My daily routine..

[cure]

ok friends.....at 14th Jan 2016 my Hba1c was 13.1

and on 26th July 2016 it came down to 5.9..

First I will give you my daily routine ...and then I will post what I think about diabetes...

NOTE: I am not medical professional....not even engineer...just a commercial person like most of you...

Plz do not go by words....I am writing here the experiments done by me..and what I understood...Plz do not trust my words...you do your experiments yourself and find out what is suitable for you.

Here is what I take :

1- Every night I soak a teaspoonful methi dana/fenugreek seeds plus kalounjee/nigella sativa powder.(Roast Nigella sativa before grinding the same)And drink that water and eat those fenugreek seeds and powder empty stomach.

2- Every night I soak cinnamon powder in half cup of milk,in the morning just boil the same add tea powder and drink that tea after consuming fenugreek and kalounjee.

3- Then I go for walk.About 5 kms in 50 mts.

4- around 9.30 I take breakfast..any sprouts or palak smoothie or egg omelet (3 eggs with yellow fried in home made ghee).And 4 almonds plus 4 pistachios and a cup of cow milk.

5- carry lunch to office.Morning breakfast keeps me full till 2.30 PM.For lunch I carry

1.5 chapatti of long wheat(long wheat 5 KG mixed with 250 Gms of fenugreek seeds).Plus any sabjee+ 8 nos coccina indica(tendly/ivy gourd) and one single clove garlic (this is special variety of garlic.you may google for same) plus pickled curcuma amada and curcuma longa.Just before lunch I take 20 ML of Jamun sirka mixed with full glass of plain water from patanjalee.

6-evening I eat either 2/3 cubes of amul cheese or half coconut or fistful charoli/Chironjee/Buchanania lanzan or about 100 Gms of home made butter.

7 - dinner same as lunch.

Not touched any fruit for last 6 months

Medicines- Metformin 500 mgX2

After lunch 400MG e vita+shilajeet(patanjalee)+coq10 100 MG(vitasonic)-Just started since one month.

After dinner Supradyn +c vita 500 MG

This is my daily diet. in between I was out of station for about 20 days...so was not able to consume long wheat or any of above mentioned herbs.Also for last one month owing to tour and then rains was unable to go for walk.

[Mahendra37]

I didn't understand or know what's plus pickled curcuma amada and curcuma longa. Where Jamun Shirka is available ?

[cure Administrator in reply to Mahendra37]

Curcuma amada=ambe haldi ...curcuma longa= haldi

Jamun sirka/Jamun vinegar is available at all patanjalee stores all over India

[Mahendra37 in reply to cure]

Thanks

[Hidden]

Good diet and scheduled properly @cure

Why not use vco which will help boost metabolism and maybe further down the BS?

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

hmm....guess what???? I am getting addicted to coconut .....and butter....lol.....

[karch]

well explained and clear like glass ...thanks ...its a big help

BTW "full glass of plain water from patanjalee" ....when did Patanjali started selling water and whats miraculous in Patanjali water for diabetics

[cure Administrator in reply to karch]

are nahi karch

I mean Jamun sirka from Patanjalee.....water toh Pune water is best.....No need of RO here....

But Just now back from Amboli....Visited River Hiranyakeshi ...the river starts from that place....it is in sacred grove ..... so many rare herbs...in that entire area many water falls....and water is just pristine.And tasty....may be those herbs trees....and untouched flora is making it so tasty.

[karch]

Hi Cure,

your progress is inspirational ...I am going to share your story with my friends

[cure Administrator in reply to karch]

sure karch no probs..but yar....tell them....do your own experiments...find out what is suitable for them....

But I am sure....this diabetes can be managed without medicines.

[cure Administrator]

@anup this high fat diet is addictive.....very tasty....lol

for last one month before my last blood test...owing to travel and then rains I was also not following my walking schedule.

[norreal]

I have experienced similar feat through diet and exercise without use of Metformin.

[cure Administrator in reply to norreal]

Great norreal plz share your experiment and experience for the benefit of members...also your daily diet.

Between after one month I am planning to discontinue metformin.

[Hidden]

Diet is good what is your FBS and PPBS.

What is 400 mg e vita and c vita 500mg is it vitamin E and Vitamin C If vitamin e what purpose you have taken Vit E and what is the drug name of Vit E and vit C

[cure Administrator in reply to Hidden]

On home meter I get 95/97...and PP after lunch 130/135......after dinner 140/170

Random 90.

On this day when checked at lab...it was 99 FBS and 135 PP

[Searching60]

Thank u so much dear shrI cure.it's a tremendous feat. Very well articulated for ppl with diabetes taking baby steps in the field of lchf&long wheat.

U have very judiciously combined the two

I.m sure besides me many more will benefit in their fight &get more resolved &as u said in many posts one has to be swan to find the best pearls for oneself.

Thanks &best always..May we all together win the war& .pls keep on posting.

Thanks karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Thank you Searching60

Sure we all will win....just one needs faith on what he is doing and patience .

Let us see how this I will be able to keep for next few years....

If I am able to maintain this for next three years...(why three years?? lol no answer) I think then I don't have to bother again....

[Searching60]

JUST one query. I.m loosing too much weight lost8/9kg in last 6-7 months since I was diagnosed with &last 3-4 month staring on lchf .so the family pitches on together says why is it WY u look terrible with all the wt loss.

I have no other medical conditon. A female of 60 yrs with hb1ac of 7.1 in Jan 16.now down to 6.1 in April. Want to bring it down further but this wt loss is a Cicero with family.

Any tips on that pls karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Searching60

I am not medical professional....do not have any study or done any experiments on this....Rather I am over weight....now 5.10" with 92 KG.

when diagnosed about 6 months ago was 106 KG.Since then lost about 14 kgs.

So losing weight was boon for me.

Still what i feel that you should check your TSH levels....it is always velevated when you are on LCHF diet....

May be @anup will be able to suggest something here.....some supplements like iodine will help you...

But one thing here.....whatever little information revealed here....you can see the way you lose your weight and getting reduction in you HBa1c.

So moment you gain weight....there will be risk of elevation of your HBa1c.

Are you practicing doctors....or research fellow?? which subject??

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Sorry for delay in reply as I.m travelling ..can u give me ur email I'd pls (.if not a bothe)r.so we can converse.

thanks &best always Karina

Difficult to maintain diet while travelling .one tends to cheat

[ejaji in reply to cure]

Any idea where one can get iodine supplements (or brand names)? They don't seem to be available at the local chemist shops.

[cure Administrator in reply to ejaji]

ejaji

I am not medical professional.....so really do not have idea about this.... you refer to cims book available at good medical shop

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Cure

lol.....Elevated tsh means hypothyroidism .hypothyroid will increase weight and not lose.

Searching60 need not worry too much about her weight loss. When D gets under control your sugar levels come down. That reduces body edema. You lose water/ fluid from your body and you lose weight.

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

hmmmm but when you go low carb...ur TSH levels goes up...but at same time u lose weight... why so suramo ???

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

@Cure

simple. Hypothyroidism takes long to increase your weight.

Here a different situation. As your bs falls tissue edema starts resolving. Can you imagine the quantity of total fluid in a nonD? Well in a normal person kidneys filter 170 litres of fluid daily and all that filtered fluid except 1.5 to 2 liters that we pass in urine gets absorbed. Now imagine how much fluid we diabetics must be storing in our body. But that doesn't mean we have 170 l fluid in our body.

In short the loss of body weight is because we lose edema fluid.

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

So at the end we will gain weight with LCHF diet???

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

cure

Don't jump to the conclusion. It's an interplay of many factors. Well when you have reversed your D completely you should check thyroid function tests.

Aur aap ko weight kyon gain karna hai. Weight gain in thyroid is a pathological condition. I don't think you would allow that.

[zakir-375]

Thanks cure, I impressed your efforts against diabetes, if possible can you talk on whatapp?

[cure Administrator in reply to zakir-375]

zakir-375

I am not on whatsapp....

There is no issue to talk on mobile....but will be better if we talk here...and discuss...so everyone will get some additional points...

Thanx for your wishes...

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Cure

use whatsapp. You will find it very useful.

[kanchan13]

Congratulations on your results !

What is long wheat inHindi?

Is it jaun ?

[cure Administrator in reply to kanchan13]

kanchan13

Nope....certainly not jau....its ancient grain...in maharashtra it is called khapali gahu....easily available.....

I am really sorry but don't know what they call it in north India....

[kanchan13 in reply to cure]

I believe it is a almost red coloured wheat.

Got a reference of somebody in Pune who has it.

In fact have even placed an order for it.

Will ask the local baniya in Mumbai too.

Earlier had tried jaun, that was not a good expeiment !

Thks

[cure Administrator in reply to kanchan13]

kanchan13

alongwith long wheat i am also using other things

like haldi achar..dalchini...kalunjee...methi dana...

also following lch*

[cure Administrator in reply to kanchan13]

Thank you kanchan13

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Sorry for delay dear cure as I.m travelling.can u give me ur email Id if possible.

While travelling one is forced to cheat so am afraid to use the glucometer😊

If @anup or any of our esteemed veteran members can guide me how not to loose more wt.then I.ll be obliged .thanks

Best always karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Searching60

Hmmm guess similar problem was faced by karch ...may be he will be able to guide u

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Hi karch. Can u pls enlighten as to how did u stabilized ur weight while on lchf

Did u find samba wheat in Delhi. I couldn't.

Thanks karuna

I stay in North of delhi

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Searching60

I am so sorry....I really do not know what this wheat is called in North India...and hwere to get it in Delhi.... but by any chance if you visit Pune....or if you have some one in Pune...I will surely help you to procure the same....

And about weight.......hmmm....I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo happy that I am loosing weight

I don't want to get it stabilize at moment...let it reduce....

But....I am seeing elevation in my TSH levels....up to maximum marks...

It is said when you reduce carbs....TSH goes up....

I really do not have answer for this....

May be ashwgandha will help you in this regards... I am not sure....

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Is it khapli wheat cure?

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

mahaorganic.in/product/whea...

[cure Administrator]

thehindubusinessline.com/ec...

Look here......they are trying to alter this wheat also.....

[vgpalrv in reply to cure]

dear@cure congrats on your success story on lchf diet and diabetic health. very insipring.

I request all seniors in this forum to prepare a FAQ and a glossary of terms used in our LCHF forum. Because every time new persons put questions here about lchf terms and lchf diets . Similary I too got doubt about VCO if I am correct virgin coconut oil. What is the difference between availble coconut oil and VCO and where should i get, any precaution we hv to follow before consuming . I hope shri anup or any other senior may also give reply this things.

[cure Administrator in reply to vgpalrv]

Thank you vgpalrv

[Searching60]

Eeeeeks.why can.t somethings be left as they are.

I.m worried.travelling so had to eat hotel food was careful but glucometer gives a reading of 202😥after 1hr 25 mins.

[shrisamarth Volunteer in reply to Searching60]

Even if you are travelling, it is not impossible to restrict carbs. Take only sabjis and salads when you eat in hotels. Preferably paneer dishes. You can carry with you nuts like almonds, walnuts and peanuts. Make cheese regular part of your meals. You can get cheese cubes easily in most of the towns.

[cure Administrator in reply to shrisamarth]

shrisamarth

Today checked in Gultekadi market about 'Red rice'. As expected....

No one knows....

but there is one more rice variety they showed..... called 'Mutta Rice'/Rosemary rice.

Current rate is Rs.40 per KG

here is info about same

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palak...

Palakkadan Mutta rice contains manganese and zinc, which can have antioxidant properties and can protect the body from damaging poisons. This variety of rice also contains vitamin B6 that helps to balance RBC in the bloodstream. It is also believed to be capable of controlling Cholesterol. Red rice is completely fat-free and can lower the risk of obesity. Because of the rough taste, only a lesser quantity is consumed every meal. Red rice is also capable of fighting asthma.

May be some other members from Kerala can throw more light on same.....

yesterday had black rice....about 2 'katori full' along with 1.5 chapatti of longwheat and goat meat curry.

After 2 hrs blood sugar was 141.

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Better she checks at 2 hrs. That is what we rely upon and that's when nonD people get to normal bs. Her reading at 1h25 min only suggests that she spikes to that level. Not very bad because even a nonD can spike upto 160 -180. What is important is the bs at 2 hours.

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Searching60

202 is bit high.....what do u eat for lunch or dinner???

What is stress level???

Have u checked your fasting insulin??

How about liver scan for fatty liver??

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Thanks cure & srisamarth for ur inputs.will be careful.was getting carried away by the low readings I was getting so it was jolt.

I had some sauted vegetables in butter& Lil rice &besan&curd curry &coffee with milk.f

Yes it is high .haven.t seen this figure from last year.

My liver scan came out OK .got it

Going to be careful.

The reading came down to 118 after an hour .

High reading really bugs .Makes me worried &sad

Thanks &best always Karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

All the best karunaji

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

have you checked message sent to you??? Searching60

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Cure sir .Msg on my fone no.or email id. I didn't get on this id karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

Just sent you email Searching60 plz check

[Searching60 in reply to cure]

Pls send on my alternate Id

[e-mail]

Thanks karuna

[cure Administrator in reply to Searching60]

i just sent you email on your same id.....just check

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Cure

lol... No private talks please about D. Let us all know.🙏🙏🙊🙊

[suramo Star in reply to Searching60]

Madam

please don't take haphazard readings unless you can interpret rightly. Or you will be unnecessarily scared or unnecessarily feel all well. Please follow scientifically.

[FRAWN]

I don't understand half of the stuff u say u r eating. Isn't 250 grams of fenugreek like 30 teaspoons. Where do u get all of that stuff

[cure Administrator]

yes 250 gms added in 5 kg of wheat....

fenugreek seeds are available here on any grocery shop.

[suramo Star]

Cure

i once again congratulate you.

Everyday we read here that some people attain good control, some lesser control and a few still struggle. I have been thinking all the time what could be the reason. Diet, exercise, stress, drugs or what.

Well since i'm of the opinion that due to our weak genes we get t2d. After a long thought i have something to suggest you all and to come to some scientific conclusion.

Let us all compare the result of our D control to BCF. You and anup are the best candidates as examples. Please share your bcf with us so that we can draw some conclusion. @Anup please start practice of finding bcf at the hospital which has agreed to cooperate you. Based on bcf i think we shall be able to make a treatment chart. Perhaps.

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

how we will measure BC function?? fasting insulin???

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

Cure

anup did that for me with homa 2. Frankly i have not learnt about it then. But fasting insulin level and fbs on the same day are required.

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

suramo u can get that calculator downloaded online...

Just search for Homa2 calculator.

The equation is fasting insulin X fasting sugar/405 aisa kutch hai....

ye 405 kidhar se aya pata nahi...guess its conversion factor for MG to DL

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

cure

I can't download homa 2. I tried today also. Wanted me to contact but i have more important business than that. Learn from you about D.

Chalo koi gal nhi. Teach me when you learn. Simple equations hi to hai.

[cure Administrator]

When last checked my fasting insulin was 10.4 and fasting sugar was 126

[cure Administrator]

Thank you AnupBanerjee I will check fasting insulin again after 4 months from Now....

[cure Administrator]

ye yar HU ka kutch bhi hota hai.... sorry

Good night

[iqbalahmet1955]

Excellent routine

[suramo Star]

Cure

see. No wonder you controlled your D. Compare with my bcf. Just 26%. Poor fellow but rich with sugar 😝😝😝😝😝😜😜😜😜😜

But your fasting insulin level should be below 10. 10 is the highest value. 2.5 for nonD. Correct me if i'm wrong.

Gn

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

nahi..they say it is anything between 2.5 to 25....it all depends on ur IR.

More IR more insulin.

when my HBa1c was 13.1...and fasting was 275..my IR was more than 3.

Now it is 1.5... now guess fasting insulin must be less....

[suramo Star]

Anup

adi baba hum ko bhi sikha do na ye calculations. I tried to learn from homa 2 but couldn't.

Thanks bro. And sorry using short cut to learn.🙏🙏🙏🙏

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

dtu.ox.ac.uk/homacalculator/

suramo

[suramo Star in reply to cure]

cure

I know. Chalo phir se try karte hai

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

A simple way to identify insulin resistance

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

In conclusion, our findings have clinical and public health implications. In clinical settings, the lipid ratio could be used as an indicator of insulin resistance. In large health surveys, it could be used to monitor trends in cardiovascular health in diverse populations. Our results add further support to the notion that TG/HDL-C and TG/HDL-C ratios may be a clinically simple and useful indicator for insulin resistance among non-diabetic adults regardless of race/ethnicity. The TC/HDL-C ratio and TG/HDL-C ratio are easily available to the clinician with every lipid profiles ordered, thus eliminating any additional costs. However, it is important to note that, if TG/HDL-C is to be used as surrogates for insulin resistance, then they predictability may differ by ethnicity. Future research is warranted to assess the predictive power of these lipid ratios for the type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, or cardiovascular disease.

[cure Administrator in reply to suramo]

goodfoodeating.com/8624/blo...

suramo

[suramo Star]

I think that's for ir. Yes. Now i remember. 405 If values in g. 22.5 If values in mmol

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[zakir-375]

The following are not available in Pakistan, please suggest alternative.

1. 8 nos coccina indica(tendly/ivy gourd)

2. plus pickled curcuma amada and curcuma longa

3. long wheat

4. 400MG e vita+shilajeet(patanjalee)+coq10 100 MG(vitasonic)

5.Supradyn +c vita 500 MG

[cure Administrator in reply to zakir-375]

zakir-375 dude... coccinica Indica is available all over in Indian continent just check pics onnet and find out local name...

Curcuma Amada mustbe aviailable there...

[zakir-375 in reply to cure]

Let me check