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It's a fine line between anxiety and depression. Sometimes not easy to tell the difference?

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It's a fine line between anxiety and depression. They often seem to blend together so you don't know which is which. If you have anxiety symptoms it's easy to get depressed about them.

It's usually that way round I think, if the reasons for your anxiety resolve then the depression often disperses too. But anxiety doesn't always disperse when the causes for it are no more.

High anxiety can cause over sensitisation of the nervous system. It takes time for sensitised nerves to return to normal during which time the symptoms of anxiety continue. These involve us in hugely over reacting to things that should be treated as minor worries.

A simple stomach ache has us convinced it must be a tumour. A new boss means we're going to lose our job for sure. The normal desire not to die before our time becomes a feeling of impending doom and death. The symptoms of anxiety are legion but they are all lies, none of it true. It's really sensitised nerves talking.

As you've discovered, this can last for years because the symptoms/bad feelings cause fear. The fear causes more adrenaline which causes more nervous sensitisation. Which causes more symptoms. Which cause more fear. Which causes more adrenalin and nervous sensitisation. Which causes more symptoms. You're caught in a vicious circle that's hard to break out of.

But you can break out of the self-perpetuating cycle no matter how long or how deeply you have suffered. I'll give you the short version.

Stop fighting the bad feelings. Fighting causes more trauma and tension, the very last thing to help you recover. Instead, simply accept all the bad feelings for the time being. Agree to co-exist with them for the moment. Let them come, you know they are really only nervous hiccups caused by jangled nerves. Short circuits in the system caused by anxiety overload.

Frame your mind to completely accept the bad feelings and do so fearlessly. Why be frightened half to death by a mere 'feeling' no matter how bad the experience. The idea is to starve your nervous system of the fear hormone that's keeping your nervous system over sensitised.

Millions of people have regained their quiet mind through Accepance during the past 50 years. But it's no quick fix, you have to let time pass before you feel the symptoms and bad feelings subside.

The point is that when we recover from anxiety and its symptoms we often recover from depression too. Because our prime reason for being depressed has resolved.

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1973m

Thank you jeff1943

I know you are right

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Elocin303

But how how how? Trying so hard to do this.

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Jeff1943 in reply toElocin303

The Acceptance method for respite and recovery from anxiety and depletion (depression) was first set out by Doctor Claire Weekes 50 years ago in her still best-selling first book 'Self help for your nerves' also published in the u.s. as 'Hope and help for your nerves'. Still selling briskly from Amazon and Ebay new or used.

The book explains in simple non medical terms Weekes' six word imperative for recovery: Face, Accept, Float, Let time pass'.

She was nominated for a Nobel Prize for her contribution to psychiatry and in her biography an eminent New York Professor of Psychiatry claims that through her books, lectures, personal consultations and tv appearances she helped millions of sufferers to recover during her lifetime and after.

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Elocin303 in reply toJeff1943

I purchased the book last week and it is 100% me. I just wish I had an easier time implementing her methods.

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Jeff1943 in reply toElocin303

Her method is simple but takes persistent practice to achieve the frame of mind based on acceptance that is key to recovery. It can be indeed be hard work, nothing worthwhile is easily won, and no matter how hard it is nowhere near as hard as putting up with anxiety and depletion month after month.

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Dolphin14

Jeff

If you ever have the chance I would love if you did a quick review of each step. How you got there. How long your journey has been to recovery.

I know that's A lot to ask. Maybe in little bits at a time.

Is this post directed at the acceptance phase? Or is it about all the phases?

I know I can read the book but would value some of your personal side along with it if you are willing to share.

Thoughts?

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Jeff1943 in reply toDolphin14

I only know what is in Claire Weeke's book. I read it in 1975, practiced her method and recovered. I can say no more than that. Best to get the message direct from her book than second hand from me.

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Jeff1943 in reply toDolphin14

My posts are about the whole method of which Acceptance is perhaps the most important aspect but all are necessary for recovery.

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Dolphin14 in reply toJeff1943

Thank you

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Jeff1943 in reply toDolphin14

Nobody ever recovers just by reading my posts. People recover by reading Weekes' book (several times until the correct response comes effortlessly almost as instinct).

'Let time pass' is measured in weeks, even months. We spend years getting ourselves into this state, we should not begrudge a few weeks/months to get out of it.

In my case and many others anxiety and depletion are genetic or inherited. So it is likely to return. But if you've freed yourself from it once (and freed yourself of the fear of it) it is an easier task to control it. I consider myself recovered even though I get short periods of mild anxiety from time to time which I can deal with because I understand how it works and know what to do. I think maybe 25% of people have inherited tendency to anxiety as I do.

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Dolphin14 in reply toJeff1943

Sorry, I was just curious. Thank you

Wow this is so helpful. I had been fighting a simple anxiety this morning and by now it's the afternoon here in my country, the anxiety feeling is getting worst. I am already thinking of the worst case scenarios that I fear. I am getting so agitated that I can't think clearly. My head is starting to ache because of too much worry.

Well thanks to you, I know a way to co-exist with it. But I agree, it'll take practice and time to get the positive thoughts inside my head. :)

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Greenize53

Your so right

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sweetiepye

anxiety @#____###___----___====\\\\////----_____-----

depression --------------------------------------------------

get a big eraser!

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LiveandLetLive42

Jeff this is awesome thank you! To me, depression is when I feel very low and feel like crying or just being really sad. Anxiety to me, is when I feel VERY UP and shaky and the feeling of wanting to do something, ANYTHING to get rid of it. I like how you distinguished the two though.

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Sadlost2019

My therapist explained it like this - depression is when you are dealing with the past and reflecting back, anxiety is fear of the future, the unknown and they very often go hand in hand especially after a traumatic incident - be it physical or emotional

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