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Is bad press for bisphosphonates a danger?

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I am reading more and more on this forum how worried and scared members are to take alendronic acid and other drugs to treat osteoporosis and am concerned that many people may miss out on treating their low bone density and increased risk of fracturing their bones. My story is as follows:

2011 aged 53 and menopausal I was diagnosed with coeliac disease and my ensuing DEXA scan showed I had osteoporosis in my lumbar spine due to years of not absorbing calcium and then loss of oestrogen to protect my bones. As well as starting with a gluten free diet to repair the damage to my small intestines and taking a calcium and vitamin D supplement, I took alendronic acid for a year followed by HRT for a year. I was over the moon when in 2014 my DEXA scan showed a significant 10% increase in bone density. I then thought all was ok and that my gluten free diet plus the other interventions (impossible to know which was the most effective) had been successful and so I carried on with the gf diet and calcium and vit D plus weight-bearing exercise but stopped the drug treatments.

However, and very upsettingly, my DEXA scan in January 2017 showed that my osteoporosis was back to the levels I saw in 2011 proving the gf diet, calcium and exercise wasn't enough for me to protect the density of my bones. Reluctantly, I am back on alendronic acid, but my message is that every medical professional is saying that I should treat my osteoporosis as this is better than breaking a bone and suffering the consequences. I would like to think that my DEXA scan in two years will have improved again and I could have a break from taking alendronic acid. Time will tell.

It is important to say that I have had no adverse effects from taking alendronic acid. At least I feel I am doing all I can to try to protect my bones.

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Kaarina profile image
Kaarina

Hi there,

There is bad press about AA which frightens patients away from it. I did try AA and Risedronate and both gave me stomach and bowel problems which I thought they both might do but was still willing to try them as these are the drugs that are offered first, for whatever reason, but one is possibly cost.

If the drug does not suit, one can stop and if stopped in the early weeks it will not stay in the system too long and the side effects disappear. At least one feels one is helping oneself. It is the injections that I am fearful to have because once in the system the next injection is not for 6 months or a year (except for Forsteo which is given as a daily injection) so one feels totally helpless if suffering side effects.

There has been scaremongering about Strontium Ranelate in the past which I take as happily as one takes any medication with no known side effects to date. Now this is being withdrawn at the end of August (hopefully I can obtain one more SR prescription next month) because doctors are not offering this drug to patients or patients do not wish to take it. I am not sure what I shall be doing once my stash of SR has ended.......

in reply to Kaarina

I too tried AA and Risedronate for a short time , but stopped due to bone pain. Thankfully my Rheumatology nurse suggested trying Zolondrenic Acid infusions December 2016. All went well, and my Calcium and Vitamin D levels are fine and I will have another infusion around June/July 2018. My mum was on AA for a few years before her death in 2010.

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Southessexgirl in reply to Kaarina

I have also been taking Strontium Ranelate with no side effects and felt that out of the meds on offer, this seemed the best for me. I have been agonising over what to do next now that it is being discontinued and about what to say to the Fracture Liaison Nurse at my appointment at the end of this month, when I have to choose an alternative. I ended up talking to a nurse on the NOS Helpline, who talked through the meds with me and put the scaremongering more into perspective. She thought that zoledronic acid might be OK, especially as I had already had a pamidronate infusion in 2015 with no long term problems. She stressed that that the incidences of Osteocronosis of the jaw are very, very small and mainly in patients being treated for cancer. I didn't get on with alendronic acid but she thought, as the zoledronic acid bypasses the stomach, I should be OK. I am hoping I can have a DEXA before I make my decision, so that I can see how things stand after a year on meds - plus all the supplements, healthy eating and the exercise I've been doing! I also have a dental check up in August, and I thought it would be good to get a clean dental bill of health before I have a bisphosphonate. I am still apprehensive but feel a lot less stressed about it now.

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Kaarina in reply to Southessexgirl

Hi Southessexgirl,

The only problem with having a DEXA when on SR is that you will get a false reading.

Dexa scans are usually read based on calcium based results and because strontium is a denser mineral, the dexa results will be affected. If you have been taking strontium, it will be present in your bones. Since this element is heavier than calcium it will change the results of your dexa scan. If the person reading your test does not make the appropriate calculations (which they will probably not be aware of/be bothered to do, they could give a false reading on how dense you bones really are.

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Southessexgirl in reply to Kaarina

Hi Kaarina

Yes, I had heard that strontium would give a false reading - I was planning to mention that, when and if I'm given another DEXA scan. Hopefully, they will know what adjustment to make!

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Kaarina in reply to Southessexgirl

I too hope the appropriate calculations are made, Southessexgirl, if you are granted a DEXA scan and it ideally has to be the same scanner as your last DEXA too. Let us know how you get on. :)

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Donnacha

Hi

I agree although every one is different. When I was first diagnosed at 40 I went on diet and exercise and my bone density got worse, I was then put on HRT which stabilised things due to circumstances I was changed to AA and strangely I had a sudden 10% drop my professor was mystified! Recently I am revisiting HRT hopefully I will stabilise again. Without medication I would be in a bad way

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pattisue

My doctor is considering putting me on alendronic acid to reverse the osteoporosis a bit. I'm keen to take it if it will help. I've read a lot of people on this site are against it, and trying to avoid it at all costs. My mum had osteoporosis, and she took it for years. My friends also take it, with no ill effects. Surely something that will help your bones is a good thing, or am I missing something?

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scd2211

That has been my view which has been influenced by my GP and Gastro consultant both of whom have said that I 'need' to take it to prevent fractures. I have not knowingly broken any bones due to osteoporosis but I have lost nearly 2 inches in height and feel my abdomen is much shorter than it used to be. I was diagnosed with osteoporosis at 53 and am 58 now. I know that previously I have reversed my osteoporosis with a 10% increase in bone density by taking alendronic acid for one year followed by HRT for one year but don't know which helped the most. By stopping the treatment my bone density went back to the levels at my initial diagnosis. Rather than now be back on alendronic acid I would have preferred to be taking HRT up until I am 60 and to save the bisphosphonates for when I'm older but my GP said that HRT is not the recommended treatment to supply oestrogen to protect bones if the patient does not have any menopausal symptoms.

We need in-depth research into the impact of drugs taken to improve/halt the reduction in bone density. What is the optimum length of time to take the drugs? How to manage drug holidays? Research has recently shown a significant increase in micro cracks in the bones of those who've taken bisphosphonates - but how long had those people taken the drugs? We also need drugs to be developed which can build bone and not just slow down the rate at which bone is lost.

I would rather not be taking AA but feel I have no other option if I want to prevent bone loss and fractures. As I have already said, I suffer no ill effects from taking AA. I hope this helps.

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handmaiden

I, like many others here, also gave up on alendronic acid because of side effects. However, time between DXA scans here in Edinburgh is 5 years . I was due to have one in February this year but there is such a long waiting list I won't get it before October/November! A long time to find out if my condition has worsened!

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Gillymar

My response to you is that I thought I was ok on AA. Nobody considered my painful leg was connected and so had many different treatments for muscle problem. A new young dr sent me for an MRI scan and all was revealed. I have the specialists report stating that my fractures were AA related. I hope this helps.

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marierskine

There are now enough evidence that alendolonic acid does increase bond density but it is just making it dense and brittle and not flexible hence breaks easily, there are cases of people breaking their thigh bone just standing up, it shows on testing that your bones are denser but that is not a good result. There are loads of info on the web now so research more before taking this drug.

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Durhamthinker

I was on AA for I'd guess 5 or 6 years. I stopped when my femur broke. I was just walking into the bus station. At least I wasn't in the house alone and unable to get help! The doctors still refer to such breaks as unusual, but I'm getting to doubt it.

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MiaLee

Sadly, there are also reports of ‘rebound effects’ when one stops the drugs ( of “alarming, and rapid” bone reabsorption. ).

I think people are scared of these drugs since information has become public knowledge of serious and debilitating ‘ side effects’ from their use surfacing in now numbers large enough to not be considered ‘rare’. All dentists are now told to query patients about possible use of these drugs because of the complication of jaw bone death following root canals or dental implants because of the drug. And of course, the drugs were rushed onto the market without knowing what the long term effects would be ( the testing went no longer than 5 years before they were put out there). The concern is that the drugs make the bones brittle. Also, they suppress bone remodeling, which means when you do have a break: it is difficult to heal. All very concerning indeed. Certainly worthy of “bad press” , and doubt. Whatever happened to the oath “ First do no harm?”

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MiaLee

Odd how this post is still so prominently displayed, even after a year since it was posted. And that this is the only, single post, this person has posted. Could it be that this site is ‘sponsored’ and funded by a big Pharma company? They did fund many such sites in order to promote their drugs you know, and in order to facilitate lobbying of the government to have Medicare pay for the bone scans ( which were also developed by the same companies making the drugs). I see this post front page every time I open up this site. All other posts pass away within a week. Sorry: but they are playing with people’s health and well being, and this post is exactly the kind of thing they put out there themselves. I’m just so untrusting of them.

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mushwee in reply to MiaLee

I wouldn't put anything past big Pharma !!!

Kaarina profile image
Kaarina

This thread has surfaced again because you replied to it five days ago and again 14 hours ago. All the other replies to this thread are from a year ago.

scd2211 profile image
scd2211

Thank you Kaarina, for bringing some sense to the last post. MiaLee couldn't be further from the truth. Re-reading my post from a year ago I really do not understand how she could have come to saying what she did. I think it's a shame that in the US so many people have to be so distrusting of drug companies. I have absolutely nothing to do with pharmaceutical companies and was just sharing my experience of having to deal with my diagnosis of osteoporosis.

As with everyone on this site I am concerned about being prescribed bisphosphonates to treat my osteoporosis and would prefer not to be taking alendronic acid. I am really hoping that my next dexa scan will show that the aa has helped to reverse my bone density decline as I hope it was a contributing factor when I took it in 2012 and I had a 10% improvement in my bone density in 2014. I had also taken HRT for a year and I will never know which had made the biggest impact. I would have preferred to be taking HRT rather than alendronic acid but my GP, who I trust, said that HRT is not recommended if you are not treating menopausal symptoms. It's too late to take HRT now as I've just had my 60th birthday.

My original post was to try to redress the balance on HealthUnlocked and to put across a different view as to the treatment for osteoporosis as the majority of posts seem to be saying "do not touch bone remodelling drugs at all costs". This makes me afraid I am doing the wrong thing by taking them. Time will tell. The problem, as with many illnesses, is that there is no completely right or wrong way to treat. It comes down to individual judgement and no two people are the same.

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mushwee in reply to scd2211

Seriously I wouldn't,t trust a drug Company if I was paid to do so !!!!

Kaarina profile image
Kaarina

Spot on, scd2211. Thank you for replying after a year. It most certainly does come down to individual judgement and as you so rightly point out, no two people are the same.

i wish you well. Seasons greetings. :)

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scd2211 in reply to Kaarina

Thank you Kaarina. I wish you good health too and a good time during the festivities

MiaLee profile image
MiaLee

This is worth considering too: Ben GoldacreatTEDMED 2012

What doctors don't know about the drugs they prescribe

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