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Hi, I did post on here a while back in July about injuries in W2R1 when I "strained/pulled" a calf muscle in my right leg. My partner and I were doing it together and I put it down to me trying to Jog (very slow) at her pace which I found difficult. Since then my partner has had to stop because of knee injury, W2 R2, but will possibly return when fully healed, in which case I said I would still encourage her with her training either by fast walking, on a pushbike or recently acquired treadmill.

I decided I possibly needed to get "Proper" running shoes and went for Gait Analysis. The shop owner went outside with me to watch me run, (their treadmill was in use), He said I had over pronation on my left leg. He then suggested I try a particular shoe, which I did and he watched me again. Just to be sure he had me try another pair and for me to assess which I felt better in. After twenty yards or so I felt pain in my right achilles tendon so stopped immediately. So back to the IC ! I returned to the shop a week later and tried the running shoes again on the treadmill and they were satisfied it had corrected my pronation. Happy days!! Ok lets do W2R2 again, Damn, my left achilles started to ache, eventually finished the run, not in pain, just this annoying ache and stiffness! However this turned out to be debilitating and I had difficulty walking. After much research I deduced it was possibly Tendonitis. Back again to the IC. After much research on this excellent forum, and other articles recommended here, I found relief by using the heel drop exercises with the knee at 45 degrees, painful at first, ( they did say to expect it) but it worked, although I didn't do all the repetitions they recommended . I then decided to buy a treadmill, (got a decent one at a reasonable price off "gumtree" ) thinking it would be less stressful on the joints etc.. This was a different experience, but after getting used to it, it proved to be a worthwhile investment with the added benefit of being able to exercise, walk or run, during the winter months when icy roads prevent us from our daily routine. (living in a rural location means our roads don't get gritted and having a balance problem anyway, adds to a difficult situation.)

I eventually re start the C25K and do W2R2 and get through to and complete W3R3, at this point I"m overjoyed! I now think W4R1 I will do outside, so as to not to rely on the treadmill too much. All went well, I enjoyed the cool morning air, the last 5Min run was a struggle, but yes, I managed it, did the 5min warm down, completed all my stretching exercises and thought, great, I can do this! A little premature I'm afraid, my knees started to hurt, both on the inside, really bad. Research again, NHS knee exercises, etc., and rest until sure it was safe to start again. Fourth rest day, clearing garage, a lot of kneeling, walking about etc., but nothing too strenuous, then, Just walking, the inside of my right calf muscle "popped' for want of a better word, and stopped me in my tracks, had difficulty getting back inside the house. Why???, I wasn't even exercising! So, RICE etc., etc.. Now, walking was putting pressure on my knees again, especially the left one, four days on I'm still hobbling about, not as bad, but very wary about anything too strenuous, I did a slow walk yesterday with Nordic walking sticks, mainly for support, and may do another today. One thing I don't understand is, when I get up in the morning, my knees feel a little better, I sit down for half an hour, then when I try to get up the pain is back again, as bad as ever and difficulty walking until I "get going"

I should say at this point I am 72, and reasonably fit, doing regular Nordic Walking for the past year, up to 10miles and over varying terrain, hills, rocks etc., mainly in the Peak District. My partner and I try to walk most days locally, and have a couple of regular routes, mainly on the flat, and vary between two and seven miles, and can maintain average walking speeds of between 3.6mph and 4mph depending on length of walk, so you can see we don't hang about! I continually read on here that avoiding heel strike helps protect knees and to take very small steps and run slowly, I've tried running forefoot, and I can't, I do take smaller steps and try to run slowly, which I find difficult, as I naturally run with a long stride, but I'm trying to do what Laura says and stop the "bobbing" up and down. I really want to do this C25K, and would love to be able to do 10K by this time next year. I have the determination, but I also have the nagging doubts, am I being over ambitious, should I stick to Nordic Walking, etc., etc.,?? I'm sorry for the long post, but I thought a full account was necessary. Any advice would be most welcome.

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Good job you’re not a racehorse!

How are those shoes now? I only know of one place that does gait analysis outside, seems strange for them to do that rather than wait for the treadmill to be available... and they normally bring a few pairs to try,

Sounds like you’ve had injuries wherever it’s possible to get them. Heel strike is huge for injuries and toe/front foot landing isn’t hugely better, mid-foot is best... and the “long stride” suggests as a walker you’re landing your foot in front of yourself, I could be wrong, which almost guarantees heel strike. It’s all the fault of the shoes we wear daily apparently, watch an under 7 run and they don’t place heels down first, by teenage they do. Anyway it takes some getting out of the habit.

You’re not too old at 72, and you have good base fitness. You mention walking pace, have you measured your running pace? It shouldn’t be much faster at this stage.

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Amazing that you're sticking with it, that's real determination!!

Sounds like a frustrating journey so far though.

Have you considered seeing a physiotherapist? They may be able to help you recover from the current injury and prevent further injury. It may be useful to get more specific diagnosis of injuries as a physiotherapist may be able to see a connection between them that we can't.

That old saying if it isn't one thing it's another thing springs to mind. How frustrating to say the least.

Your age certainly shouldn't prevent you from progressing through the program.

I would say to seek professional advise as to why the injuries keep occurring, there would appear to possibly be an underlying cause that hopefully they will be able to see and help cure ..

You have a good 10 years on me and would seem to have a good general level of fitness..I hope these problems can be sorted so you can continue progressing with C25K .

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It sounds as if you would benefit from seeing a professional, a sports physio and/or podiatrist for a proper diagnosis and treatment.

I admire your tenacity but you really should try to get to the root of the problem(s) and it would help enormously if you at least know what you are dealing with.

For reasons of solidarity I can tell you that I've also had loads of different injuries during my running life but all things being equal, there is a solution out there that will get us running again.

I wish you luck and please let us know how you get on if you decide to seek further help.

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Jell6Graduate

So determined...

This is something you clearly want to do, I would say invest in yourself and see a sports physio.

It is so easy to misdiagnose the issue based on internet research, you may well need longer on the IC than you are allowing yourself, but again, let the professional determine that.

They will also ensure you really have got the right trainers.

An initial appointment is around £50-60, and that would include a full assessment and detailed history. Follow up appointment are usually less.

I hope you get sorted out.

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Izzie3160

Hi John

I had a very similar experience, damaging my foot the first time I tried to start couch to 5k , So I went to a personal trainer; told him what I wanted to achieve and over 18 months he has given me exercises to increase my core and strengthen my ankles and legs also open the chest area , I restarted the plan this summer so far so good .

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