Pip help with higher mobility

[gemmahughes1987]

Hi everyone I have a PIP meeting on Wednesday to tey and get higher mobility for a car to help me get around does anyone have any tips to help me.

[Dizzytwo Moderator]

Hi gemma, I'm unsure what you mean by tips to help you get the higher mobility? If your illness has become worse for you all you can do is be honest and tell them how things have changed for you. Good luck hopefully if you meet their criteria for higher mobility you will get what you deserve finger's crossed.

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to Dizzytwo]

I mean how to speak to them I had trouble the first time everything I said she twisted it I am really nervous

[viking in reply to gemmahughes1987]

I suffer with Mental health and walking as I arthritic in my joints and can't walk far, I still only got 10 points and I was struggling on the day with balance and moving about. They was not the case in her eyes all was untrue what she said about mobility and how I was well put together. It was dreadful and I was honest and truthful and still made no difference to my points, I am waiting to go to court disputing all the un -truths she said in her report.

Does anyone have any help with this matter. God ony knows I need it.

[scottish-warrior in reply to gemmahughes1987]

hi gemma, having went through this recently lets me give you some help. i was turned down cause the "health offical" decided i could do more than i can. what i have since found helpful going through the appeal process is although dwp can ask for our medical records they dont have too. so i suggest to contact your gp surgery you have to put this in writing or using email and ask for a copy of your medical records pertaining to when you were diagnosed( these are free for anyone) and take them with you. i would also suggest making a copy you can leave with them. i hope this helps you in some small way i find out nov 6th when i have my phone appeal if these help me but they did say to me i would be easier if they could see my records so heres hoping. fingers crossed for you

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to scottish-warrior]

Thank you I got a text message today saying I will find out in 8 weeks I hope I can get the help I need x

[waylay in reply to scottish-warrior]

They very rarely ask for medical records, in fact. :/

[Dizzytwo Moderator]

I agree AJay, but if the persons illness has become worse for them surely that's what they need to tell them an be honest about it. Not tell them things that will help them just to get the higher rate. I'm not saying this is the case here.

Also let's no forget a lot of people actually lost their mobility higher rate when changing over to pip.

All I'm saying is if you have read the pip criteria and you think you meet it then go for it. Not everyone who gets the higher benefits have the same problems. So I was not sure what kind of info the poster was looking for to help them get a car if that makes sense 😂

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to Dizzytwo]

I have high anxiety and struggle to get my point across, I dont know if the application has changed thats why I asked for tips x

[viking in reply to Dizzytwo]

Yes I agree with you I lost mine and now only get lower mobility even though I got highre on DLA. Mine was horrendous and took 2 hours very intense and I was honelt all the way through and mine was a less than truthful asssessment's report. Its how your illness and mobilty effects you. Just be yourself is all I can say. Good Luck and let us know how it all goes my friend. God bless AMO

[gemmahughes1987]

If I can't get help from pip I'll have to try and get a child minder to take my kids to school. I really hope they help me I dont have people to help me

[CM1EDSUK]

Hi gemmahughes1987 - I'm sorry you suffer with anxiety so much, & no-one on an internet forum can say how to get the higher rate of mobility, as it will all depend on how your disability affects you.

The following website is about applying for PIP with mental health problems, which may also be helpful with your assessment. Please see: mentalhealthandmoneyadvice....

Look through your PIP claim beforehand, if you kept a copy, & if you haven't given a couple of detailed examples of the difficulties you face for each activity/descriptor that applies, think how to now better explain it.

If you have someone who can support you during your assessment, put your phone on speakerphone so they can comment if needed.

Take your time; if you need to ask them to repeat any questions, just say. You can do this.

Above all be honest, you shouldn't try to get the higher mobility rate to fit you, rather explain the problems you have, as Dizzytwo has mentioned.

The rules for PIP have changed slightly for people with mental health issues, but will not be relevant for your claim, rather some of those with previous ones. The good news is that claims for PIP are more successful now with phone assessments.

Please let everyone know how you get on.

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to CM1EDSUK]

That link was very helpful thank you x

[CM1EDSUK in reply to gemmahughes1987]

You're welcome, & thank you for saying it's helpful.

[CM1EDSUK]

I'm sure you mean well, but telling a member how to 'get' points is surely unethical. Surely appropriate advice & support should be offered rather than leading examples. You do not necessarily get points with the examples you illustrate, it really does depend on an individuals problems.

I'm not sure you answered the OP's question, & I may have not done so either; she just was asking for tips about her phone assessment, & if the criteria for PIP had changed.

[Mpalgal]

Hi Also if you can do the distance repeatedly, safely, and in a timely manner. Meaning if you can walk whatever distance you can walk and repeat it again or do you have to rest for a while before repeating it. Or you can walk ie 20/30/40m but would have to stop every 10/15m to rest and then continue. It is how to get across what You can do. Hope that helps.

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Be honest that's all we can do. How far can you walk without stopping for pain for instance. When ajay says it's up to 20 metres for the car what he means is you have to be very limited in your walking to get high mobility rate of PIP. X

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to Hidden]

I can walk with a crutch slowly and painfully then the panic sets in to get to a safe place and lock the doors. I have temporary use of a car and its helped me alot I spoke to my gp and she told me to go for higher pip to get a mobility car so I can get out more and feel safe.

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Lol.. it is the wording hun, if you read it back it looks like 20 metres for a car which is not clear.. x just trying to help out with wording

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It was my best subject lol 😊

[OldProgie]

Get ready to appeal. They will probably refuse at first.

[Farmerboy]

Hi Ajay, hope your well, Reading your replys it sounds like a competition to win a car. There are a lot of claiments who do their best to get a high rate mobility award most deserves the award and then we you and I see people having a car parking up and walk off unaided to the shops well over 100 meters with out stopping, my wife looks and all I can say is yes I know most likely invisible disability or the partner using the car for their own personal use. My opinion is that those who have mental health problems and use the descriptior unable to plan a journey should not hold a driving licence.

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to Farmerboy]

comments like that is the reason its taken me 2 years to ask for help. I think you and your wife should keep your "invisible" small minded options to yourself. I thought this site is so you can reach out for help not judgement.

[Farmerboy in reply to gemmahughes1987]

So sorry that you or any one else was offended or upset by my comments and postings. I still stand by my comments that people with anxiety attacks should have due consideration before they drive a car knowing that an anxiety attack could happen whilst driving putting themselves and others at risk from an accident. No one knows what’s going on in a persons mind that could cause them to suddenly change from a reasonable driver to a careless dangerous driver for what ever reason that causes the anxiety attacks. My comments where no and are not an attack on people with mental health issues . With the best will in the world driving a car is a skilled ability that needs full concentration and reactions to situations quickly with out putting your self and others at risk or danger. The roads are a lot congested today.

[gemmahughes1987 in reply to Farmerboy]

Thank you for replying but it still doesn't mean you and your wife can judge people with disabilities you cant see so I hope you don't make it obvious to them when your out. I have ptsd and anxiety and wont use public transport I physically can't do it. If I cant lock myself in somewhere and feel safe I won't go out. I also will never drive if I feel unwell I wouldn't put my children at risk and if I feel a panic attack coming on while driving which has never happened, I would pull over and stop my car. I have hip and back problems and someday I can move without the aid of a crutch but when I get joke I am exhausted and very sore. Your comment just ruined me the wrong way I felt very judged just because I dont have something people can always see.

[mummymax9 in reply to Farmerboy]

That descriptor cover planning a journey on foot car and public transport , people with MH might not be able to travel on public transport etc just saying 🤷‍♀️

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO thank you lol

[Farmerboy]

I get high mobility entitlement to a car but as I had a perfectly good car in good order chose not to apply but had the benefits of no road tax for two years before change my car for an automatic with a £20 road tax per year so I haven’t bothered with tax benefits. It means my daughters can use the car for any purpose with any miss use by have the free car tax. A lot of people have a mobility car and after three year they have done very few miles, my current car is an ex mobility car bought with under 10000 miles on the clock 4 years old now with the COVID, still under 12 thousand miles 5 years old this December, got all the extras but not the nee price had an oil change every 2500 miles ave couldn’t miss the buy.

[Farmerboy]

Hi Ajay, having my own mobility scooter nearly two years this model average daily use 5 to 7 miles a day dog walking and done over 3760 miles mainly hard woodland paths up hill ect where ever the dog leads me. Well my range was reduced starting in July and last week got to a state of 2 miles per charge. So bite the bullet and after numerous phone calls to dealers for advice on AGM or GEL 100 amp batteries bought two new GEL batteries they came Thursday and my wife and I fitted them, so heavy. Charged up now should get two to three years use if I am lucky, charge every night my eldest grandson love going in the mud and driving it with the seat forward on the MOD parkland on his own. I’ve got a new st of trues to go on when ready trying to wear these down before the winter set in may go through to the spring if I choose my routes when wet down hill on muddy paths and uphill on the gravel. It got an 1200 watt motor so plenty of power for uphill and difficult situations. Driving tractors for 40 plus years I was t going to be pavement bound.

[Sketch2019]

Hi Gemma just tell them how your bad days are look on line for advice too and recently followed a link about how you can word things hope it helps

[gemmahughes1987]

My anxiety is due to sexual assaults and domestic violence. I freak out if I go somewhere and my legs won't move quick enough to get me back into the car where I can lock myself in. I have a full meltdown and try to compose myself but its hard.