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So our 8th transfer failed, I had spotting on and off since 3dp5dt so not a huge shock but still cutting.

Our next steps are already in place and with this period I start medication for an endometrial biopsy including an ERA test. Really hope we get some answers and something new to try for our next transfer.

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Millbanks profile image
Millbanks

I'm so sorry to hear this - it's so cruel. I would highly recommend the ERA test - it changed ours by 24 hours. Are you having NK cells also? xx

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Core in reply to Millbanks

Thatโ€™s good to hear about the ERA are you following the same protocol for your next FET? They also look at the โ€˜immune environmentโ€™ of the uterus so not sure if thatโ€™s NK cells or something else? Did you have them tested?xx

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Millbanks in reply to Core

Yes we will be - when my effing cyst disappears!! So if they are doing ALICE/EMMA they will be looking at the microbiomes to see if the bacteria is normal. NK cells are when your natural defence cells are really active and can potentially stop embryos implanting (although this is up for debate still)... I didn't have mine done, but I've since realised that as my mum has an autoimmune disease it could be an indicator that mine are raised too. So I wish I had had them tested. My clinic doesn't really believe in them though which is why I didn't. xx

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Core in reply to Millbanks

Hope your cyst hurries up and goes soon for you! I asked about EMMA and ALICE but they said not enough evidence for that so Iโ€™m not sure, basically they said itโ€™s an endometrial biopsy as part of an implantation failure clinic. My clinic is nhs so doesnโ€™t do it but Iโ€™m hoping they will still accept the results. My consultant said theyโ€™d do all they can to help so hopefully!xx

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Millbanks in reply to Core

Well that sounds positive anyway! I think ERA is probably the most useful :)Everything crossed for some answers for you xx

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Hope_1234

So sorry to hear this. My OFD is tomorrow. If that's negative I also plan on having ERA (also NK cells test)

Wishing you the best of luck with your tests and hope you get the answers you need x

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Core in reply to Hope_1234

Thank you, good luck for tomorrow xx

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Littlepeax

So sorry to hear this โคโค It sounds like you know what you're doing though and it's good to have steps in place. Good luck with all your tests xxx

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ToughCOOKIE78

Im so sorry to hear hun, 8 transfers are a lot! Are your embryos genetically tested- in case they have abnormalities? I donโ€™t know how old you are but totally worth looking into that if you havenโ€™t already. Good luck ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€

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Core in reply to ToughCOOKIE78

Thanks, I did ask about this a while ago but I was 28 when the embryos were made so they said it didnโ€™t really apply to us. I think if we did another fresh round itโ€™s something I would ask about xx

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Clover5

I'm sorry to hear about your BFN hun, it's just pants. I really hope you can get some answers as to why this keeps happening so your in a better place for your next transfer. Sending a hug ๐Ÿ’•xXx

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Ranchu90

I am so sorry, this is absolutely painful. I had 3 transfers so far and all 3 ended in chemicals. Hope the tests will give some answers. Stay strong ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿค—

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Core in reply to Ranchu90

So sorry to hear about your chemicals, really hope you have some better luck soon xx

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Ranchu90 in reply to Core

Next month ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿคž let's hope!

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Georgie17

I am so sorry but I am glad to see that you know what to try next. Xx

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HemBella

So sorry to hear this ๐Ÿ’•

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lawrins

Itโ€™s really very sorry to hear this. You must be feeling very low. It sounds like you have had some serious struggles and must be such a strong person. I know it's really very upsetting seeing BFN when testing early. I would try the FRER test which is a bit more sensitive. I have not had a clear blue line. But on the first time it showed positive results with a faint line on FRER at my 12dp5dt.So, donโ€™t lose heart. Moreover, I think ERA is also very useful. It changes our 24 hours. Take time for yourself. You have done your best and all you can possibly do. All the best dear.

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Core in reply to lawrins

Thanks, my clinic donโ€™t ask us to test till 14dp5dt and if itโ€™s negative they ask us to stop medication so itโ€™s definitely over but Iโ€™ll dust myself off and be back for another once these tests are done xx

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Solly-44

Iโ€™m so sorry Core. Hoping the tests give the answers needed to make the right changes. You are so strong, sending peace and hugs xx

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Core in reply to Solly-44

Thanks lovely xx

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Gueritarubia

Oh damn it, had so hoped for better news! Really really sorry to hear this, you certainly deserved a BFP by now!

Hope the ERA test is giving you something else to try. Youโ€™re a fighter. Allow yourself some nice wine and treats and then focus on the next round! Big hugs

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Core in reply to Gueritarubia

Thanks lovely, where are you at with your FET now?xx

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Gueritarubia in reply to Core

Going to have my transfer Wednesday. Am taking more progesterone and longer (skipped the ERA test as our second opinion was so convinced I was always on such short progesterone protocol that it was almost certain weโ€™d be told to take it longer) and also on Prednisolone and had a scratch. Work is a nightmare so have taken a few days off and seeing my GP Wednesday in the Hope I can get signed off for a bit. Normally Iโ€™d like to keep busy to keep my mind off things but canโ€™t risk work screwing up our last cycle, and itโ€™s really bad right now...

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Core in reply to Gueritarubia

Thatโ€™s great that theyโ€™ve changed things for you. I hope you manage to get signed off, know exactly what y oh mean about wanting to give your all to your last one, really hope it works for you xx

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Gueritarubia in reply to Core

Thank you. A bit annoyed they didnโ€™t change anything the previous six cycles but letโ€™s hope this last thaws well like the others and this is the magic mix! Wish you all the best too, Iโ€™ll be cheering you on!

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Core in reply to Gueritarubia

I know exactly what you mean! You too lovely xx

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Picalilli99

So sorry Core, absolutely gutted for you. Itโ€™s a brutal old process. But great that you have your next steps planned and I really hope that the tests shed some more light on things and mean that thereโ€™s something that they can tweak to help improve things next time. Hold on in there lovely, you are an absolute trooper. Sending huge hugs xx

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Core in reply to Picalilli99

Thanks lovely, how are things with you?xx

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Picalilli99 in reply to Core

Not bad thanks. Looking forward to starting our first attempt with DE fairly soon. Iโ€™m due to hopefully finish off a qualification Iโ€™ve been doing for ages in May, so would ideally love to get going as soon as possible after that. But all will depend on the waiting list xx

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Core in reply to Picalilli99

Hopefully the timing will be perfect and youโ€™ll hit the top of the waiting list just after your qualification. Good luck with both xx

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andromedae9

I'm so sorry Core xx

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JustAGirl21

So sorry to read this ๐Ÿ˜” If this next one fails for me I think ERA test is my next plan too. Hope that gives you some answers x

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Lots8788

So much love and hugs to you hun xx

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Cinderella5

Awww I'm so sorry Core!๐Ÿ˜• Its great that you are planning ahead, I really hope you get some answers going forward. It's hard trudging on, your legs get tired but hang on in there!!๐Ÿ˜˜xxx

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Core in reply to Cinderella5

Thanks lovely, hope all is still going well with you xx

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Cinderella5 in reply to Core

All good at my end thanks, no complaints! 9 weeks to go.xx

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Core in reply to Cinderella5

Wow! Thatโ€™s come around so quickly! So exciting!xx

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Ginny27

Sorry to hear this core, I had everything crossed for you. So pleased you have steps in place and I hope you can have a nice weekend and look after yourself Xxx

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Kookypie

Wow you are one tough cookie to go through 8 transfers! I really hope you get some answers as to why this keeps happening. X

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Core in reply to Kookypie

Thank you, hopefully xx

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Beatrix_K

Hey Core just wanted to say how sorry I am to hear this. I think you are an inspiration. You are super strong and resilient- and you are still young so keep going! Hope a glass of wine is on the cards tonight xxx

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Core in reply to Beatrix_K

Thank you yes definitely a weekend of treats!xx

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XOXO13

Iโ€™m so sorry to read this ๐Ÿ’” 8 transfers, youโ€™re an absolute trooper and inspiration, youโ€™ve clearly got so much strength and fight in you and I admire that. I hope the new tests can tell you something to help modify the next cycle for you ๐Ÿคž๐ŸปBig hugs xx

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Core in reply to XOXO13

Thank you xx

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PenguinBlue

Iโ€™mSo sorry to hear this. I know it never gets easier so hope you have the time and space to grieve. Hope that further tests will help change up your next cycle xxx

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Peanutchips

Iโ€™m so sorry Core. Itโ€™s so tough, sending you a massive hug. It sounds like you have a good plan in place for next time and I hope you get some helpful answers from your upcoming tests โค๏ธ xxx

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Millbanks

Have you had your ERA yet lovely? x

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Core in reply to Millbanks

I have, I should get the results next week. How are you doing? Sorry to see your last transfer failed. What did they say for your ERA results?xx

Millbanks profile image
Millbanks in reply to Core

Ooo great! Thank you. So frustrating!! Weโ€™re going for pgs before the next one. My ERA showed we needed transfer 24 hours later xx

Core profile image
Core in reply to Millbanks

Good luck with your PGS testing is that on frozen embryos or will it be on fresh ones?xx

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Millbanks in reply to Core

Itโ€™ll be frozen so we can use our ERA timings again. Fingers crossed xx

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Core in reply to Millbanks

Really hope this is the key for you xx

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RhinoCat

Awh man ๐Ÿฅบ๐Ÿ˜ฉ๐Ÿ˜ข so sorry to read this ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’– Itโ€™s good youโ€™ve got some things to look at before the next but man it must still hurt so bad ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’ love snd hugs. Hope you can enjoy some wine and cry until the pain of it eases.

Hugs and hugs sweet one ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’–

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Core in reply to RhinoCat

Thanks lovely, yes Iโ€™m definitely feeling like will it ever happen for us. I get the results from the test next week so hopefully we may get some answers xx

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RhinoCat in reply to Core

Itโ€™ll be good to get the results soon enough then ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป Hope you can rest and heal until then ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’

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FrancyItaly

This is so unfair. Sending you a huge hug ๐Ÿ’•

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