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Hi All, just reading Kaz747 post on Magnesium, does any one know or heard of to get better absorb in the body you need to take a Vitamin B with the Magnesium?

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Ianp66 profile image
Ianp66

I thought its was vit D mate helped it absorb.

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Padayn01 in reply to Ianp66

Oh sorry mate could be wrong is it Vit D?

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wilsond in reply to Padayn01

Yes that's right

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Padayn01 in reply to wilsond

So do you take a Vit D supplement with Magnesium?

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wilsond in reply to Padayn01

Yes I always have had to take vit D all year round but now take magnesium too. It helps get the mag into the system x

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Padayn01 in reply to wilsond

healthline.com/health/magne...

Have a read of this? its where i got Vit B from

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wilsond in reply to Padayn01

Interesting! I take mag taureate wonder if it's different. Shall check out with GP. The main thing is magnesium has really helped me tick along nicely. So I guess as long as we take it anyway....?.

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Surreychica_1 in reply to wilsond

Just started to take Magnesium taurate and not had any heart bumps yet. So far so good!!

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Dawsonmackay

One way for better absorption is to buy the chelated form of magnesium

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Padayn01 in reply to Dawsonmackay

Solgar do them

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Dawsonmackay in reply to Padayn01

I take these:

amazon.com/BlueBonnet-Chela...

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Padayn01 in reply to Dawsonmackay

Thank you

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Kaz747

I have taken a B complex vitamin for years (which also contains some magnesium). When I consulted a pharmacist/master herbalist he said to continue taking the B complex in the morning and at lunch time and take the magnesium before bed.

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Ppiman

I’ve read as much as I can about this and have found out:

- there’s no medical evidence that oral magnesium has any effect whatsoever on arrhythmias.

- magnesium is freely available in a balanced diet, being an essential part of all green plants (as chlorophyll).

- all salts of magnesium are absorbed well, from the cheapest to the most expensive.

- hypomagnesemia (i.e. deficiency) is rare and has many serious health consequences apart from effects on the heart. It can rarely occur in people taking long term PPI (strong antacid) medications for reflux disease or certain glandular illnesses.

- it is extremely difficult to measure magnesium levels.

- some people with fibrillation anecdotally report that magnesium salts seem to help in some ways.

- I tried a long course of magnesium taurate to no effect whatsoever.

My conclusion is that since it’s safe, it’s worth trying. Any effects are likely to be placebo, but this is still worthwhile if it makes you feel better.

Steve

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allserene in reply to Ppiman

I think you are right and there are a million people posting a billion cures for a trillion conditions... I am doing magnesium and Vitamin D, but here in Wisconsin, vitamin D via sunlight is hard to come by coz its too bloody cold to go out ..... so that's probably worth doing... Yes the feel-good effect of doing something, even its totally ineffective, is good for morale and relatively harmless ..Hence the number of churches round here (I couldn't resist)...... Of course the downside is that the disappointment and hit to morale is amplified when another event happens anyway after months of intensive and expensive pill-popping

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Ppiman in reply to allserene

I'm sure magnesium and vitamin D are harmless, but as for churches?! ;-)

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Kingsley09 in reply to Ppiman

When I told my cardiologist my afib attacks had eased off considerably as I had been taking magnesium taurine she said it meant that I was obviously low in magnesium it was fine for me to take but be sure not to take to much as i could overload my system to much so I only take 2 100 mg tablets a day instead of the 3 100 mg tablets a day that I use to

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Ppiman in reply to Kingsley09

It's good that you've found something that helps. I wish it had helped me, but there we are - we are each different.

As for being low in magnesium? I'm surprised as I'd been led to understand that if a person was, then they'd have many other important symptoms apart from arrhythmia. I was told it is not easy to be short of this element since it is in all green foods as a part of the chlorophyll molecule.

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Pearce1940oscar in reply to Ppiman

Certain medications can deplete your magnesium so I’m assuming that’s why I must have been on the low side

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Supernerogirl

Hi I take magnesium and b vitamins all in one by WE Support by Wassen seem to work like a treat .

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Padayn01 in reply to Supernerogirl

Thanks how long you’ve taken then for?

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Supernerogirl in reply to Padayn01

A year now

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Eastmids

I tried magnesium for a month didn’t seem to do much though I slept better but then my kidney function deteriorated has anyone else had this problem could it be unsuitable with the ramipril or bisoprolol I take

I’ve stopped taking it for a week so will see what next blood test comes back with

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philologus

I use magnesium oil in a spray form. It absorbs quickly and helps with night cramps in my legs. I just massage it into the large muscle and the cramp goes very quickly.

No side effects.

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Supernerogirl in reply to philologus

I have been told this is the best way to get magnesium in your body via the spray, I need to try it .

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Auriculaire

Many magnesium supplements come with vit B6 in them. Magnesium content of fruit and veg is said to be significantly reduced from what it was 50 years ago because of soil deterioration due to intensive agricultural methods. Magnesium and vit D do work together . Upping vit D might mean one needs more magnesium . Many drugs are according to Dr Caroline Dean ( who wrote a book about magnesium and it's essential contribution to our metabolism ) "magnesium muggers" including alcohol. Unless one is eating very large quantities of organic fruit and veg I think it is sensible to supplement especially with magnesium taurate as the taurine is supposed to be good for heart health. I have just my given my asparagus beds their yearly dressing of Epsom salts!

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Ppiman in reply to Auriculaire

But surely magnesium is the central element of chlorophyll. It is freely available in all green vegetables and easily absorbed

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shirlygirly

I rub magnesium into my legs each evening, I find it helps with restless leg syndrome. So it must be absorbed through the skin.

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Padayn01 in reply to shirlygirly

Better to be absorbed through skin than oral?

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cuore in reply to shirlygirly

I have a spray magnesium, but I don't know how many squirts I should apply.

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D_afibber

I take Remag from Dr Carolyn Dean. It's made in a Pico form so goes through the stomach walk.before getting to the intestines which for some people causes laxative effect. I have never had any side effects from Remag. But I do notice when I don't take it first thing in mornings.

Works for me to calm my afobs.

Dheave

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DIB69 in reply to D_afibber

I take the same thing and have found that it has not only calmed my Afibs but also completely stopped my leg cramps which used to wake me during the night. I sleep better, have more energy and less anxiety. Having tried a number of other supplements previously to no avail, I doubt this is simply the placebo effect.

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D_afibber in reply to DIB69

Hi DIB69.

Great for you!! Can you tell me what dosages and times you use Remag. I am curious. Because I usually take in morning with glass of water. But I wonder if a teaspoonful is enough in water once a day. I suffer morning afibs but usually come out of it by 10:00 ish. Rest of day is usually stable.

My afobs I reckon are related to vagus nerve damage so doc has me on Gabapenten for dosing at bedtime. That calms me enough to get good sleep albeit only on my righ side. Vagus nerve trigger people seem to have trouble sleeping on the left I have come to understand. Myself included.

I am now taking Remag for about a year now. And I know it works, but would like to know other people experiences or dosages or tips.

Regards Dave

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Ppiman

Hi - yes, but the effects on the body of low magnesium are rather serious - muscular twitching, numbness, tremor and so on - far from only on the heart. But still - if it works, and it's safe - that's great.

Steve

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