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Dr Connie Jeon ( and Celery Juice)

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I’m coming under pressure from Number Two Son to try celery juice as a “cure”. He has a friend who was an excellent gymnast, hoping for the Olympics. Injury put paid to that.

In recent years her eczema has become so bad she had to give up her job and became housebound. Doctors have been no help.

She tried celery juice ( which seems to be in vogue but she took the idea from Dr Connie Jeon’s “Lupus Rebel” website). For her, it has pretty much cured the excema and she’s back to her old life. Normally son wouldn’t mention anything like this, but seeing the change in his friend, very much wants me to try.

Has anyone else tried celery juice? A lot of the other advice is about shedding belly fat with easy tricks the doctors don’t want you to know.

I am, of course very sceptical and, while I have no problems with the celery, buying a juicer is not cheap!

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PMRpro profile image
PMRpro

Why didn't No 2 son do the needful for xmas if he's so keen?

Have you got a blender?

food52.com/blog/9933-how-to...

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Lupiknits in reply to PMRpro

He’s only just come across the idea. I have a nutribullet so could use the sieve method. Darn it, why is it juice only?

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PMRpro in reply to Lupiknits

One is left to ask - taking the goodness out removing the fibre if you ask me. Not that I'd try it - if there is one taste I detest it is celery!!!!!

Other than that it won't have much in the way of side effects you'd think!

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Barnclown in reply to Lupiknits

Nutribullet + sieve method: Good Idea! Celery is SO DELICIOUS.....given half a chance, i’d at least give celery jiuice a try via this method....

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Shorthouse in reply to Lupiknits

Nutribullet is better you get the fibre too (surely)I use mine daily to get at least 5 of daily f &v x

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whisperit

It's a hard one, isn't it? We are all so desperate to be well and there are so many people on the internet promising that if only we dedicate ourselves to drinking celery juice, going gluten free, or eating coal, then in just a few months we will be free. I'm as torn as anyone and often thinkk, "Why not give it a try?"Then I look at what these people claim is the biology behind their claims and I end up thinking, "This is total rubbish". The celery juice one seems especially ridiculous.

But of course, just because the explanation is nonsense doesn't mean the treatment doesn't work!

I sometimes think if people were a bit more straightforward and just said, "I have no idea why eating alpaca dung makes me feel great, but it works" then I'd be a whole lot more likely to try it. As soon as they start making up stiff about "toxins" it's like a red flag that says "Warning - overselling in progress".

Anyhoo. Maybe it would be worth getting a juicer if you like making your own juices? Then if the celery doesn't do the trick, you won't have wasted your money. x

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Lupiknits in reply to whisperit

*sigh* I don’t care for juices. My nutribullet smashes up lots of yummy summer fruit, to which I add powdered peanut butter and nectar (plain yoghurt in common parlance) and can then get the benefits of everything the fruit contains while being able to swallow it down too.

This is the only time I’ve had any family pressure, and no amount of me saying but, but, but is taken on board. Well, he leaves for distant lands in a few days, so I’ll carry on “thinking about it”

Yes, thinking about how little regard I have for a celery juice pusher who says that only those wanting to be well, get well. The cruelty of such casual remarks makes me feel abnormally violent.

OK I have been presented with two whole heads of celery. They will go in the nutribullet and in an act of rebellion, because I don’t want to get well, I’ll have the fibre, too.

💩

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whisperit in reply to Lupiknits

We are all in the same, very vulnerable, boat, I think, really, with these claims. If someone has hit on a diet, or a strange habit that has cured them of a horrible disease, then surely any decent, ethical, person would want to give away every detail of this cure freely and joyfully?

And with honesty - if they don't know why it worked, then they should say so. Instead, we get these people inventing bizarre and elaborate stories about "acidifying your cells" or "cluster nutrients" , and then telling us we can only access their cure if we buy their expensive supplements, books and videos.

It's hard enough to trust my rheumy. But these guys start off well behind the starting line. x

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Lupiknits in reply to whisperit

Oh yes, this Dr Connie asks for money for full details of her cures. Celery juice is a freebie.

The “Dr” seems to be a PhD but not a licensed medic ( not that we think much of them). She reels off the micronutrients very very fast, but they are hardly exclusive to celery.

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overnighthearingloss in reply to Lupiknits

The reason that juicing is sometimes recommended over and above blending ( ie nutribullet) is precisely because you can potentially take more in juice form than with the fibre.

Fibre obviously has a part to play in the diet as it feeds your microbiome but for getting high doses of nutrients into the body quickly in an easily absorbable form juicing can be better.

If you are working with veg you can therefore ingest much more nutrient via juicing. That's why the Gerson diet concentrates on up to 13 juices a day.

But you are not setting out on the Gerson diet. Therefore if you are just looking for vegetable or indeed celery juicing then juicing is the preferred method.

Fruit on the other hand is usually best consumed with its fibre as due to its glucose content it ends up sweeter and can cause spikes in blood sugar which can be dangerous for diabetics.

But in order to make a juice more palatable it is often recommended to add a green apple until the taste buds allow for it to be drunk without.

Juicing can be ideal for people who don't eat too many veggies, to get the nutrients they provide without eating a plate of food that seems alien to them.

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Lulutopical

Lupiknits,

I swear by celery. Maybe not a cure, but certainly a help. I juice celery, carrot, beetroot and ginger and have it first thing upon waking. I feel it helps with inflammation. I don't think I could face the taste of straight celery juice though!

I always found celery helpful for balancing out things if I had had too much sugar, and maybe that is why it helps with autoimmune things? I have seen that there are some studies now with inhibiting glucose to treat lupus as our cells use glucose to make anti nuclear antibodies. Well, that was my lay person understanding of it in any case!

I think it can't hurt to try juicing for a few weeks and see if you have an improvement.

Or do the nutribullet thing and just down the whole thing, including the fibre?

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miccika1

1. Cellery is known for increasing sun sensitivity, so be careful to avoid sun if you try to eat a lot of it.

2. Fibre is not always good as it feeds gut bacteria so depending if your good or bad bacteria likes to eat cellery fibre it might be good or bad

3. Regarding trying random stuff my opinion is that if it is not going to bankrupt you and it looks safe, why not try? Expensive cure-all supplements would probably not be in this category for me 😀. Cellery is not expensive but i would be careful eating it because it increases sun sensitivity. Some people have cellery on a "do not eat" list for lupus. You can check on google...

Here is one except " Psoralens in sunlight - Psoralens are chemicals which can cause toxic effects when exposed to sunlight. Since many lupus patients already suffer from light sensitivity, it’s a good idea to avoid excess amounts of foods with light-sensitive psoralens that can increase the risk of photosensitivity. Lupus flare-ups have been reported after the ingestion of large amounts of foods containing psoralens such as celery, celery salt, parsnips, parsley, coriander and figs. "

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Lupiknits in reply to miccika1

Thanks, I did see that it increases sunlight sensitivity and that you should avoid it if you are allergic to silver birch (I have a hard time in tree pollen season but I don’t know which might be the cause)

As you say, celery is not exactly expensive, so it may be worth a try. The young lady relayed to try for 4 weeks, but not less than 2 to see what happens.

Cann profile image
Cann in reply to Lupiknits

Yes, I am allergic to celery. It also lowers the blood pressure, so I have to be careful as there is no way to raise blood pressure, I was told by a nurse.

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overnighthearingloss in reply to Cann

But possibly useful if you want a way to come off blood pressure meds???

I had forgotten the lowering blood pressure stuff.

And also just remembered that liquorice supposedly raises blood pressure. If low bp is an issue. I know it has for me in the past when i was drinking a herbal tea for insomnia which i then realised contained liquorice.

Lupiknits profile image
Lupiknits in reply to overnighthearingloss

Oops I have low BP. Better keep and eye on that. Thanks.

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Cann in reply to overnighthearingloss

Yes, I suggested to my husband with high blood pressure, but he can't take celery either. My blood pressure gradually returned to normal - I use herbs and cook all my own food, so something worked, but I couldn't take liquorice for some reason.

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overnighthearingloss in reply to Cann

Regular liquorice raises Bp. I have read however that DGL liquorice can lower Bp. But I have never tried dgl liquorice myself to know if it works with me.

Cann profile image
Cann in reply to overnighthearingloss

I tend to stick to the food rather than supplementation as a kinesiologist stated and I know she is right that my body doesn't know what to do with supplements and another person a rep for viridian also stated that my body wants to do it with food. He was very knowledgeable and trying to sell his supplements, so I know he was being honest with me.

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overnighthearingloss in reply to Cann

I think that is always preferable. But I have only recently become aware of how much difference there is in nutritional quality of organic foods over most other products.

It seems amazing to me that I really was totally unaware of this. But I guess I am not alone in that.

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Cann in reply to overnighthearingloss

No, you certainly aren't alone. We educate ourselves when we have to for survival!

eekt profile image
eekt

Celery juice features on Gwyneth Paltrow's GOOP website - net worth about £140million.

The author of the celery post is introduced thus: 'the voice of a divine force called Spirit guides him to identify the roots of his patients’ hard-to-diagnose illnesses'

goop.com/wellness/spiritual...

CNN says same as PMRPro:

"Juicing celery (and any other vegetable) strips away the beneficial fiber that helps you feel fuller longer, improves intestinal health and feeds the health bacteria in your gut,"

...but if I had a Nutribullet, I'd stick some in. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. xxx

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Lupiknits

Hmm, yes, this website has a lot about divine forces and such. There’s also a YouTube video about how to melt away pounds of belly fat. It starts with lemon, avocado and cucumber, then for a special price “today only” $ xx

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AgedCrone

Well, if you can stomach it anything Legal is worth a try isn't it?

I wouldn't think celery could react with any meds you are taking, but run it past your pharmacist......in case you start growing green curly hair!

MrsMouseSJ profile image
MrsMouseSJ

I guess you wouldn't be considering it if it weren't for the insistent urgings from your son? Family pressure to try 'miracle cures' can be difficult to deal with. Well, if you can afford a blender/juicer, then I guess you have nothing to lose by trying it. Who knows?? And you will - if nothing else - then be able to speak to your son without the 'celery juice elephant' wafting indelicately in the corner.

I had a close family member who kept sending me recipes with turmeric. They were very, very persistent and eventually started talking at length on the phone about it, too. Eventually I did try it, just to stop the 'pestering' - only to discover that turmeric really interracts with Warfarin and, for me, not in a predictable way. So that was that!

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Lupiknits in reply to MrsMouseSJ

You’ve hit the jackpot! Thank you, because this sums up the situation quite well.

This is the very first ever family insistence that something will help ( no cure mentioned) . To be fair, son was really amazed at what celery juice appeared to have done for his long time friend ( though I’d like something a bit more scientific).

Son is, I suspect, rather nervous at going a long way away for the best part of the year as his older brother is already 8 hrs ahead of GMT, and likely to be there for some years. There’s some unspoken “ what about mum”? going on. Celery may be his comfort blanket.

I’ve started on the celery elephant in the room. It tasted ok to me. Stuff is cheap and I am including the highly minced fibre. A whole head in a nutribullet with a spoonful of orange juice yielded about half a litre of green froth. Very filling.

I’ve been googling celery juice and it appears to belong to the kale/bone broth/coconut/turmeric cycle.

You are a 🏆

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MrsMouseSJ in reply to Lupiknits

That's kind of you to say! I think it's just that I've experienced something similar.

In terms of your son, I think that his motivation is really rather different from that of my own relative. If your son is about to head off on his own for a good length of time he is - as you say - probably pretty nervous, particularly about how you will be. So if you are ok with the taste, him knowing that you are trying the celery juice may indeed be helpful for him - which is a thoughtful thing to do on your part. In my own case, the relative in question simply likes to be 'right'!

Wishing you Happy Juicing, Lupiknits!

Cann profile image
Cann in reply to MrsMouseSJ

Yes, need to be careful with lots of herbs and spices if taking drugs.

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Lupiknits

Thank you Mrs Mouse x

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