New member in the gang😁

[dheerp]

Greeting all,

i discovered i am diabetic few months back when i did a routine blood test. i believe this was brought on by stress of past 3-4 years.

My readings in dec 2016 were-

BFS 181

BS PP 296

Urine sugar Present +++

HBA1C 10.2

Mean Plasma glucose 246

S creatine 0.7

Latest readings (only one test) July 2017

Hba1c 11.1

eAG 271.87

my weight around 100 kg, 47 age

sedentry , 2 kms brisk walk evening

i eat chappatis (3) sabji daal rice everyday, tea (have rduced sugar to just a pinch), coffee occasionaly, i never had sweet tooth , sweets very occasionally.

doc to whom i went after 1st test gave 250 mg metmorphin for a month but guess they were ineffective ( did not notice in accucheck readings).

so ur suggestions please for further course of action.

thank u

[dheerp]

hi champak

"Stop eating rice, potatoes, pastas etc -- Start on LCHF diet"

might as well as starve🤣🤣🤣

anyways

1) total elemination or moderation of mentioned?

2) accucheck monitoring when exactly.

3) is peanuts good (tawa roasted without oil) when hunger pangs?

4) dryfruits(kaju badam) recommender qty daily ?

5) danger fruits and frrindly fruit.

6) powa, upma, dosa , idli in breakfast ok?

7) nonveg so some chicken salads with mayonise ?

8) i m from mumbai so occasional vada paav and kanda bhaji ok? is besan good?

thanks

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

Hi dheerp

"Stop eating rice, potatoes, pastas etc -- Start on LCHF diet"

might as well as starve

- Nah...you can opt for low carb diet...to your satiation.

total elemination or moderation of mentioned?

- -Initially in Moderation... and once induction period is over...depending upon your medical reports and Hba1c.

accucheck monitoring when exactly.

- For me FBS control is more important.. as our PPBS depnds on that most of the time..

is peanuts good (tawa roasted without oil) when hunger pangs?

- Peanuts may be good...but in moderation..as for few(like me adversely affect FBS)

dryfruits(kaju badam) recommender qty daily ?

- Badam ok....jamle tar charoli kha...kaju nakot..

danger fruits and frrindly fruit.

- stay away from all fruits for atleast next 8 months till your liver heals..

powa, upma, dosa , idli in breakfast ok?

कडधान्याचे थालीपीठ खा

nonveg so some chicken salads with mayonise ?

-mutton chicken egges fish bharpur kha..

i m from mumbai so occasional vada paav and kanda bhaji ok? is besan good?

Vada paav nako...kanda bhaji chaltil...besan pithale kha..pan besan bhat nako..

आता तुम्हीच तुमचे ठरवा काय जमते ते...

पण हे करा नक्की फायदा होईल...

[dheerp in reply to cure]

ata mala saanga raav chapati bhat ajibat nahi ki in limit . ata me 3 chapati khato and 2 wati bhat. jar chapati nahi tar exactly kay. bhaakri? karan chicken mutton khayacha kasha without chapati bhaat.

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

मासे खोबऱ्याच्या तेलात तळुन भरपूर खा ...

भात अजिबात नको...

आपण पोळी भाजी खातो....

आता आपल्याला भाजी आणि पोळी खायची आहे...

भाजी २ वाट्या आणि पोळी एकच

पोळी खपली गव्हाची खाल्ली तर उत्तम

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

भाकरी आणि चपाती फार फरक नाही ... १९/२० चा फरक आहे..

एकदम जमणार नाही ..हळू हळू जमेल...

प्रयत्न तर करा..

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

अंड्याची भुर्जी खा... पोळी ऐवजी बेसन चिल्ला /बेसनाचे घावन खा.

[DRH-sangli Star in reply to cure]

@ cure... कडधान्याचे थालीपीठ खा....how to do?... ingredients,?. Proportion?... mug,matki,bason,?.. pls explain

[DRH-sangli Star in reply to DRH-sangli]

@ cure... and is these mixed atta or Bhajni pith,available in Mumbai? Where? I stay in Parle...

[cure Administrator in reply to DRH-sangli]

ghari banwata ale tar changale... kad dhanye bhijawun bhajun ....

In Pune we get readymade... but who knows what they add??

[DRH-sangli Star in reply to cure]

Sure! Ok.

[cure Administrator in reply to DRH-sangli]

there was one Good old time doctor...dr.Purandare...he use to always say...soak grain roast then use....

That is the best way to use grains..

[Shameek in reply to dheerp]

I don't think you can ever beat diabetes with eating habits like this

Yoi need to have foods that have moderate carbs but low GI and Gl.

Idli etc is exactly what you should not have.kanda bhajji mayonnaise? Are you serious ?

Don't have any milk products ie milk,butter milk cheese bhee dahi etc. The milk we get today is different and very harmful for diabtetics.

Replace all wheat and rice with bajra jowar or nachni roti or besan cheela etc as much as possible

Try and cook with onions and water instead of oil

Eat lots of rajma chawli beans etc.

Salads

Fruits you can have oranges apples, pears etc .don't have juices as fruits when made into juice release into the system much faster.

Exercise for 45 mins at least 5 days a week.

Follow this for 10 days. Your sugar should be close to normal

[dheerp]

11.2

when u have lived till now for eating its hard to 'leave' eating now😁

after all can we indians live without roti and rice.

lemme go thru all posts as u mentioned.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to dheerp]

I will be sending you a message soon, dheerp . It's okay. Please look for it.

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to dheerp]

Check your PMs (private message) dheerp

[dheerp]

champak bhai samjhi gayo tame shu kewa mago cho😁

25 varas gujarat ma rahi ne dhokla fafda bhajiya dalwada khawani adat etli vhale to na jaye na malik😂 thankfully sweets khawani adat nathi.

let me take first steps on recovery

btw strange but my legs seems shrinking. muscle loss due to diabetes?

[Activity2004 Administrator in reply to dheerp]

Do you have leg pain?

[dheerp in reply to Activity2004]

no leg pains

[Activity2004 Administrator]

Hidden ,

Not everyone is not the same. One thing may be okay for someone, but the same thing may not be okay for the rest of the group.

[Activity2004 Administrator]

Can you please explain further?

[Hidden]

Hello dheerp

Welcome

Since you take eggs then breakfast should be eggs fried in butter or ghee.

Some sprouts. Mushrooms. non starchy veggies

Over night saoked nuts like almonds. Walnuts . peanuts

Lunch can have one chappati with ghee & lots of non starchy veggies

Snack can have nuts

Dinner can have 1 roti & non veg & non starchy veg

No issue with non veg as its proteins & fats.

No need to go zero carb but can reduce it

In mumbai if u want to have junk food then take only Wada & discard the Pav.

Can take besan bhajia. But these are made with rancid & multiple times used oils & hence causes inflammation & oxidised lipids which are dangerous.

May be once in 6 months is ok. But not regularly

I stopped wada pav for almost 2 years now after diagnosis.

Once in 6 months i also have a wada in the streets of Mumbai....

[dheerp in reply to Hidden]

would not HF diet increase weight which is already 100kg.

bhajiyas i meant like kanda bhaji(not potato) ,home made

amazing control on wada paav there 😂😂

any ideas on roti substitue like bhakri, etc i mean eating sabjis or non veg by themselves would be tough

[Hidden in reply to dheerp]

Have 1 roti

Or switch to keto roti made of almond flour + coconut flour.

With low carb ... high fats will not cause weight gain

[dheerp]

nothing of that sorts

[dheerp]

how about below foods.

1) paneer : from milk shops or amul frozen paneer

2) milk - is it high carb?

3) cheese- amul cheese

4) butter- amul butter

5) mayonaise - home made or from supermarket (for making salads like chicken or lettuce)

6) tea coffee- zero milk/zero sugar or milk/zero sugar.

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

paneer good

milk limited quantity ok...(cow milk full fat)

cheese doudega (mera personal experience is not good with exotic cheese..apana amul is good)

Amul butter se amul ka cream leke usko ferment karo...

mayonaise... ask Hidden i never tried...

tea coffee chalega...without sugar

[Hidden in reply to cure]

I dont take mayo... store purchased one could have soy in it.

Best avoided or made at home with the help of youtube

[dheerp in reply to cure]

and dahi. packed , from dairy shop, or make at home if ok to have

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

have home made... use Chakka.... toch shrikhandachya adhicha... dahyatun pani kadhun taklela...

[ramana42 Volunteer]

Welcome.Firstly,you have done right by joining this forum. Interaction with other diabetics will help find a way to manage your diabetes.

Second,knowledge about diabetes is paramount.Unless you know everything about your enemy,you cannot workout a strategy to defeat and manage it.

A diabetic is somewhat personal.Unlike other medical conditions which respond to similar treatments uniformly,diabetes behaves uniquely because each individual is unique and hence you have to depend on yourself to manage your diabetes,of course with help from doctors, dieticians,other successful diabetics etc.You can also learn from other diabetics by observing what went wrong with them.

Diabetes management depends on four distinct areas--diet,exercise,lifestyle,and medicines.Diet plays a predominant role.We should be keenly aware what we are eating,how much we are eating and how much we maintain discipline in timing of each meal.My experience tells me that you have to give up processed sugar more or less completely.Same goes for sugar rich fruits like dates though they are otherwise rich in needed nutrients.You should understand what glycemic index and glycemic load means.They tell you how sweet stuff is and how much of each item you can safely eat,like you should be frugal in eating carb rich rice,wheat,root vegetables like potato,beet,carrot etc while you can be liberal while eating vegetables and greens.Alcohol is best avoided.It skews up your sugar levels and adds unnecessary calories to your system.

You have got to to exercise regularly.Play a game like shuttle or go for a walk or swimming.Aim for at least 40 minutes of daily exercise.It will not only help you to manage diabetes but also maintain other parameters of your health.Exercise and music are a great combination.

Diabetes demands discipline. Late nights,irregular meal habits,binge drinking etc are not good.They may increase your stress levels and disrupt your metabolic cycles.

Lastly,in spite of all the discipline and what not, you still have high numbers,you have to consult a good diabetes doctor and act strictly as per his advise.You have to monitor regularly at home and go for quarterly/ annual reviews without fail.Diabetes is a progressive disorder.That means it gets worse as you get older.So,your aim should be to not only control the numbers but also reduce the medicine doses,of course with medical advise.

All the above gyan looks tough,but believe me,it is achievable.Diabetes will be there with you life long ,so better learn to live with it.No panga.

[sanjayg2412]

1. fIX TIME OF EATING AS PER HUNGER

2. WALK AS MUCH BODY ALLOWS WITH SOME STRAIN

3. NEVER SIT IDLE DO ALL WORK AT HOME WITHOUT HELP OF WIFE/SERVANT

4. DO YOGA REGULARLY.

5. FIX MORNING YOGA AND EVENING RUNNING/WALKING

6. POSTPONE EATING SCHEDULES FOOD IF YOU DONT FEEL HUNGER

[alwaysoptimistic]

See,if it helps: forums.dlife.in/search/1441...

[dheerp]

hi all got my lipid profile , all levels in desirable range except serum LDL cholestrol 37.2 which is low.

interpretations considering i am obese at 97.4 KG

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

LDL 37.2?? are you on statin??? or regular alcohol consumption??

[dheerp]

not at all . no medications(not even for diab) , no smoke no alcohol. low LDL is bad?

visiting diab specialist tommorow.

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

hmmm on cholesterol shrisamarth is master.... but naturally so low LDL means some liver problem....

[dheerp in reply to cure]

oh maybe shrisamrth ji will be able to help out here if he reads.

serum chol 95

serum trigly 114

serum HDL chol 35

serum LDL chol 37.2

seeum VLDL chol 22.80

chol/HDL chol ratio 2.71

ldl chol/ HDL chol ratio 1.06

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

as far as diabetes is concern TG/HDL is most important... cause cause of T2 is insulin resistance...

and TG/HDL is good indicator for insulin resistance.. which in ur case is above 3...

it should be below 1.5..near to 1

[dheerp in reply to cure]

kay dokedukhi ahe raav, ata tela khali kasa odhaycha

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

hahahaha varun ek lath maraychi ani khali padaycha...dusre kay...

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

kidding... but increase HDL... eat more good fats.... reduce carbs...

carbs are responsible for TG...

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

ofcoz u need to address ur liver function...

get liver scanned for fatty liver...

[dheerp in reply to cure]

😂😂😂 not done insulin report. ajun konte report karayche 😲 fasting kela 234 ani PP 301, HB 11.1, accucheck also started to monitor, similar levels on that too

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

paristhiti vait nahi...

Tumhi jarur paristhiti war mat karu shakal.... thoe praytna kara... i came back from HBa1c 13.4

[cure Administrator in reply to cure]

however..once u get your all reports with fasting insulin...and fasting sugar... other forum member will help u to find out ur IR... or u can also google about HOMA calculator...

[shrisamarth Volunteer in reply to dheerp]

If you are not on statins then reason for low cholesterol could be genetic. Hypocholesterolemia.

Some problem with cholesterol synthesis. Dietary intervention will not help.

[dheerp in reply to shrisamarth]

ohk so in that case should HDL be increased by taking LCHF ?

i mean is there a issue with chol levels

[shrisamarth Volunteer in reply to dheerp]

Low carb will help in improving BS control and your weight. But doubt how much it will help to improve your lipids.

[dheerp in reply to shrisamarth]

ok so one side i will be controling diab other side lipids wil go to toss🤣🤣

[shrisamarth Volunteer in reply to dheerp]

What about your parents'

lipids ?

Your thyroid levels ?

[dheerp in reply to shrisamarth]

no idea both passed away. as far as i know none of them possibly were diabetic.however my father was obese. mother was heart patient(hypertension).

have not testef thyroid levels . doc appointment is next saturday wherein he has asked me.to come with glucose levels(f nd pp)

s potassium and TSH levels reports.

[dheerp]

greetings everyone,

i met diabetologist today, his prescription.

tab glynase mf

tab eternex m(20/500)

tab pioglar(7.5)

tab tellzy rs (4010)

above ok?

[dheerp]

hi everyone

on above meds sugar levels ging down have altered diet slightly.still experimenting

Today my fasting was 105

after eating bfast of 2 egg , amul mozrella cheese, amul cheese slice 1,1 glass of tea with milk no sugar 3-4 badam

1hr 119

2hr 127

comments pls is that a good bfast yo continue.

[cure Administrator in reply to dheerp]

congratulations... keep it up....

[dheerp]

🤣 readings on medication. btw anyidea how much points(mg/dl/ )1 gm of carb raises.

[dheerp]

true i do have lot of fat around the middle