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CURED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ralh
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In reference to my previous post "SWISS DOUBLE STEM CELL" ,I am extremely happy to update here that my friend reports indicate he has defeated diabetes. Yes, he is cured now. I will start therapy soon. His reports, both previous and new are attached here as proof.....

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Ralh

I don't know how to attach 4 more photos with this post? only one is possible at a time.

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

Here,multiple images posting facility is not available at present.I have suggested our respected Admin for the same and waiting for positive response.

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

I have posted four other posts as label "CURED" containing other four reports. Kindly go through all posts, and discuss/comment here in this post... Thanks...

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Ralh

I am also diabetic and suffering more mentally than physically with this, so not trying to play with feelings of others because I know how it hurts. I am posting this because it has happened before me.

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alwaysoptimistic

All images are not clear enough!

Has he passed OGTT?

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

Not done ogtt

but hba1c is reduced from 12.5 to 5.8, while taking refined suger and carbs, about 12- 15 rotis a day, all indications of complications such as frequent urination, headache, leg pain etc. gone. And he says he is feeling 100% fit.

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

Posting zoomed screenshot in a while

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

HbA1c 5.8 is almost OK.But any spike over 140 is harmful.So,he must go for OGTT.If he passes the same then only he can be declared as cured.

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

You are right. But my non diabetic family members are having fasting at around 80 and after food sometimes 150-160 (on home testing meter). I think it is due to the carb rich Indian diet.

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

A non-diabetic can not spike over 140.

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

If a person's fasting is well within limit say 80 and some times random goes beyond 140, is he diabetic or prediabetic or non-diabetic? Just for knowledge.

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

Beyond 140 what?150,160,......??

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

150-160

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

Pre-diabetic!

But any spike over 140 is harmful.

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

thanks for discussion

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

You are welcome!

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

But I am very 2 amazed to see the improvement in this curious case....

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

Are you too??

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ShooterGeorge in reply to alwaysoptimistic

Some CGM study reports referred here earlier have data to the effect that BS of healthy subjects also exceeded 140 sometimes.

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shrisamarthVolunteer in reply to Ralh

A non-diabetic will not spike above 120 and after 2 hrs he/she will return to near baseline levels.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to shrisamarth

Reported CGM studies do not corroborate the statement that non-diabetic will not spike above 120.

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Ralh

screen shots can be viewed more clearly by rotating mobile.

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

+ of new posts

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Ralh

I am 99.99 % sure, but will ask him to perform ogtt anyway....

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Ralh

what about hba1c?

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

It is almost OK.Better,if it is lesser.

Many LCHF followers at dlife.in are below 5.

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

It is on higher limit because his 3.5 month ago was 12.5. It started improving from that level. And also without medicine or any restriction except only refined suger.

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

And taking refined suger in milk, taking sweets during marriages, as this is marriage season, eating everything from last 1 month, i.e after 2.5 months from starting therapy

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ShooterGeorge in reply to Ralh

HbA1c 5.8% is fine but not sufficient to claim cure, @Ralh.

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Ralh in reply to ShooterGeorge

I know it should be less than 5.7, but from 12.5 to 5.8 within 3 months and improving with more time.

Thanks sir for paying attention

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ShooterGeorge in reply to Ralh

Thank you also.

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btshah

Rath

Kindly let me know what is this SWISS DOUBLE STEM CELL therapy is. Where can I get it done? What is the duration and what is the cost. If you can send me a PM at

xyz_co_ordinator@yahoo.com

I will be obliged.

Bipin Shah

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Ralh

It is from iphytoscience company, a MLM Firm. Product name is Double stemcell. Duration is 3 month. They claim it works on cellular level, repairs and regenerates new cells.

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

Beware of duplicate products at online sites such as amazon etc.

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Harikishan in reply to Ralh

Have you started it. What is the cost for 3 months. How to take it. Give me the address and contact numbers of the supplier. Pl also give me email ID and contact number of your friend who was cured with this therapy. My email ID:harikishanm5@gmail.com Mobile:9949539146

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Ralh in reply to Harikishan

starting within a week.

I am also like one of you.

Go to website iphytoscience.com to know more info

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Harikishan

Gone through the website. Nothing specific about diabetic cure through double stem cell

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Ralh in reply to Harikishan

It is not specific for diabities but works on the overall body system. One patient got rid of piles in extreme condition. One wife of MBBS doctor reversed diabeties which is known case to me

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mka54 in reply to Ralh

So why don't you reveal to the public . Every good and helping matters are not for commercial sake but for welfare sake. Public will bless you and will become great blessings for you .

common !!!! I am 64 years . Help me . my email is [m.ka54@live.com].

thank you

M. K. Acharya

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Ralh

Anup g you are respectable and inspiration to many many people including me. LCHF is great too. You are a knowledge bank of information and guide for many.

I am neither MLM agent nor have any desire to get benefit by playing with sentiments of group members, I discussed this for welfare reason only. I don't insist to anyone to use this therapy but fully confident of using it myself.

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alwaysoptimistic in reply to Ralh

Better if you share your own experience!

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

Sure,

I will report my experience with proceedings

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suramoStar

@Anup

"but hba1c is reduced from 12.5 to 5.8, while taking refined suger and carbs, about 12- 15 rotis a day, all indications of complications such as frequent urination, headache, leg pain etc. gone. And he says he is feeling 100% fit." Do you agree that he eats 12-15 roties i.e. > 300 g carbs and still his a1c is 5.8 ? And he has got rid of all symptoms !!. Is / was he a D ever except a1c > 12 ?

Is that a miracle caused by " swiss double stem cell therapy " ? That contains grape and some other fruit germ cells. I'd tried it despite knowing that with the thought that at the best i'd lose money. I have not been benefited a bit even. Is it a gimmick to sell the product ?

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Ralh in reply to suramo

@suramo,

pls. Answer some of my following queries:

1.Is it possible for a person to be having hba1c of >12 and not to be diabetic?

2. Have you tried it from iphytoscience from pune through MLM or purchased online?

3. What was your duration of taking double sc?

4. What was your procedure to take it i.e. Timing and frequency?

5. How much bucks did it cost you?

waiting for your comment.....

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suramoStar in reply to Ralh

Ralh

Sorry bro if i have hurt you.

1) yes. D

2) i have already stated in my posts long back how i fooled myself despite knowing that a fruit stem cell can't regenerate human beta cells. But i took a chance least i got cured. I was supplied initially by a doctor friend and then bought online from amazon which you say sale fake product. But i didn't find that.

I don't like to torture my brain by remembering useless things so i can't tell you what was the dose i took. I think i spent around 5000 rs in total.

When auto / homologus human stem cells are yet to regenerate beta cells it'll be too much optimistic to get it done by fruit stem ??? cells.

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Ralh in reply to suramo

@ suramo, I am not at all hurt by any of your comments but welcome you for sparing your time to discuss and respond. You have your own experience and I have posted what I have seen. Thats fine.

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Ralh in reply to suramo

@ suramo

although it is 100 logical to see anyone with doubt who claim to cure diabeties but we all are here to get benefit from each other. I have posted this case with reports and have seen the proceedings live and my doubts got cleared and only then I am sharing this case and also got ready to try it on myself. Is there only one reason for me to share this due to monetry benefits or marketing?

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Ralh in reply to Ralh

pls. Read 100% logical

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priyankaupadhayay22 in reply to Ralh

how your friend cured .

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Ralh in reply to priyankaupadhayay22

pls go through the post completely and also search other posts having reports named CURED.

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suramoStar in reply to Ralh

Ralh

If someone can digest 12-15 wheat roties without raising one's bs he must not be D. Cure as you claim with fruit stem cells is indigestible to me. That comes to around > 400 gm of carbs from roties only. Unbelievable or miraculous.

Anup is yet to answer my concerns.

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mka54

Simply , whole articles from years is nothing but alluring with so many manipulated recipe and all with the purpose of commercialization , for earning money . My request is to make a recipe authentic with proven results . I am 64 years old and tried about 20-30 types of company's churna / tablets ( Ayurvedic) and also Homeopathic medicines. None is effective. They might be effective a little but can not replace the Alopathic tablet with Ayurveda /Homeopathic ones., if controlled by a diabetologist.

Whole chapter of every one is just to add an article , but no concrete replacement of alopathic medicines have been noticed. No CURE word has been claimed authentic..

Please come out , if anyone accepts this challenge !!!!!--- but for the welfdare for the human beings .Don't worry for awards , he /she will be awarded automatically by the recognized organization.

your views are invited.

M. K. Acharya

[m.ka54@live.com]

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ShooterGeorge in reply to mka54

@mka54,

My FBS 118, PPBS 197 IN 2006. Nowadays both are below 100 with-normal diet. HbA1c 5.0, FSI 5.41. My claim is that 'am remaining cured for the last seven years (2009-2016).

Related questions are welcome.

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Ralh in reply to ShooterGeorge

I beleive your words , you have lived with the transition only you know. Through this post I have come to the conclusion that many non-beleivers in cure, will never accept it.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to Ralh

@Ralh, I can publish lab reports if you want & if the admins permit to do so.

Regarding 'accepting', it had been so with several scientific advances. Do you know that even now (21st century) there are people who do not accept vaccination!!!

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suramoStar in reply to ShooterGeorge

ShooterGeorge

Sorry i have forgotten but please tell me if you are taking any medicine ?

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ShooterGeorge in reply to suramo

@suramo, I do not take any medicine for Diabetes.

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suramoStar

@Anup

mka54

Anup. Yaar aap ka virus abhi tak gaya nhi.

Well any ayu/ homeo etc medicines can help you in preventing D related organs damage to some extent. I.e. cinnamon help preventing cvd/ chd etc. No medicine addresses the basic issue of D i.e. help overcome IR and bcf.

As far as lc** is concerned it's phylosophy is that since we can't assimilate carbs we have to take carbs to the extent we can consume sugar from our blood. And to compensate for the calorie deficit we have to add good fats. We are thus managing our D. And if we can reduce our IR we can control bs and prevent complications.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to suramo

suramo my latest FSI is 5.41 with both FBS & PPBS below 100. It is felt that LWMDR helped me overcome IR & bcf impairment.

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suramoStar in reply to ShooterGeorge

ShooterGeorge

Great bro. And thank you for sharing your results. Let others who are on lwmdr come up with their results. If they also have improved their numbers to a great extent nearing a nonD value it will open another port / avenue towards the reversal / control of D. That will add to our fight with D.

By the way do you take dairy products ? If yes, in what form and how many times in a day ?

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ShooterGeorge in reply to suramo

suramo Usually I don't use Butter/Ghee directly. Right from childhood it is so. Milk is taken as part of Coffee/Tea once/twice/thrice a day but not regularly. Taking whole milk is rare. All these are right from childhood.

Even though hailing from a reasonably well to do family, we were not in the habit of overeating. At the age of 28 (when I was a class 1 gazetted officer & got married) my weight was 72kg, height was & is 172 cms.

During the late 80's & early 90's weight came down to 52kg by one-meal-a-day routine. It rose to 72kg again, shortly after reverting to usual diet.

After my first angioplasty/stenting, diet restrictions & Statin meds reduced wt to 60 gradually but feel stronger now with BMI near lower limit and BMPI above 1.

I sleep only 8 hrs a day, night only; occasionally talk to school/college students for 2.5-3.0 hrs continuously & in standing postures on topics such as mosquito control, environment protection, waste management, energy conservstion etc (MEANS I AM HEALTHY :-) )

After all "AT THE END OF THE DAY HEALTH/STRENGTH IS WHAT MATTERS", IS IT NOT?

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suramoStar in reply to ShooterGeorge

ShooterGeorge

Great.

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suramoStar

Anup

that's fine. But taking 400+++ carbs, D and a1c 5.8. Frankly. Ye baat kuchh hajam nhi hui.🙏🙏

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alwaysoptimistic

Waiting for the days when people will come at HU with a claim for speedy cure of diabetes using tri,tetra,penta etc stem cells instead of double stem cell!

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Ralh in reply to alwaysoptimistic

Good joke alwaysoptimistic, but mine was not

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mka54

Very true !!! Except diet control/management , no absolute cure has yet been found for diabetes.

thank you , regard you and salute you for such support.

Thanks once again

M. K. ACHARYA

DELHI

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saxenaen

I am a follower of Sir Shooter George...and enjoying LWMDR and always happy with my BS level ....which never beyond limits from the date I used LONG WHEAT. Yes off course some restrictions are there but body is yours and yourself better knows how to drive the engine. 😀😀😀 Good luck all of you.

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ShooterGeorge in reply to saxenaen

Thank you @saxenaen. Hope you are fine and better as time passes.

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saxenaen in reply to ShooterGeorge

Sir I am fine ..thanks for your concern. I was in shift duty from last two years so was not able to follow LWMDR strictly as per your guidelines but tried at my level best to follow. But BS reading were all in limits. Now I am in General Shift duty and following LWMDR as per instructions.....I don't know I a cured or not but readings are always in limit and I decided I will eat long wheat once in a day for long life beacuse other parameters like lipid are also well controlled from this magic wheat. Thanks

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ShooterGeorge in reply to saxenaen

@saxenaen, Thank you for the update. Please try to get FBS, FSI & LIPID PROFILE tested. It will throw light on how close is cure or is that milestone already reached & can go for OGTT.

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