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Managed to drag myself out the door again tonight after not having run for a good while. It is really hard to restart once you have stopped, I can see why streaking takes that pain away.

I have been on the couch because the enjoyment seemed to evaporate and I started to get a bit fatiguey and shin splintey. Shin niggles have been something i have had since day one but never get worse than a bruised feeling. Certainly no stabbiness like some people report. But after the switch to cloud aces when my flyers died I started to feel this niggle building. I put it down to longer runs but after having tried the flyers again tonight and having a good solid run I do wonder. The flyers are definitely gone though and the ball of my foot feels bruised which was the reason I retired them, so maybe have to consider another pair.

Not a fast run tonight but felt really good and solid and despite the really annoying need to stop and poke out stones, I otherwise ran the 10k without breaks which felt like getting past another demon that was forming.

Oh and the paragliding is booked for October in Spain, I can't wait. 😁

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Glad to see you back Pink! Hopefully it is the shoes as that's a quick, easy fix. I've started feeling my lower right calf, so gotta take stock before I end up on the IC.

Great to see you've booked your paragliding, sounds amazing!


Hi Mike,

Pleased for you.

All too technical for me and you are no way just shuffling along and making it up.You are a student of a lot of this stuff and a real talent.

I am a novice and when I get myself out of this garden I am going to streak/repeat what I did shuffle a long and made it up.Yes and I made a risk assessment on non compliance to the guidance rules.

I am not injured, no time to run or gym.Woodland Workout, first exercise for a week.πŸ™ˆ

If I am out for weeks/months,

Going to do C25k in 27 days continuous+ 10K and HM in a max of 6 weeks, all of it.So second time round C2HM in 6 weeks.πŸ€”

After reading Abi’s ultra, I am seriously going to consider working up to doing the ring of fire πŸ”₯.Do the 3sections in training separately, 3day event, and put it altogether without entering the actual race.πŸ€”But prove to me I can do it and within the cut off times.

Sorry about this Mike, I miss this stuff.Good luck with your PG and your running.Keep bringing your knowledge and may you be successful in everything that interests you.

Go Mike.πŸ’₯πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈπŸ’₯

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Tbae

I feel exhausted sometimes just reading your posts sometimes Tbae. You seem to have it all worked out though. Don't take this the wrong wya, but do you suffer from ocd at all? Or do you just like to hyper organize? I am very laissez faire in my approach so find it hard to be like that but whatever floats your boat :) Thanks for the support rob :)

Tbae in reply to pinkaardvark


Guess it’s an age thing Mike.πŸ™ˆ

Running out of time.πŸ€”πŸ™ˆ

You stay chilled my friend, best way to be.

Your so layed back your horizontal.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚



Nice to have you back Pink and great run too!! I am having a few minor niggles now with my flyers, burning of ball of my feet. I thought I just needed to break them in a bit but not convinced it will improve. Shins are not feeling 100% either and I have never suffered with shin problems so just think me and Cloudflyers don't match. :) :)

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Lorijay

To be fair, the cloudflyers have been excellent(stones excepting) and the sole of foot problem is clearly because the cloud pods there have losts their springiness after 600km, you can push them down far too easily with the thumb so they no longer provide the cushion they should. But as I have found slight changes in shoes can throw things out terribly and I just don't know if that is in the head or in the leg. My cloudaces which cost Β£170 ouch feel identical to the cloudflyers walking round but I just haven't warmed to them on the road. Worrying as it means there is no way of knowing until you have done some runs in them how you will feel.

Regarding the shins I only ever get a bruising which means if the cat stands on the side of my calf or I push there it is sore, but I don't feel it running, so I was never sure if it was shin splints or something else and it didn't worry me. It wasn't until switching shoes but also running shed loads of distance that it got to be more of a slight jarring feeling in the leg when running, enough to put me off my stride(pardon the pun) and take away the fun.

I have bought a therapy band and intend to use that for some shin strengthening with toe raises, I already do 100 calf raises with 120kg 4 times a week at the gym so can't do much there.

Hope you get it sorted, and a shame you aren't size 10 or I could have your cloudflyers hehe


That’s a good return to running, well done Pink. I love my Cloudflyers, but agree, the poking out of stones, sticks, pine cones gets a bit annoying. Pffft. And oooh the paragliding thing sounds very exciting. 😊

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Sadie-runs

Thanks Sadie, yes I am very exceited. I have read two books on the subject and watched everything on youtube.. I just can't wait to get on the hill hehe. I have wanted to fly for a couple of years now and it feels good to finally have allowed myself to fulfill the urge :)


Good to see you running again Pink. Those soles do look pretty worn down, though, so hopefully a new pair will help. πŸ˜ŠπŸƒβ€β™‚οΈβ€οΈ


Welcome back. Sounds like it’s time to expand the shoe collection 😁


Nice to see you back, I knew you wouldn't stay away for long. Hopefully you can find some joy in running again. I use a r8 recovery roller that works amazing to massage my sore muscles when I've overdone it. I use it on my shins when they are tight, you just have to be aware of your shin bone and not run the roller over the bone and just the muscle. Just a thought.

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to SaskAlliecat

I do have a roller, it languishes in the garage. ANd I have one of those stick wand ones too which I have used a bit more. I have just bought some therapy bands to try those. I probably just need to accept I need to develop a regular routine for using them. They just never seem to immediately help so i find it hard to see the point. Plus I don't suffer tightness or aches other than general fatigue so it feels like there is nothing to target ie no knots to roll out.


Glad to see your back within the fold!πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈπŸ˜€


Good to see you back! Ny Flyers are wearing too. And good luck with the paragliding!

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to FlickM3

Thanks flick, I keep visiting the On Web store and getting confused between cloudflows' cloudflyers cloud X and cloud pumpkins.. God there is even waterproof Clouds and Cloudflyers now. I would just buy another pair of what I have as I know that works(stones aside) but then the others have better channels so may not have as much stone issues, but then could be totally the wrong shoe lol.

FlickM3Graduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

I have the Surfers too now, so it gets even more confusing. When they all wear out, I will replace Peaks, surfers and Flyers - the jury is out on the /flows. they are very comfortable but they don't inspire me as much as the others, and maybe that's because they have less push and spring - but who knows, they might be just the things for very long runs ... we shall see. The Surfers are very fast, i definitely have an increase in speed wearing them.

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to FlickM3

Ah the surfers have the same sole as the ventures. I find on tarmac I feel the pods move when I am walking or running, as they are just a thin layer of rubber whereas the cloudsurfer style is much more solid. I find that fine in the cloudventures when running on trail(I don't notice it), just a little disconcerting on tarmac. The surfers look very similar to the cloudventures to be honest other than colour/styling.

FlickM3Graduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

The Surfers are definitely not like the Peaks though. The Peaks are just a joy and have the snappiest response of any of my shoes.


Glad you’re feeling better. Maybe give those long distances a miss?!

You’ve put me off Ons now. I was debating but had concerns about their wear and stone issues. You’ve made my mind up.

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Tasha99

That's a shame as they are fantastic shoes and it is only really the cloudflyers that suffer the stone collection issue. It is more of an issue for me as a couple of my main routes have gravel roads, ie farm roads where they just pour lose gravel chippings down with no tarmac. The cloudflyers probably aren't really meant for offroad/gravel anyways as they are more of a road show. Mine have done over 600k and if i'd only used them on tarmac I would have gotten more out of them. The cloudaces I have don't seem to collect stones as the channels are wider.

Every foot is different though. And On are the fastest growing shoe brand out there apparently, so some of that has got to be hype/marketing. I think they may end up becoming the apple of the shoe world.

Tasha99Graduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

Awe you’ve made me want them again! Do you know what the cloudflyers are like? Apparently good for over pronation. Are they true to size too?

pinkaardvarkGraduate10 in reply to Tasha99

I'm a 9 and wear a 10 in them but the 9 would be a true fit. Just not a runners fit. With the cloud aces and ventures I also take a 10 but with a thinner sock a 9.5 may be better. So you really should try in the shop or order two pairs and send the wrong one back. You want to be able to have a thumb width at the end of your toes to stop you blistering the ends of your toes. The cloudflyers do offer the most lateral support for overpronators as far as I am aware and are a mid weight shoe.

Tasha99Graduate10 in reply to pinkaardvark

Ok cheers πŸ‘πŸ½

Hi Mike,

Got to say thank you for alerting me to myself.Sorry if I exhausted you.πŸ€”

Yes interesting I am who I have become. πŸ€”

Helpful for me to try and understand that.πŸ€”

Wow, scary, but yes all the traits are there, obsessional,compulsive, work alcoholic, perfectionist,etc,etc.

I consider myself too old to pursue anything remedial only self understanding and some control.

If younger,of course, therapy and medication with support of your core love ones.

Not now me thinks.Thank you for making me at least engage my brain.πŸ‘

When I emerge from this garden I will just run until I drop.πŸ™ˆπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

You take care Mr Horizontal.πŸ’₯πŸƒβ€β™‚οΈπŸ’₯

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