Getting gum pain around the time of my cycle????

[ladydady]

Hi ladies! I have a bit of an odd question and was wondering whether any of my fellow endo sufferers had experienced the same problem. I have been periodically having gum pain further behind my upper wisdom teeth and have noticed the last 2 months that it seemed to occur at the same time as my period. I am due on tomorrow and have just noticed the familiar pain in my mouth coming on again. I thought it must have been coincidental before but now I'm not so sure. Any advice ladies? Many thanks!

[Lillil]

Yes! Well kind of!

When I first started getting severe pain from endo pre-diagnosis I always got jaw/wisdom tooth pain in agony minutes before i had severe rolling around floor screaming pelvic pain. It was the most bizarre thing and I thought it was just me!

I don't think I ever have mentioned it to any Dr as they already treated me like I was crazy and didn't want to add to it.

I've been in medicated menopause past few months, just starting to come out of it now and again the jaw/gum/wisdom tooth pain behind is back. I have noticed another part of my wisdom tooth coming through this time though.

I've always put it down to assuming there is a nerve connecting them but now you have me wondering!

Please let me know if you find out anything. Maybe we should ask the question has anyone been diagnosed with endo in the mouth? The crazy questions endo makes us ask!

If it helps oragel extra strength i have found amazing. You buy it over the counter and has same numbing effect they give you at dentist.

Hope your pain eases soon

[Jembee]

Me too and I thought I was going crazy!

[Jennybelfast]

I have very sore gums and sinus aggravation monthly (along with all the other cyclical aches and pains! )

[Sexygal]

I also noticed the gum problem this year and it is really getting on my nerve

[iona1651]

I'm so glad I've found this forum. I had really bad pain in my jaw last week. I used to get 'lock jaw' when I was around 12 but this was because I had buck teeth and was dislocating my jaw to meet my front teeth without realising. This was all fixed with braces etc. The pain I had last week was on my right side and it just locked up and was painful to eat. My gums have been very sore and inflamed too. I've just been diagnosed with endo and on the same day found out I'm pregnant - maybe there is a connection?

[shrek]

Before my hysterectomy I used to get sore gums and reoccurring gingivitis - sometimes very severe - I only later recognised the link that it was alongside my periods. Possibly due to the immune link - when I was low and run down at the time of my period, i could almost gaurantee sore gums/gingivitis would strike.

[ladydady]

Wow it's not just me then! Thanks all for your replies. Come to think of it I get sinus trouble with it too. I have an apt with an endo specialist and will make sure I remember to ask about it. I will put any words of wisdom I get on here to share with you all. Take care all! X

[jayneeb3]

Hi

Me too, infact my dentist noticed how my gums had improved after my 1st op,am back to square one and on prostap injections and my teeth are playing up again, a link to collegen and oestrogen dominance. I also too have sinus problems.

xxx

[adelejensen]

Hi all.

I can't believe what I've just read! I've had horrendous painful gums behind my top front teeth for as long as I can remember, and always around the same time of the month. How strange!!! Just tend to use Oraldene mouthwash and bonjela, but does gradually settle.

xx

[jinka]

Hi ladies!

I grind my teeth when I am stressed! So much so that for the next few days I cannot open my mouth without vast amounts of pain! My jaw just won't work!

I don't see this as a symptom of my Endo though, just a very stressful lifestyle! I have been off work sick for many months now and I haven't once had this happen!

Xx

[Bokkie]

Before I went on Zoladex my gums were a little swollen in places and bled a lot when I brushed my teeth and I would wake up in the morning with a taste of blood. I couldn't understand it as I look after my teeth and gums. When I was on Zoladex my gums didn't bleed and the taste went completely. Now I am not having Zoladex my gums are starting to play up again. It MUST be the Endo!

[classiebird]

Omg how weird. I've also noticed I get sore inflamed bleeding gums round my period. Just ignored it because I've got enuf problems.

I keep finding these odd things women with endo get that just don't fall into typical endo symptoms.

Sore knees being an example. Mine creak as I bend down on my honkers wen my endo is bad

Also carpel tunnel syndrome is another I've seen mentioned

The sinus is an interesting one as asthma is more prevalent in endo and both can be allergy based.

I wonder should we start a poll, what odd symptoms do you get round your period/when your endo flares up.

Would be a very interesting research area and could possibly lead to clues as to what is happening in the disease.

[jan2012]

Hi i am a newby i am seeing gyno in couple of weeks as my doc thinks i have endo,but along with all the other symptoms you get i also get inflamed gums and ear ache

[sarahC1987]

Women may be more susceptible to oral health problems because of the unique hormonal changes they experience. Hormones not only affect the blood supply to the gum tissue, but also the body's response to the toxins (poisons) that result from plaque buildup. As a result of these changes, women are more prone to the development of periodontal disease at certain stages of their lives, as well as to other oral health problems.

When Are Women More at Risk for Oral Health Problems?

There are five situations in a women's life during which hormone fluctuations make them more susceptible to oral health problems – during puberty, at certain points in the monthly menstrual cycle, when using birth control pills, during pregnancy, and at menopause.

Puberty

The surge in production of the female hormones estrogen and progesterone that occurs during puberty can increase the blood flow to the gums and change the way gum tissue reacts to irritants in plaque, causing the gum tissue to become red, tender, swollen, and more likely to bleed during brushing and flossing.

The monthly menstrual cycle

Due to the hormonal changes (particularly the increase in progesterone) that occur during the menstrual cycle, some women experience oral changes that can include bright red swollen gums, swollen salivary glands, development of canker sores, or bleeding gums. Menstruation gingivitis usually occurs a day or two before the start of the period and clears up shortly after the period has started.

Use of birth control pills

Women who take certain birth control pills that contain progesterone, which increases the level of that hormone in the body, may experience inflamed gum tissues due to the body's exaggerated reaction to the toxins produced from plaque. Tell your dentist if you are taking an oral contraceptive.

Pregnancy

Hormone levels change considerably during pregnancy. An increased level of progesterone, in particular, can cause gum disease any time during the second to eighth month of pregnancy – a condition called pregnancy gingivitis. Your dentist may recommend more frequent professional cleanings during your second or early third trimester to help reduce the chance of developing gingivitis. Tell your dentist if you are pregnant.

Menopause

Numerous oral changes can occur as a consequence of advanced age, the medications taken to combat diseases, and hormonal changes due to menopause. These oral changes can include altered taste, burning sensations in the mouth, greater sensitivity to hot and cold foods and beverages, and decreased salivary flow that can result in dry mouth.

Dry mouth, in turn, can result in the development of tooth decay and gum disease, because saliva is not available to moisten and cleanse the mouth by neutralizing acids produced by plaque. Dry mouth can also result from many prescription and over-the-counter medications that are commonly prescribed to older adults.

The decline in estrogen that occurs with menopause also puts women at greater risk for loss of bone density. Loss of bone, specifically in the jaw, can lead to tooth loss. Receding gums can be a sign of bone loss in the jawbone. Receding gums also expose more of the tooth surface to potential tooth decay.

[Juliana24]

I have had periodontal disease. My gums bled during pregnancy. I had taken the periodontal treatment ( sierracentre.com/services/i... ) from a nearby dental clinic. I also used a softer brush and corsodyl from time to time. After that they turned to their normal, non-bleeding state within days.

[hazs]

Hello everyone, thank you for all of your posts which make me feel less worried.

I came off the pill after 20+ years and very quickly experienced extreme tiredness, followed by horrendous abdominal pains and numbness at the top of my legs. The doctor quickly sent me for scans at the hospital, after three days I was discharged knowing I had an apple sized para ovarian cyst, three months later I underwent a cystectomy where they discovered endometriosis which they partially blazed. For the last six months since the operation my pain has worsened to the point I am on so much medication I practically rattle as I walk. As the NHS continued to mess me about with referrals, I was eventually forced to go for a private consultation. The surgeon prescribed Prostap, and after two injections I am already experiencing symptoms of the menopause. The hot flushes are unusual, but the problem is that I now have extreme jaw pain, which has spread to my teeth and gums. But thanks to the posting by SarahC1987 and the other Ladies in this forum I now have a starting point for more research.

Thank you everyone who has posted, most helpful x