Non medicated FET

[Rol81]

Hi everyone.

I’m back again!! Not as miserable this month!! I was so fed up for about a week or two. Ate loads of crap and back on the alcohol!! I literally cannot look at a cocktail now. 🙈

Tbh I was really down and starting to give up . All your messages and encouragement helped so much. So I’m ploughing ahead, I’m going to be starting my first frozen transfer next month hopefully.

I have 2 frozen embryos , frozen on day one , think they are called PN embryos.

I’ve decided to go for natural non medicated cycle. Mainly because the embryos aren’t graded, I don’t want to do weeks of injections and have nothing to transfer.

Either way medicated or non medicated I’ll be upset but think it will be less stress physically on me. I hope it’s the right decision .

I’d love to hear any tips or advice on natural frozen cycle ?

I have tried naturally this month, always hoping for a miracle 🙈Tracking with ovulation sticks, didn’t get a high LH surge till day 18/19, this is quite late .

Should I mention this to the clinic, is this something that can affect frozen transfer?

Thanks every as always for your support x

[Applepie7]

All the best my lovely keeping everything crossed for you.

[DianeArnold Partner Nurse Fertility Network UK]

Hi Rol. Just wanted to wish you all the best with whatever you decide. Let's hope this next one is your one/ Thinking of you. Diane

[Rol81 in reply to DianeArnold]

Aw Diane, thank you so much . ❤️

[Masief]

Hi there, I have done 2 in the past which were so much more gentler on my body. I had a few medicated that were BFN. Then tried natural and got pregnant, but for various reasons both ended in m/c. I've found all my issues now so doing another natural. Again, so easy. If you track your cycle every month (I have 18 months worth of data now) you will see your pattern. For me I always ovulate cd 14/15. So when the clinic suggest monitoring from day 10 it's spot on. Twice I have only needed to go for one scan and they could see my lining was 8mm and follicle 17.6mm so close to surging and ovulation. I'd get some clear blue advanced opk as they ask you to start testing after they see where your lining/follicle is. If you've never done this before and aren't sure of your ovulation day (every month) I'd go in from day 10 as the scan is the most accurate source of info. Good luck! X

[Rol81 in reply to Masief]

Hi Masief,Thank you for your reply. I’ve just read all your posts, congratulations 😊 very happy it worked for you.

I have tracked this month but my LH surge wasn't

until day 19. This was my first bleed since my egg

retrieval which was actually late. I'm normally

very regular and I think my lh surge in the past was day 14/15.

So I'm presuming my cycle was a bit messed up

due to egg retrieval. Do you think it's ok to go

ahead next cycle or should I track for a few

months?

Like in one of your posts, I’m worried about ovulation , I find the strips stressful. I will probably test with strips and buy the clear blue smiley face one too 🙈

[Masief]

Hiya, so I haven't managed to carry to term yet! But I know why now. Natural FET was best for my body as I can't manage synthetic estrogen. So this is why I believe natural works for me. Your cycle would definitely be affected by the hormones. I found tracking for a few months gave me peace of mind and more trust in my body. Stress can also cause your cycle to go wonky and you don't want that. I used clear blue ovulation sticks for a good few months. Maybe you can do 2 and then you have a better picture of what to expect. I'm so regular that I am able now to track my transfer date based on when I know I will ovulate. I also use BBT, which gives me a really clear idea of when I am about to ovulate and once I already have. I found BBT to be the most reliable. It's very personal, but I think it's worth giving your body some time to recover and hormones to balance before next transfer. Our bodies go through so much in the process. Good luck x

[Rol81 in reply to Masief]

Oh I’m sorry , I must had read it wrong 🙄 I thought you had. Thank you for all your info, I am quite desperate to start this month but it was at the back of my mind that I should give it another month for my cycles to return to normal.

Thank you and I’ll be watching your posts, wishing you loads of luck xx

[Masief in reply to Rol81]

Ah no worries at all, I am pleased to have got pregnant. It shows progress, and I am hopeful. Good luck to you too, this is such a tough journey but we all become experts on fertility by the end of it 😀 xxx

[GabyNgelik]

I get what you are feeling. I also decided to try a natural cycle right after my first + failed fresh transfer and I also wonder if I should have let my body rest until it went back to normal. I got my period five days after I stopped progesterone shots and I would have surged on cd16, but I didn't. I actually surged on cd20 with the help of Letrozole thus my second attempt has become a modified natural cycle.

I think it was only because of those meds that I got somewhere, and I am regular, so I also wonder if I am making the right choice. However, I do agree with you that it is way less stressful than a fresh transfer.

Something different I am doing this time is acupuncture and eating healthier (lost of Vitamin C). I also am trying to get a good dose of vitamin D with the sun, so I dont get sick.

On my fresh transfer I got sick the next day of the transfer and then knew something when wrong. So, I now wonder about those nk cells. That is why I am really trying to balance that out and I read that Vitamin D is a natural nk cells suppressor or just generally helps to not get sick. Just as vitamin C does.

We will see how it goes, but I really hope and pray it happens for us. 🤞🏻🙏🏻

[Rol81 in reply to GabyNgelik]

So how long did you wait from egg retrieval and frozen transfer? Have you been tests for NKcells? X

[GabyNgelik in reply to Rol81]

Well I would say around 5 weeks more or less and that is to do the actual fet which is this Saturday. So, I began as soon as my period started after I stopped my progesterone shots from my fresh embryo transfer.

I took no break 😅

I spoke to the RN and Dr about the possibility of having high NK cells and they just responded that it is most likely not the case. I personally think they are playing it out to see if this one work if not then they may consider other tests, but that bugs me out because its money I spend.