoughts.

I find this post very disrespectful, you clearly have a very narrow perception of mental health, you are extremely ignorant to think that all mental health is the same and that it can be solved so easily.

I suggest you take some time to educate yourself on the many forms of mental health and how they affect people.

RAB888
RAB888 in reply to harv_singh

I'm sorry you feel that way. And you are free to believe whatever you wish.

After suffering with a few mental health issues myself I went on a journey to seek understanding.

And I started to wake up to a misunderstanding that I was living in

You may want to start believing something different

youtu.be/B1qNhUIbCmo

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