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I am not able to calm my thoughts

Starrlight
Starrlight
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I just increased a med that might help. I need to believe right now. In something hopeful. I’m very upset and feeling like never before and I just am struggling so hard I feel will I ever get my senses or myself back.

I know I’ve been on a lot and I really appreciate every one of you for being here for me. I will be there for you too.

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s_l_f

Sending you warmest regards. Poor you. I understand but it will pass. Just plod on 😊

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to s_l_f

Do you understand? I’ve never experienced this before. I feel like my mind is troubled non stop.

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s_l_f
s_l_f
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It’s why we’re all here. We understand. A lot of us have been where you are. Same, boring advice. Breathe. Trust your body is all fine and it’s the anxiety. Don’t fight it but try to look at it in a detached way. X

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to s_l_f

❤️

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All_alone

Are you with others right now?

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Starrlight

I am but no one to help me. I don’t know what they’d do anyway but reassure. So many have tried to reassure me.

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Birmanblue

It's 3. 30 am here. Did not realise you were coming off 4 drugs at once. What advice did you have as certain drugs might each have a different type of withdrawal symptoms. Do you think you could write each one down to see what recommendations are for each one. You could put out a post about coming off multi drugs at the same time and finding out from other members how they found it. Do you have a good doctor to check with as you need help with this from a qualified pharmacist and doctor . No one is the same. You are so brave but to have side effects like this sounds very hard to cope with. I thought may be you would be advised to lessen each drug according to what aspect of the problem is decided by your g.p. Drinking plenty of water and eating high energy foods might help.

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Birmanblue

Have you looked at survivingantidepressants.org.

Title.

JanCarol - undiagnosed! Off all bipolar drugs!

Success. Very helpful .

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Starrlight

I just took my med increase and experienced a lift of some sort and it’s got me feeling better now. Thank God.

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All_alone

It's good ur feeling better. I'm also glad you have others with you but fully understand about the reassurance but they are there. ❤

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Birmanblue

What a relief x

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Starrlight

Thanks for being here for me. I appreciate you.

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Birmanblue

It's feed back from people who understand how you feel. Know you like healthy foods so expect you include vitamin B5 which has enzymes to help process nutrients when there are blocked cell pathways. Very good for autoimmune diseases.Might be useful for brain fog. Will let you know in ten years time if the brain fog disappears if I remember.

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Starrlight

(((((((((((((((((Birmanblue))))))))))))))))))

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Birmanblue

Thank you for your (((((((((((wishes))))))))))) for longevity. It's when you want to live you know you are on the mend. Sleep well tonight.

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Starrlight

I’m waiting for it. You too, sleep well.

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Birmanblue

Thanks was up last night to go to the loo. Felt like a dog's dinner and put my tee shirt on inside out when I got up this morning. xx

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Starrlight

Oh no yeah I hear ya xx

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Birmanblue

Ha. Was worried about my grandson's allergies but found that B5 can help with allergies and with growth hormone. It is also a key player to help depression and anxiety. I will have to have avocados everyday and mushrooms but it is not in high enough levels in many foods especially for kids. Hope I won't be up all night looking for more info. Thanks for support.

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Starrlight

I’m listening. It’s interesting. I take B vitamins and give my kids some with it too.

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Birmanblue

www.organicfacts/net/health...

Finding information at 3am in the morning helped to calm my nerves to find ways to help food intolerances through taking vitamin B5 . As many vitamin tabs may have citric acid in them which can upset people with stomach acid am looking for an easy supplement in food which has loads of B5 and the info from website has some really interesting information . If you think it might be of interest to other folks on the site send a smiley. Hope you slept a bit better after adjusting your meds. Well done.

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Starrlight

Good work! Yup I slept okay thanks.

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Birmanblue

Really pleased you worked everything out. It's worth keeping a diary with ups and downs.

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Starrlight

Hmmm I have in the past I don’t know maybe

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Birmanblue

Off to bed now. Moon is so bright have to close curtains it is hurting my eyes. Sleep well.

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Starrlight

You too! Sweet dreams. 🌙

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Birmanblue

Slept well. Hope you slept well too. Had busy day with kids and family after school. On day 8 of coconut oil and think it is helping a bit but am looking for B5 supplement. Thought it was in marmite but it does others and b6 but not B5. Have been able to get in shed and Potter around with some time to myself today. Hope your day is going well.

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Starrlight

Woke to worries and I feel miserable. I’m so upset about this terrible anxiety I’m getting really fed up with it. I wish I could take an anxiety pill I winder for how long will my body crave it you know?

Im glad your coconut oil seems to be working. Enjoy your time for you!

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Birmanblue

May be you should raise the dose of another one it can take longer may be..we are not uniform in design ha.

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Birmanblue

😃

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Starrlight

Hope your day is going well. Going on my second walk of the day soon.

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Birmanblue

Do you decrease your doses by quarter of a tablet per week? Some people take their reduced doses on alternate days. Do you think you could write a post on help with the drugs you are on and how to reduce the dose? There must be so many friends and folk who have experienced the same symptoms and know how to space out doses.

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Starrlight

I went off the benzos cold turkey and I ended up not weaning off Zyprexa after all but if I had I was planning on going down 5 mg at a time for a few months each lowered dose with help of my psychiatrist

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Birmanblue

Yeah! Psychiatrists don't take the tablets ...most don't have much info on pharmacology so your pharmacist would be able to help. Your weight per kilogram may determine how to lower the dose. Good feedback from other sites such as thyroid unlocked . There is a consultant who might able to help who is a member of the site. Did you have a thyroid test sometime ago?

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Birmanblue

survingantidepressants.org/...

Just typed "Guides to tapering of olanzipine" an easy site to check. Hope it helps.

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Starrlight

I couldn’t get to the sight through the link.

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Birmanblue

If you type guide to tapering olanzipine the website should come up with the same title. It gives charts and details on each drug and how drugs differ in his they affect you if withdrawn. Your drug is very difficult to get off so needs supervision. If in doubt please ring your GP over the dose as you should not be experiencing these symptoms. You deserve a check . It is the failure of staff not knowing info about drug withdrawal as they should go on courses to update.

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Birmanblue

Hope you can sleep tonight. Expect you are a night owl.

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Starrlight

No I go to bed as soon as I get the chance.

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Birmanblue

PS the website gives info on your drug brand.

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Starrlight

You are awesome, how are you doing today?

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Birmanblue

Have been over eating so have set off IBS..don't feel awesome rather a greedy cow. I started the dog yesterday with some chocolate ice cream to die for. I have my just desserts! I will wobble my way through tomorrow and stop eating oat biscuits and jam. Night night. x You are the star..

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Birmanblue

Went to bed awake all night as could find the old cat. She had been hiding in a wardrobe and emerged this morning. Had a side ear so took a painkiller.l i

It's the only thing that works an d feel better and less dizzy today. It's taken ages to pack for holiday am so slow.washed a cardi by hand it dried outside the found a yummy stain and had to wash it again. Chat tomorrow hopefully. Take care.

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Birmanblue

Hope you are better today. Expect you will adjust your meds. The one you mentioned takes 8 weeks not six. Weather here great.

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Starrlight

Thank you. But I had a worse day. Just barely hanging on. Are you well?

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Birmanblue

Fine today. So sorry you felt so wobbly. Was it because you just rested did not or eat drink much ? May be drinking cold water will wash away some toxins. Do your legs feel weak and trembly? If you have a nurse to visit or are over a certain age a district nurse might come out to see you. I know you need to eat sugar and comfort foods to get some energy. Drinking lucozade might help even if is glucose . Those slim fast drinks are living you nutrients in a drink. Your are not slimming. A home visit would be helpful from your doctor . Otherwise you could get someone to take you to minor injuries unit as this will help . No appointments needed open till 11am. Decreasing in 5mg doses sounds too high to me and decreasing by less than a gram will be better. If you are a member of thyroid unlocked there is a member who knows about meds and how to use them their name is Thyroidnomore .You can mention you are decreasing meds and you are on other drugs you don't know if your thyroid is stable at the moment as you are weaning off the drugs. Please ask for help as this journey is not easy.

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Starrlight

Going to my therapist today. Trying to get more rest before I go. My husband and son are going away this weekend and I’ll be with my other son. I don’t know what we’ll do maybe walk to a nearby park as I’ll have no car. A walk to the store too.

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All_alone

Hi Starrlight. I wish I could just give you a big hug. We are here for you. Are you able to take your dog for a short walk and get a little fresh air... take some doggie treats and focus on walking the dog and handing out the treats..... I know it's very hard right now...

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Starrlight

❤️

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Starrlight

I just did it. Hope you are well.

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All_alone

Not to bad today. Going to play with the dogs a little later.

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Starrlight

Nice! I hope it’s an amazing time.

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All_alone

Just so they dont take me out. They can get so crazy and running fast that they just crash into me and down I go. Its happened a few times. Kinda funny.

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Starrlight

😆

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All_alone

All three of us enjoyed and I didn't get taken out but one did crash into me but I seen it coming.

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Starrlight

Cool 😎

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lillyofthevalley37

Could you have a glass of wine to relax

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Starrlight

I might, I’m trying not to drink as well but maybe 1 glass will be not be a huge deal...

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Birmanblue

No..it may delay your progress as many meds should not be taken with alcohol. Schloer or Pomagne is quite nice as a substitute.

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Starrlight

Hmmmmm Schloer And Pomagne I haven’t heard of. Maybe I could just use my passionflower and kava.

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melbrown

Sweet Starrlight... big hugs 💗💗💗 First take a big deep breathe, hold & slowly let it out... you are okay, beautiful, amazing & strong... this anxiety stuff is hard, but you are so strong & loved so much.

Is your pup (sorry I forgot her name) near by? Put your hand on her chest... feel her soft fur... her steady breathing... let it relax you... see her total love for you in her big eyes & just enjoy snuggling with her. Theres absolute no judging... just pure love from her.

I am here for you Starrlight... love you.

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to melbrown

Thanks. Helpful to relax with the breath and Coco wasn’t in a cuddling mood.

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elderspectrum

Sending you love and warmest regards. I have been there and come back stronger. Ride the anxiety like a wave. Don't try to fight it. It will pass.

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Starrlight

Thanks

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newbie56

Hello again, Starr

Your life matters to others—

including your family members or friends who may already have expressed concern for you. People who care also include some whom you may never have met. This is evident here.

There is nothing to be ashamed of if you suffer from an emotional illness—any more than if you suffered from a physical illness.

In fact, depression has been called “the common cold of the mind.” Anxiety is even more common. But it can be treated.

REMEMBER: It's usually not possible to climb out of such deep despair by yourself. With help, however, you can succeed.

GOD sends help in many ways. Our hands are "tied" but His Shoulders are broad and strong. Let this sink in. Repeat. You ask for hope. Here it is :

Read Jeremiah 29:11. :)

This weekend can be the first really happy one for you <3

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bridder01

You gotta believe, Starr! :) We're all here for ya :)

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Starrlight

Thanks!

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Sunnidayz1

Hang in there Star! It's not easy to get through new meds and new doses. Take better care of yourself during this time. Ive been through this and I know how you feel. Take it one day at a time and have faith that in the end it will work out bc it will. You are in good hands with your Dr. We are here to support and love you!

Xoxo Sunni

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Sunnidayz1

Hey, my friend! Glad to see you here. I just went through 2 1/2 rough days and I missed you during that time. Others, including Starrlight, did step in and help me, though. I never literally asked for help from any of them and I was surprised when 10 or 12 people came to my aid. Truth is, I'm always happy when I see your name out here. Hope your blessings keep abounding, my awesome friend!

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Sunnidayz1
Sunnidayz1
in reply to JEG325

Awww....thank u John! Life is tricky sometimes. It's highs and lows for everyone. Just know that if u ever need to talk Im here to listen. Im the type of person though that if Im feeling low I dont reach out. I dont even reach out to my friends off this site. No one. I guess I dont like to burden people w how I feel which is interesting bc I dont think that way when people need my help. It's never a burden to me.

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Starrlight

I’m always here for you as well if ever you do reach out.

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Sunnidayz1

Thank u so much Star!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Sunnidayz1

And you are just as classy, my very good friend!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Starrlight

Spoken like the classy person I know you are, my awesome friend!

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Starrlight

I just reread this post and it means a lot to me... trying... things are getting easier day by day... thanks for the reminders.

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JEG325

S, I slept 11 hours or I would have been there for you. My fondest hope is that you get off all of the drugs one day. But, you have to do it in a slow and controlled manner. Use magnesium citrate to help calm you down during this time. Take 1 dose 3 to 4 times daily. You can take 3 and save the 4th for when you are feeling at your worst. A powdered form called 'Calm' works best for this purpose. I have had many people tell me this is a godsend to them. It's a statistical fact that 60 to 80% of all people are magnesium deficient. This will help you to sleep too. A dose of it + 3mg of melatonin are extremely helpful to your sleep effort.

But, mostly, I just worry about you and wish I was actually there so I could help you directly. I would sit up around the clock with you until we got through this together if I was able too. I will keep sending you my love, hope and best wishes. I'll pray for you even more. You are not alone. Keep writing all you need to. You can also pm me whenever you need me. Okay?

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

Great advice! But unfortunately even one dose of Calm can give me horrible migraines. I so hoped Calm would help me sleep. It has happened repeatedly, so I do know it is the Calm. Bummed about it!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

I don't use the 'Calm' myself. I use magnesium citrate in gelcap form. It is a much smaller and more controlled dose. Each gelcap is 125 mgs of magnesium. The only problem I have ever had with it is that if I go to 4 per day, it sometimes causes me to run to the bathroom. But, 3 per day works well, with an occasional 4th one when needed. I recommended the 'Calm' for my awesome friend because I thought she might need a higher dose to help her. I usually recommend people starting with 1/2 dose of 'Calm' up to 3 times daily, only gradually increasing to a full dose 2 to 3 times daily. But, some people never need more than a half dose at a time, which is good and more economical. Thanks for responding!

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

Great advice! I will try 1/2 dose and see! I know I need magnesium, but the headaches are awful! Just awful! Causes vomiting. I am trying Magnesium Threonate, which I am liking so far! Google it. It is interesting and helpful for mental health!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

Interesting. This is cutting edge new info. How much do you take and what it the amount of magnesium in each dose. Is it gelcap, capsule or tablets? I'm very interested.

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

I take a capsule from Doublewood. I got it after much research. Many in my thyroid group use it as well. I have had early success. Praying it continues. I am up late tonight because of friends visiting, but I notice it makes me sleepy! I take one or two capsules. You can take up to 4, but with medicine, a little bit goes a long way with me!

It is 2,000-4,000 mg depending on how many you take with a total elemental mag of like 144mg.

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

Per capsule?

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

1,000 per

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

Is the 144 also per?

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

Pretty sure that is the total if 2 capsules are consumed.

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

My research indicates that it is per 3 capsules. Like I said I already ordered it and I'm gonna give it a try. I'll start with 1 per day, mixing it with 2 mag citrate per day and I'll gradually increase until I'm taking the 3 per day to replace the 3 mag citrate per day that I take. I hope it's a good as I read....

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

I should have just checked the bottle in my cupboard😂😂 Friends here then bed. I dropped the ball, sorry!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

You were quite awesome, P67! I thank you from the bottom of my heart!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

I Googled it. It was fascinating. A recent clinical study pretty much proved its effectiveness. Thanks for the info!

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

I have also heard great things about Life Extension neuro-mag!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

Yes, I was reading about both of those brands. You could be helping me a lot. If it works really well, I will recommend it to a lot of my friends. But, I try to be quite thorough first. That's why your info is so important to me.

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

Great! )just woke up to dogs barking, so checked my phone, no a good idea! )

Yes, research is the key. I try to be-careful about what I put in my body!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

I ordered it from Vitacost.com, my favorite online site. I had a 20% coupon and free shipping so, I ordered it + Opti-Zinc, another specialized formula that helps me a lot. I will get it Tuesday. Can't wait to try it! Thx for the info!

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Pearl67
Pearl67
in reply to JEG325

Awesome!!! I hope it helps you! Such a blessing when someone shares a “help.” It may not work, but it may snd that is a win! That is why this site is great! We can help each other!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Pearl67

Agreed. I don't reach out with the info on vitamins like I used to because the anti-vitamin crowd on this site are loud and obnoxious. I got so much flack for my pro-vitamin posts that I quit posting it right away. I only treat my problems with vitamins, supplements, diet and lifestyle changes and that is not popular with the pro-drug group. But, I have 20+ years experience in the vitamin/supplement field having probably tried over a hundred different things in that time. I usually only report about stuff I tried so i can answer questions about it first hand. However that wasn't good enough for some people. So, I more or less stopped putting that part of me out there. But, thanks for your timely info. I hadn't ran across the info on this newer supplement yet and I'm eager to try it....

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to JEG325

I’ve used it in the past for my kids too not sure how well it worked. Maybe worth a shot to try and see.

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to JEG325

So appreciated!

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JEG325
JEG325
in reply to Starrlight

You are appreciated too, my super awesome friend! Sorry if I hijacked your post. But, Pearl67 gave me some important info. Thanks for allowing me to use your post, S. If it helps me, I'll try to get Sue to take it too. I may be able to get some of her cognitive problems to reverse. It could be usable for you too. I'll start on it Tue. work it in slowly. It's supposed to take 6 to 12 weeks to work. I'll let you know how it's going. Sue and I send you love and hugs this morning!

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to JEG325

❤️ and hugs

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dbeck128

Meds take a minute to work. Alot of times the side effects are worse in the beginning. It should go away. They always say 4-8 weeks you either see improvement or dont. BUT everyone is different!! Don't be afraid to talk to your doctor! 🥰🥰🥰

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Lostmyself65

I truly hope today is a better day ❤

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Starrlight

❤️

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Tetelatia

You are not alone. What med did you increase ?

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Starrlight

So I went down recently on my Zyprexa and it was a mistake. I am back up from 15 mg to 20mg. But I also stopped the occasional needed as anxiety benzos. My body and mind are adjusting. I’m trying the best I can to survive this. I feel out of sorts. I keep becoming scared and triggered easily. I can’t seem to relax and have peace in my mind. You know?

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Tetelatia

Yes ma'am I KNOW trust me I know

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Beevee

Read my posts about those troubling thoughts. Let them trouble you. They mean nothing so learn to let them go. They will sting but It’s just anxiety creating them. Trying to calm of control them has no effect. To recover, you have to let them thoughts run riot. It’s just anxious energy being released and needs to be released. It’s the way the mind and body recovers so the less resistance you put up against those thoughts, the better. Otherwise, you are impeding your own recovery. The important thing to remember is that the thoughts are just that. Thoughts. Thoughts created by your anxious mind.

THOSE THOUGHTS THAT BOTHER YOU SO MUCH WILL NOT BE THERE WHEN YOU RECOVER SO DON’T GIVE THEM THE RESPECT AND ATTENTION THEY NEED TO KEEP COMING.

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to Beevee

Thank you sooooo! ❤️

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torpe

i wish for you the very best abd i’m sorry you are feeling so upset.…yourself will always be in there, just a matter of digging thru some things. i hope that you find it soon enough and that your journey smoothes over

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Starrlight
Starrlight
in reply to torpe

Thanks Torpe!

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torpe
torpe
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💖💖💖

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