Pip Tribunal waiting times!

[Swallowart]

So I applied for PiP this year, I have MS and FM, after being declined initially and after mandatory reconsideration I initiated an appeal to the Tribunal. Pretty depressing state of affairs really given the amount of lying the assessor did and the dismissive answers to all my points on the application. Anyway i rang the tribunal service two days ago as I had not heard anything about a date and they told me that the waiting time in Leeds is currently 44 weeks!!!!!! Thats right nearly a year and if you factor in the nearly 9months since I first applied that is 18 months of waiting around. I was gobsmacked. This is seriously damaging my health here too. Gahhhhhh!!!! Its outrageous.

[Hidden]

Unbelievable;!

[FRreedman]

It is disgusting, making people wait that long, when the original decision is based on an assessor lying. There should be a case for lying in a public office offence, so that the assessor and their employer could be sued for the additional interest, and heartache as well as the distress caused to all claimants when they don't know where the next lot of income is coming from and trying to make ends meet with insufficient income due to the lies and inconsistences in the assessors' reports.

[Swallowart in reply to FRreedman]

Yeah it was really flabbergasting.

[Sailingtrio]

How awful, I am so sorry. I seem to be the only one who had an ok experience with a pip assessor; she was very empathic and kind.

Thinking of you. 🦋

[Swallowart in reply to Sailingtrio]

I am sure there are some out there but I bet they don’t last longs glad to hear you had someone good.

[LadyJoro]

I helped a friend apply two years back and the wait then from application to award was 56 weeks it doesn’t surprise me that it’s only getting worse when they get the decisions so wrong to start with.

My wheelchair user other half was originally refused higher mobility, he has no leg function.

If they can’t get that right then we are all screwed

[Swallowart in reply to LadyJoro]

Yeah there is a sense that we are all lying to get loads of dosh whilst living it up.. Evidehce to the contrary is just dismissed

[trudym]

That's absolutely ridiculous!😳

[Swallowart in reply to trudym]

Indeed

[Hidden]

Crikey....it doesn't help does it all that waiting. I waited 18 months from start to finish in 2013/14 for my tribunal at Bradford. If it's any consolation I won and got back pay. Good luck xx

[Swallowart in reply to Hidden]

No the only silver lining was the backdated lump sum meant I could by a powered wheelchair outright.

[Hidden in reply to Swallowart]

That's good

[Bobbassett]

Good morning Swallowart,

Funny you should say that ....

I said to my OH on Wednesday that if I didn’t hear back by the end of this week, I would ask my daughter to help me chase it up.

My application for Tribunal was sent in March and yesterday I finally received that brown envelope.

My hearing is on January 7th, that’s 10 months of waiting 😡 and two days after an overnight stay in hospital at the Sleep Clinic.

My very scientific neurologist suggested I may have sleep apnea and if that is treated, all the other fibro symptoms will improve ... is he my fairy godmother????

What a start to the new year!

I don’t know whether to panic or be excited

I wish you and everyone else going through this outrageous procedure all the very best.

If I succeed and get some back pay, I’ll join Bobbybobb at the Bhuddist retreat 😃

Happy weekend everyone

Jan xx

[Hidden]

It is disgusting, I got lucky, they decided to award me enhanced for both about 3 weeks after I submitted my appeal. It had been 13 months since I had reapplied to actually get what I was supposed too. Keeping my fingers crossed for you xx

[Soupy56 in reply to Hidden]

So did you not have to go through the tribunal at all. Did they award it after they reconsidered your appeal?

[Hidden in reply to Soupy56]

No I didn't have to go through the tribunal. Three weeks after I lodged my appeal they sent a letter. In the letter they said 'we have looked at our decision again and your evidence and can now award you enhanced for daily living and enhanced for mobility'. Which is really silly as it was exactly the same evidence that they had when I put in for mandatory reconsideration! They obviously were hoping I wouldn't appeal. Xx

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

Thank you for your reply. That’s encouraging.

[Soupy56 in reply to Hidden]

That’s good to hear. I’ve just posted my PIP appeal today to take it to the Tribunal. I had also applied for ESA and was interviewed via telephone last week & I received an email from UC the next day to say I had been successful and the payment was back dated to 30/12/2019. 😀

I’ll keep you posted.

[Swallowart in reply to Hidden]

Thanks it worked out eventually for me.

[DearD]

I waited 14 months for my Tribunal date which is disgusting. Of course the real problem is the sheer numbers of us having to go to Tribunal because of the flawed assessments. The Mandatory reconsideration was a complete farce - just continually using the same 'excuse' for every descriptor - that I can drive a car so can obviously do everything else!

Anyways, I won the Tribunal but 14 months with no income really took its toll on me

[Swallowart in reply to DearD]

OMG same here.

[DearD in reply to Swallowart]

Same 14 month wait or are you able to tap dance, compete in the Olympics, and construct a 30 story building just because you can drive!!!

[Al10]

Thought tribunal s were quicker these days. My first tribunal was 14 months. Time to realise if you don't recover this is how you can expect to be treated. Yes they wreck your health but it doesn't matter to them. The lack of humanity shown is breathtaking. As an observer it is fascinating. Often times I would find myself detaching, watching. As a participant it is damaging. Living it every day. I doubt anyone going through this is ever the same after.

I remember when they finally found in my favour they said spending time on appeal would have negatively affected my health and they had to remember all that time ago when I was assessed I would not have been so fragile( I'd lost over 10%of my body weight.). It was shocking. They knew that we were being damaged yet still participated.

Try to stay strong. Never stop fighting for what is right.

[Swallowart]

That all sounds horrific. It’s totally in humane what they are doing.