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PSA rising. What could the next steps be?

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Hello everyone!

I hope you are doing well. I wanted to post an update about my father's current situation. After PSA started to raise, the MO added Abiraterone 1000 mg. a day with 10 mg prednisolone to his treatment regimen with Zoladex (once every 3 month) and Zoledronic acid (once every month). Abiraterone took his PSA from 70 to 8.97 in one month but after that every PSA test gives us increase in PSA number):

07/06/2024 – PSA 11.9

08/07/2024 – PSA 20.8

04/10/2024 – PSA 32

14/10/2024 – PSA 40

21/11/2024 - PSA 99.3

My father will have radiologic scans to see if there is visible cancer progression, The next steps will be decided after that. His oncologist mentioned possible chemotherapy (he had good response to chemotherapy previously), also changing abiraterone with enzalutamide might be a next step. He doesn't feel any additional symptoms yet but we know that if PSA keeps rising he might get pain in the bones, etc.

What do you think would be the best next step? Which sequence of treatment methods might give us the better results? Any suggestions and ideas would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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GP24 profile image
GP24

I would try to get a Pluvicto treatment. us.pluvicto.com/

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gio2x in reply toGP24

We live in an eastern European country and unfortunately, Pluvicto isn't available here. To get Lutetium treatment we would have to go to another country (from what I have read here, India is the cheapest option). Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I will keep Pluvicto in my mind and also discuss it with his oncologist.

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GP24 in reply togio2x

You could get it in Baku.

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gio2x in reply toGP24

Baku might be an even better option for us because it is much closer (we live in Georgia). I will look into it if they are still offering that kind of treatment. Thanks for the suggestion.

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GP24 in reply togio2x

We had a member here who was treated at the nuclear medicine center at the National Oncology Center of Azerbaijan in Baku. His name was Rusland.

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God_Loves_Me

Hello

I am NOT doctor and I am NOT medical advisor. Here are my suggestions, I think he has no physical symptoms.

- Try to find out ADC clinical trials like ARX517 that recently shared great result to public.

- AMG 509 immunology from clinical sites may be also good options

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gio2x in reply toGod_Loves_Me

Yes, he has no additional symptoms yet other than expected side-effects of hormone therapy. We don't live in the US and unfortunately those clinical trials aren't available here. Thank you for sharing your thoughts though.

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Teacherdude72

After the 08/07/2024 test results treatments should have begun. PSMA Scan to locate the little buggers and what ever treatments the MO would choose.Same now applies.....what has been offered?

Where are you?

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gio2x in reply toTeacherdude72

We live in Georgia (country, not the state) and yes, I am also not pleased with the slow approach. I was not at the last meeting with the oncologist but my father told me that he discussed possible chemotherapy, enzalutamide or immunotherapy. I will go with my father when he will go there to get radiologic scans and hear more from him. He said that treatment plant will be decided after radiologic scans are done but the PSA is clearly going up very fast which makes me nervous.

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Teacherdude72 in reply togio2x

Keep calm for your fathers sake. Seems a slower pace than USA but that is your countries system. I suggest taking notes and asking questions.

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j-o-h-n

I noticed your dear Dad is 66 years old. He (or you) should pounce on his M.O. and get him to help your Dad asap. Give your Dad our regards, and if you wish please tell us where he his being treated (also in what city/state). Thank You!!!

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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gio2x in reply toj-o-h-n

We live in Tbilisi, Georgia (country, not the state). And he is being treated here.

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j-o-h-n

Thank you for your response. I apologize for missing your post above which mentions Georgia the country and not the US state. I always think of Georgia as being part of the USSR since I'm still living back in the mid 20th century (I'm an old guy). Like you, I too am also Asian Caucasian. You have my admiration for being a wonderful offspring of your Dad and watching over him. Keep up the good work..

P.s. I just viewed the capital city of Tbilisi on Google and it seems like a city I would enjoy visiting.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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gio2x in reply toj-o-h-n

We fought a lot to not be a part of USSR and gain independence. Although our current government seems like they wouldn't mind going back to USSR unfortunately. Yes, Tbilisi has some great sights. Thank you very much for your kind words. I wish you all the best, sir.

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dmt1121

When my PSA started rising on Abiraterone, my MO changed out prednisone with dexamethasone and this kept it effective for a while longer. It's a segway to another treatment.

These may be helpful or at least give you a starting point. Some may be in clinical trials here or in other countries.

nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/N...

pharmacytimes.com/view/olap...

cancernetwork.com/view/radi...

Good luck.

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gio2x in reply todmt1121

Thank you. Changing prednisolone with dexamethaone seems like a good idea to mention to the oncologist.

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Tall_Allen

Consider combining docetaxel and enzalutamide, as in the PRESIDE trial:

prostatecancer.news/2022/10...

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gio2x in reply toTall_Allen

Thank you. I will mention this trial to the oncologist. What would be your opinion about changing methylprednisolone with dexamethasone as a first step?

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Tall_Allen in reply togio2x

Certainly worth a try.

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gio2x in reply toTall_Allen

We switched from 10mg Prednisolone to 0.5mg Dexamethasone. The oncologist offered us continuing treatment with Cabazitaxel + ADT (Zoladex), no Abiraterone (according to Proselica trial). But the article in the link says that Cabazitaxel + ADT + Abiraterone gives better results in chemonaive patients. What do you think - would my father benefit from the triplet therapy although he already had 6 courses of Docetaxel chemotherapy at the beginning of his treatment (so he is not chemonaive).

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