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The Gremlins grow with the Cranberrys 'Zombie' - in your head ;)

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Having missed - legitimately because of work - my scheduled run 6 days ago it was with mixed feelings I geared up this morning. I knew I wanted to run, I knew I could run but what I didn't know was how long should I run. It was a long break between running days.

I'm heading to graduate for the fourth time, over this last winter could not get any running in because of, not a Forecourt Post, working on a ship. So started from scratch again a few weeks ago.

Now I had just finished 7 days of literally only sitting or standing around a forecourt, not being able even to stroll more than forty or fifty paces in any direction - good thing the pay was worth it lol - so minimum exercise of any kind, no joke.

looked at my phone, the programme I'm doing went from two 8 minute runs with a three walk break.....to one continuous 30 minute run after the usual five minute warm up walk...

30 MINUTES??? WHAT!!!!

I'm only on Day 3 of Week 5 out of 8 weeks!!!

DANG! This programme sure as heck takes no prisoners!! Thank you my 'friend' who recommended it! Should have known better than to ask a Drill Sergeant what would work for someone like me coming back from a long break, some programme with no music, chatter or bells and whistle - 'just a bare stripped down no nonsense running app'

Dang! :(

Oh well - just do your best and use your head. Monitor carefully for over worked muscles and lungs and settle, if necessary for a 16 minute continuous run, if even that.

And with that in mind, plus my experience in this running lark since that first ghastly Day One, Week One in June 2016 - I did the hardest bit of any run. From the sofa to the front door and stepping outside.

Decided to go to the Park. Hadn't run there in yonks. Hate the extended leash dog walkers, 'Pram Mammies', 'four abreast on a path designed for two' chatterboxes, rollerbladers in a world of their own weaving all over the shop, etc that constantly make you zig and zag and waste precious breath telling them to shift and make way for someone else LOL

Plus - it's boring at this point - ran it consistently for years at the beginning because the advantages are - close to my humble hovel, flat and has tenth of a mile markers.

So if I have to do such a big jump in time or anything like it - I want flat, and I don't want to walk too far to get back to hh afterwards.

Started running. Was a bit cheered by the thought that at least I would run long enough to get over those accursed 'toxic ten' minutes, and was glad also that I had heaved my carcass out the door to run.

A while later I cheered myself up with the thought that "I WIN! I WIN!!" in the 'Does anyone run as slowly as I do?" category. :)

Because was I ever sloooow knocking off those tenth of a mile markers - I was indeed determined not to run too fast, but this was VEEEEEERY much slower than I thought I was even capable of, even on a not so very good day.

Two full circuits equal 1.4 miles. The running did get easier after the toxic ten (or in my case more like twelve!) and I did feel increasingly glad I had made the effort to run today. Plus - I figured I could do the thirty minutes if I really took it carefully.

So I carefully finished the run, carefully restraining myself from running just a bit further to the actual next marker because once you get the toxic ten out of your way and hit your pace the temptation we all feel is that we have a bit more left in the tank and we are a bit loath to stop....but I stopped my careful run. :)

1 point 5 miles in thirty minutes...

It did not seem possible to run any slower. God I was slow! Me! - who had previously with confidence knocked out sub 35 minute 5ks, sub 1h10m 10ks, sub 2h Ten Milers and even - gasp! ( and you bet your nelly I WAS gasping at the end lol) - a sub 5h30m FM!

That was the gremlins trying to get me to quit. Sooooo Slooooow today - cut it short, build up eeeeeaaasy (in other words, you never do go out again) You will NEVER get back to where you were running so take up something else - rowing or such (yeah, like that would actually happen)

BUT - years of experience overwhelmed those thoughts with one simple fact.

I like to run.

Yes - I would love to be faster, fitter, more graceful etc. I would dearly LOVE to be able to 'hold a conversation while running' but that simply is never going to happen because my lungs are so effed up it's a miracle I can run at ANY speed :)

So- focus on the positives.

In this very Park seven years ago I barely made it through Day One, I was in serious pain and VERY serious aerobic distress. Doing all of Day One right at the start was the most stupid thing I could have done because I was so unfit in every sense to even start the programme by running - hell I should have done it first through a 'walk slow' walk a bit faster' substitution for the actual running segments, then done it again with running.

My DREAM all through to week 5 when I first did the programme was that 'someday I might be able to run to that far marker just before that far bend in the track without having to stop'

Far marker was three tenths of a mile away :)

But here I am, having passed so many Markers and still going without feeling like I am going to pass out, the bones in my legs shattering and my lungs exploding through my nose....Dang it, might be seriously slow but I am RUNNING :)

AND - AND -what I get to do this year and am SOOOOOO looking forward to is - not the fantastic fun of the Army Ten Miler, definitely not the meatgrinder of the USMC FM, nor even the batcrap craziness of the local Thanksgiving 5k - it's that for the first time ever I get to run with family, in an iconic event :)

Two of my four miscreant kiddies are going to do the 'Jesse James Defeat Day' 5k in Northfield, MN in September with me:) Not only will I have fun with the kiddos - the race and festival and place itself are all truly amazing, a great experience I would never have if I were not a Runner :)

So - trundling around the Park thinking it's not important that I run fast in the JJD event - it's really great I get to run in it at all! :)

Buzzer goes off on phone, I have run a shade over 1.5 miles. That is certainly slow for me (not by a long shot LOL but yes, genuinely slow). I would come in under an hour in the JJDD, so not too shabby for someone in my state and age, and definitely more fun than being on the sidelines, or even worse the IC :)

Walking home, felt good about the run.....but FAR better about how I at long last got the gremlin of speed to shut up and I genuinely enjoyed fully the run more than any run I ever have, seriously.

It had felt like being a kid again - running for fun - not some self imposed not really clear 'target'.

I read in some article we should run like wee kids - they just run to run, no thoughts of times or distances. And they always have a genuine smile when they do. It's the truth :)

HOWEVER - nothing is ever so simple in adult life is it :)

I checked my phone to see what the next segment brings, and decided to write the above as a result.

You see, my dear VRB's, in my half asleep mode this morning getting ready to run I misread the screen.

It was NOT a case of 'walk 5 minutes, run thirty, walk 5"

It was ' Today we up to thirty minutes total with one run of twenty minutes. Thirty minutes might seem like a big leap from last time however blah blah blah blah"

I just registered 'one run' and 'thirty minutes' LOL LOL LOL

So - 1.5miles in 20m is not that shabby for me after all :) I must definitely have reserves of fitness I did not comprehend before :)

The HUGE lesson I have learned though is this, and writing all this because maybe it will be helpful to others, as others who post are constantly helpful to me...

If I had known it was a 20 minute run, my attitude would have been 'oh well'.

Instead, when I had given up lofty expectations, released the pressure of 'must do VERY well' from myself....started running and just ran....it went from a sense of resignation to pure unadultrated enjoyment.

35 minutes or an hour plus whatever - doesn't matter in 5k or any run from now on for me. only 'point' in running for me now in running is to Run. :)

Wishing you all many happy miles in your future : )

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Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate

Well at least you now know you can still run 30 minutes!

Even if it was 4 weeks early !

Hopefully back on track for your next run without any issues 😁🤞

EDIT:

On re reading I now realise you ran for 20 minutes 🤣

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toInstructor57

Thank you 157 🙂

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toInstructor57

Confused like me lol 😂

Granspeed profile image
GranspeedGraduate

🙄😄 I did love this! Just the sort of thing I do. Pity geography decrees we will never meet, as I could challenge you for the Slow Running Crown. 👑

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toGranspeed

Would love to run with you and my other VRB's on UK visit planned for years end :)

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply toIrish-John

You've said it! Year's end! x

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toOldfloss

Absolutely! 🙂

Jools2020 profile image
Jools2020Graduate

Love your posts! Gratifying to learn you can still run for 30 minutes even though you didn’t believe that your current fitness level was up to it!

I’m also a (very) slow runner. With the occasional burst of speed just to show I can if I want. Actually, I don’t want right now, I’ve recently returned to C25K after illness so I’m taking it very steady in Week 4. 2 x 5 minute runs and 2 x 3 minute runs. Perfect for my current fitness level.

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toJools2020

Definitely more fun to keep it fun 🙂 Bedt wishes for a full recovery J 🙂👍🏻

Joy57 profile image
Joy57Graduate

Hi John, I came back onto the forum 2 days ago when I restarted c25k. Do you remember me from 2016? I started later in June that year so we were contemporaries. And I was 57 that year, hence Joy57.

I was a regular runner till 2020 but unlike you didn't run any HMs or marathons. Now coming back after 2.5 years of illness and its treatment. I finally feel ready to run again, I've missed it. Today did run 2 of W1. Determined to keep it going and get to 30 minutes again. Anyway, it was good to see your name and read your post 😀

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toJoy57

Thank you Joy and yes - I do remember you 🙂👍🏻Mc Fitty, Cairokitten, you and I all started around the same time :)

McF drops by now and then, CK haven't heard anything from in a long time though. Remember ehen she did the progamme in her Living Room ?🙂

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RoxdogGraduate

Well done! Having just done 2 x 30 min runs for the first time in a few months, although I was still running intermittently - I hear you! I thought I knew what slow running was, but no, I am even slower!

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toRoxdog

But we get there 🙂 Onward and upward 🙂

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AlMorrAmbassadorGraduate

Great post from you John, a bit strange that app at week 5 run 3 told you to run for 30 minutes, that should have been of course 20 minutes, never mind, you are doing very well getting back to running, onwards and upwards 🏃🏾 👍

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toAlMorr

Thank you Al 🙂👍🏻

nowster profile image
nowsterGraduate

So you did the expected 20 minute run today, not a 30 minute one?

You did the same amount of running today as I did (2.4km), except I did it barefoot. 👣😆

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Irish-JohnGraduate in reply tonowster

Ues 🙂20 minutes and thought I was doing 30 lol.That's why I relaxed so much - seemed to be a case where I wouldn't make it, it being an apparent huge jump and also having not run in 7 days 🙂 And...pace turned out to right around the same as if I had been "trying" lol.

No way barefoot for me 🙂 I have to have two steel orthotics just to be able to walk pain-free. PITA going through Security ironically 😂

nowster profile image
nowsterGraduate in reply toIrish-John

Iron-ically? 😆

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply tonowster

But with "steely" determination 😂

SueAppleRun profile image
SueAppleRunGraduate

And many happy miles in yours too 😄 that was really worth reading, and well worth running for you

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toSueAppleRun

Thank you so much W&S, I always wonder when I post if I make any sense at all 🙂

SueAppleRun profile image
SueAppleRunGraduate in reply toIrish-John

Oh you really do

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toSueAppleRun

Thank you 🙂👍🏻

Oldgirlruns profile image
OldgirlrunsGraduate

Ah, the fun we have when we get the tech a bit wrong! Never mind, at least you know you’ve still got 30 minutes running in you! The rest of the plan should be a breeze! And you have your run with your children as a goal so onwards and upwards!

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toOldgirlruns

I thought it was thirty - and sooo slow - but the time was actually twenty and my pace, for me, was fine. Says a lot about how my mind works 😂

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate

Still running, still funning and with the kiddles too!

We keep on going, do we not? Slow and steady...the only way for some of us.

Have a great time my friend, and will be holding you to that promised meet up?

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toOldfloss

I will, barring some calamity, definitely be in the UK before years end. 🙂No firm plans yet, Jesse James Run is early September so sometime after that :)

Instructor57 profile image
Instructor57Graduate

So it has taken me 2 times reading this to actually realise that you did indeed run for 20 minutes!I must have been in the half sleep mode myself on the first read 🤣

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toInstructor57

Honestly, times allief with technology confuse the heck out of my runs. I can never remember what/how many segments I'm on, I get lost in my thoughts and will be thankful when I can just go out and run until I myself want to stop 🙂

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Sulley101Graduate

😂 happens to us all! Well done for persevering! At least you can now continue knowing you’ve got this nailed!

How lovely to be able to run with family. 😁 I would love to be able to do that but no one in my family runs 😞. I wish you all a fun run in September and many enjoyable practice runs in between!

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toSulley101

It's taken almost seven years for me to have them run too :)so don't give up hope 👍🏻🙂

Wine profile image
Wine

Brilliant post thank you

Irish-John profile image
Irish-JohnGraduate in reply toWine

Thank you W 🙂

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