consent at 16years ASD by CHAMS, shame on you.

[Sharon201]

I was very shocked to see a CHAMS worker trying very hard to get my very autistic daughter at the age of 15 years to sign a consent form. My daughter wished for her mum and herself to sign consent forms, this was written down by the worker yet she still tried to get my daughter do away with the parents signature, tried various story telling, pressurising her to sign, in the end my daughter was getting fed up. we left. on the second visit the worker did everything she could to get my daughter on her own, suggest I did not come into the room, suggested to my daughter for me to leave the room, thank goodness my daughter said she wanted me to stay, because on the table was a new consent form. I totally distrust the CHAMS worker and we do not see them. My daughter is doing fine and if there are any issues I would seek the appropriate service.

[Hidden]

Hi Sharon. Sounds like awful tactics to me...

I would make a complaint about it..

Good wishes to you ..

X🌺🌺

[Sharon201 in reply to Hidden]

yes I am making an official complaint. I think that is the only way to safe guard my daughter.

[Hidden in reply to Sharon201]

Oh good, I would want to know why they feel that is in her best interests...

I wish you well with that xx

[Sharon201 in reply to Hidden]

Yes , that is a very good point, why would that be in her best interest, she sat at the meeting and was clearly confused. I talk with the information Commission office today and they suggested making a complaint and sending them all the replies and outcome of this as they are not happy to hear what I told them.

[Hidden in reply to Sharon201]

Yes. At the end of the day it’s what is in her best interests, and if she is confused and not able to speak up for herself or explain things then......I would have thought to suggest a mental,health advocate would be a better option than asking her to sign that..an advocate could work with both you and her...if they feel something impartial is required..just thinking out loud,

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I would make some notes soon...if your anything like me I can forget some things at times...and then think ‘oh I forgot to put that’ while its all fresh in your mind ...

Sending good wishes to you and your daughter 🌺🌹🌺🌹 x

[Hidden]

Sharon, When does your Daughter reach sixteen ??

BOB

[Sharon201 in reply to Hidden]

She is now 16 years and being asked if I have my daughters consent to speak for her, all very unpleasant.

[Hidden in reply to Sharon201]

If you are in the UK, She begins to be able to make Her own Health decisions, However if your Daughter MAY give you permission to act on Her behalf.

So in some way you may need Lasting Power of Attorney. Health and Mental Health, however you need to check that out on Government sites, I hope personally I may be wrong, however what you are been subjected to here. Court of Protection may also come into this if you need to make decisions in the Patients interests. You could check the Mental Capacity Act Code of Practice.You also need to have words with the hospital, the person with the forms, I have checked and I cannot find the age. It sounds like they are treating your daughter as an adult, being responsible for her own health needs. Sixteen sounds familiar

BOB

[hypercat54]

Consent form for what? This all sounds very underhand to me. x

[Sharon201 in reply to hypercat54]

consent to do away with parent consent.

[hypercat54]

Oh. I would go over their head and speak to their manager to ask what's going on. I thought they had to have parental consent for under 18's. x

[Hidden in reply to hypercat54]

Sad to say, when it comes to an Adult who has problems Mentally, Health they now seem to cross their t:s and dot their Is. Health becomes full of good intents and Political Correctness. all very sad and problematic

BOB

[spzgirl51]

Dear Sharon201

I understand you want to protect your daughter from harm. So do they. They are trained to put the needs of the young person first. They will do their best to help and support your daughter. They are not against you in any way. Perhaps they believe you daughter would feel freer to express her feeling if she talked alone? Perhaps you could talk to them after they have spoken to her?

I know you would not want you daughter to feel alone or afraid but please bear in mind they are expertly trained to put young people at their ease? The last thing they want to do is harm children? Hopefully , they would treat her with kindness and sensitivity whether you accompany her or not? But this would in no way deminish you love and care for her.

You have spent years fighting to keep her safe. That is a hard habit to relax.

I have a son who had problems with anxiety at a young age. I understand how arduous the process can be.

Please take care and try not to worry. Something unexpected and good may come of these meeting for both of you? You never know.

Best wishes x

[Sharon201 in reply to spzgirl51]

My daughter usually goes in to the meetings by herself, sometimes I am asked to go in for 10 minutes or so, as I belief it is important for her to speak to somebody other than her mother, however what happened regarding consent in that meeting was not professional.