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Can we talk about how there are millions of mental health cases in America, depression has 16.1 million cases alone. It’s such a big dilemma, and yet people aren’t doing enough to help people suffering. Can we talk about how suicide is the leading cause of death in America, that means the majority of people who have died in America have died from a suicide. Can we talk about how 90% or suicide’s are caused by mental health. Can we talk about how there are probably hundreds of thousands of mental health cases that haven’t even been documented. Can we talk about it? Cause honestly someone needs to start talking about it, or suicide rates will just keep rising as more and more people give into their mental health issues. So, let’s talk about it.

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This is a big dilemma, but people are so scared to share their feelings because, society has made mental health seem like it’s some kinda disease that makes u crazy. But that’s not what it is it is a chemical imbalance in your brain. People shouldn’t be scared to share. The more society looks down upon people with mental health disorders, The more people with mental health disorders will look down upon themselves. That only causes suicide rates to sky rocket, and is that really what we want our world to come to?

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elijah_effaces

Honestly, I couldn't agree more. The number of adolescents with mh in the UK is dramatically increasing, yet still our funding is being cut. Nowadays, it's too costly to be treated for mental health, or the waiting list is too long and resources are shared between far too many people. We're dying to get better, literally, yet nobody bothers to do a single thing about it.

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Lovely_Lizzy_ in reply to elijah_effaces

Ik, how can we sit back and watch as our fellow humans wither away?

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sweetiepye in reply to Lovely_Lizzy_

I'll try not to write a book, but there are so many reasons that contribute to this subject. Most of us don't feel empowered enough to make a difference. In the past people were occupied with survival, and now we are occupied with being consumers . We have life style shoved in our faces via TV, internet, social media. Needs are invented and we feel we have to measure up buy buy, buy. On FB you can invent a life for others to envy. It isn't always what it looks like, but people tend to believe what they see/read . There aren't a lot of role models for children , parents let schools raise their children and at the same time don't hold their children accountable. Young people are socially inept because they communicate electronically . Youngsters have an extraordinary suicide rate because they are alienated , bullied , desperate for caring people in their lives. Prisons are full of billions of people ; the mentally ill, the disenfranchised . Medical care and insurance is not equable. It's a hot mess and I haven't even touched on half of it. Is it any wonder that we feel alone and lost. Who do we go to ? Really, I think we only have each other, our families and friends who need to support us, and we need to stay strong enough to not lean on them too much. In spite of all my doom and gloom I am hopeful because of all the caring people on site including the administration .

One other thing I want to share: the latest article I read on depression stated that the biggest cause for depression is comparing ourselves to others and feeling we fall short. Of course the person you are comparing yourself to is probably doing the same thing. Appreciate your differences . Pam

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Lovely_Lizzy_ in reply to sweetiepye

I couldn’t have said it better.....❤️

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Kkimm in reply to sweetiepye

Very well said

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Stilltrying_

Uk is getting pretty bad. Personally I feel the problem is even worse in the US from all I have read.

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Lovely_Lizzy_ in reply to Stilltrying_

Yeah

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sweetiepye in reply to Stilltrying_

I would agree. So many people needing so much help.

People should be doing a lot more to prevent suicieds and to helps those who have already tried a lot of doctors and thearapist think that telepysic is good to help paitionts but it’s not all that is to me is we can’t find any one to help you so well put you with someone that may be several miles away people with depression and dealing with suicide already feel distant from others already so how would that be helpful we need more human beings helping them in the same room to let them know that there not just a paitiont that there human beings and that that doctor is there for them where I am doctors leave and new one come in all the time doctors never stay and that’s the other problem

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marheart

Wow Lovely! You are right on target. The shame still exists after so many centuries. I agree. Let's talk about it, just like we talk about problems with teeth, eyes, Gastro system, etc.

How? People get scared and run away. I know I did run until the beast captured me and I am learning about it.

There are opportunities for the medical professional to stand up and help us to learn.

I almost died in the hospital because they struggled to get my blood pressure to calm down before a Biopsy.

No one was trained in hypnosis, breathing exercises, tapping, etc. Each and every medical person can learn to help us. It's so logical to round out the training, yet they don't want to scare the workers away with the big bad wolf. Or some rationale (?) like that.

Education is the key. Let's come up with some ideas as a starter, then how to activate those ideas is a target goal.

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art62grammie

I use to hate to talk about suicide. Now I am much wiser and think it is good to know why people take their life. I suppose people can have a chemical imbalance for the reason why they do take their life. I believe also trauma from my childhood abuse was the onset of 40 years of Anorexia. If I had not been abused. I am pretty positive that Anorexia would have never struck me at 14. I have never been suicidal much. I was starving a I guess that was torture in its self. When I recently went through a long divorce. I had many horrible thoughts as to end my life.

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art62grammie

I never tried any attempt just thoughts. That divorce took a year and horrible. I have recently recovered from 40 years of Anorexia. It will daily be a process to remain recovered. Yes, it is so sad. Those we leave behind will suffer far more than any other death. I do have a son in prison. He has been in for 6 and a half years now. I know he has gone insane. The things he says when we talk. I love him so much and had great hopes that he would come home and be ok. I know now it will not be like I hoped. It is so hard for me to have tough love. He was 26 when he did his crime. Now at 32, he made bad choices. I had to stop thinking so much about him. It was destroying me. Get this. He did his crime 2 wks. after I checked myself into treatment for Anorexia over 6 years now. I am truly blessed to have seen the same mental doctor and therapist that I started out with. I continue every 3 months to see them. They are family now. I love them. I would not be alive if not for them. They were perfect for me. I might have PTSD but I refuse to let my past abuse define who I am today. Yes, people go to doctors for all kinds of physical illness. I say to my mental doctor and she agrees. Mental issues are only a different part of the body. For anyone who looks down on us with mental issues. Who are they to judge? This is what I say to them. If you had walked in my shoes as a child. You might understand. We are just as good as the guy next door. There is no shame in asking for mental help. It proves we are strong. So my ex-husband laughed at me during my Anorexia. He left me to die. He was an evil man. He was spoiled mama's boy. So he asked me why life was so hard for me. This is when I said if you had walked in my path you would know. He thinks he is too good for me. The truth he is not good enough for me. Evil he is.

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Chancalot

That's major those numbers are staggering.

Sure we can talk about it.

As individuals we can’t solve world problems. That’s depressing.

BUT instead of wasting energy, blaming other people and health organisations for not doing enough, we need to become more involved with our own communities. Reach out to others when we are not so trapped by our own anxiety and depression and even then, when we feel that way. Concentrate on our area of influence. It’s empowering.

I have one really good friend locally, but I know many others by name and those I don’t know I will say hi and chat if they want to. I know my neighbours and the elderly neighbour who lives alone can call me any time for a lift into town or Drs surgery.

I won’t use self checkouts in the supermarket (they’ve just installed a huge bank of them in our local supermarket). I prefer the interaction with staff, good for me and hopefully good for them.

Small things that knit us together.

I looked after my Mum for a few years, because she had worsening dementia and could no longer manage alone. She wanted to stay in her cottage. She had always been there for me, especially when I was very ill.

I’m 65 and retired now.

I have known of people who have chosen suicide as a way out of suffering in silence. Even their closest family experienced shock and disbelief.

I offer support to them. It’s too late for me to help their loved one.

I deleted my Facebook account a long time ago. I enjoy real face to face relationships.

Sometimes I give myself a break from the news for a few days and try to apply all the good things I have learnt to better take care of my own heart and soul, so I can give loving care to those around me in the good times.

It’s a huge subject and I agree with much that has been written here.

My own experience of our NHS has been pretty good, especially when I was in crisis with a hypomanic episode followed by debilitating depression.

These days I recognise my pattern of stress, anxiety, depression and its never as dramatic as it used to be.

Scary when I used to visualise my death. I just wanted my life to stop....for a while....until I was able to ride the rollercoaster again.

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Lovely_Lizzy_ in reply to

Wow there is so much truth in this

Great post and I agree...not only talk about it, but I truly hope the day where we begin to do something about it begins to come towards the forefront. More studies, more caring, and, with time, more solutions. Changes need to come. It's not a bad thing to message your local and state government about the concerns because it is their job to represent the people who elected them. Put the heat on to pass legislation helping those suffering. Raise funds for research, reduce costs for treatment, reduce costs of medicine. Great post :)

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Lovely_Lizzy_ in reply to

I totally agree especially about treatment cost, it’s that way with a lot of drugs sold by pharmacy’s, for all sorts of complications.

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cecelia66

Can we talk about this site not having a group specifically for people who struggle with suicidal thoughts and/or have made attempts? It's not like were not out here.

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