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Good day fellow brothers and sufferers. This is my first post and my story. I am in the UK, so all of my treatment, whatever it entails is totally free of charge, so cost has no part to play in my treatment choice. I am 68 years old. In February 2018 I had a routine PSA – came back at 4.8ng/ml UK units. I was offered a DRE by my GP, or the option of a proper hospital investigation. I took the latter because I had seen my father die horribly from prostate cancer, and I know the trajectory all too well. The hospital routine is a full investigation and diagnosis in 1 day – DRE, mpMRI, and biopsy. I had a DRE – nothing there. I am no fan of biopsy up the bum, so I decided to have the mpMRI, and go home. To get the results of the MRI, all the guys were lined up in the backless gowns for a chat with the consultant, have the biopsy, take the pack of antibiotics and go home. I was the only one in civvies....

When my turn for the chat came, I got a 'look', which I ascribed to my attire. Unfortunately I was wrong. I was shown a nice clear scan of a 12mm diameter tumour on the posterior lobe, and was told that this looks like the sort we worry about. Ah – then I think I'll go home and regroup, and have a think. I dived into the internet to see what my options looked like. Hyperthermia was top of my list, but only available in private clinics in Germany. Did I say cost was no consideration? I lied. Joint second on my list was Cyberknife, and HIFU. I contacted my friends daughter who is a GP (mine is useless), and she recommended a urologist to me in Southampton. A long way from home. I sent an Email and forgot about it. My primary care hospital sent me the preliminary scan diagnosis in the post and invited me back for a chat. The system moves no further without a biopsy. The German clinics recommended NO BIOPSY prior to treatment. Oh. Against my gut, I took the offer of a Template biopsy. It took 3 months to happen. Gleeson 3+4 across 2 large areas anterior and posterior lobes, assessed as T2. And PIN. Lots of PIN. We don't like HIFU across 2 lesions, we don't like HIFU on large lesions. We can put you on ADT for a few months and then put your prostate in the bin. Do you want the injection right now? Mmmm. NO thanks! I'll go away and regroup. I read. I crash dieted, at one point eating NOTHING for 5 days, dropping from a trim 82kg to a Belson like 68g. I have ribs. Herxheimer is real! Trust me.

I looked for clinical trials. Saw one for HIFU in London. Sent the scan and biopsy, and went for a chat. Sorry – 2 large lesions, and we assess the data as T3a. Not suitable for HIFU. Nerve sparing only possible on one side. Oh. T3a... I think I'll panic then. I saw another clinical trial for Cyberknife. Sent the scan and biopsy report. 2 lesions, too big, T3a, go for whole gland radiation NOW! I asked my original centre for a scan reassessment – still T2 they said. Who is right? What to do? And why did I have to do a 400 mile round trip when they could have phoned or Emailed to say that? Where I live we have phones, and electric lights!

By September my PSA was 8.1. Bugger. Saw another Consultant. I suggest whole gland radiation, soon... I didn't like that! Of course he was a Radiotherapist. I'll go home and regroup... Bugger bugger bugger.

Then I got a letter from Southampton (I had sent the scan and the biopsy report), agreeing T2, and because I had refused conventional treatment, offered HIFU. I bit off his hand. We went on a long holiday, involving lots of food and drink (it was included in the price and it would have been rude to refuse). LOTS...

When my PSA hit 8.1 I started on intermittent LDN 4.5mg/d (2 days then a day off). I started vitamin D3, magnesium, and Hymecromone (4-MU), aspirin, and green tea extract. Even on holiday. In October I was called to Southampton for a pre-op assessment, including PSA. Yes. I was worried. Very. Would it be 10? Or worse? No sleep that night following a 250 mile drive home. The result came in. PSA 4.4. FOUR POINT BLOODY FOUR. RESULT!! I'm doing something right – the lowest value for a year.

Extensive HIFU destroyed 40% of my prostate in November, leaving me with a supra-pubic catheter and a leg bag for my train journey home the next day. At least I had the choice which way to pee. Or both at once. The SPC was there for many weeks, and was not nice, but a God-send because after 2 months the debris of necrotic tissue started with a vengeance. Impossibly big lumps – some as big as small peas. I had the dubious pleasure of self catheterisation lessons so I could rod out the debris. Do people do this for fun!!! By this time I had added the Care Oncology protocol – Atorvastatin, Metformin, Mabendazole, and Doxycycline, and also Silibinin. 3 months after HIFU my first PSA test. ONE point FOUR!! And at 6 months, my latest PSA is ONE point TWO. I think that is a RESULT!! I have to thank Tim Dudderidge in Southampton for taking the challenge, and for remarkable work with the Sonic Screwdriver. I am building on the foundation of his work.

The best money I have ever spent in my life is the book 'How to Starve Cancer' by Jane McLelland. 4 quid – 6 bucks as a download from Amazon. I owe Jane a huge Thank You for an amazing piece of work, and for making it available at a low price. Don't wait – buy it NOW! I am about to add Berberine, Hydroxycitrate, Oleanic acid, alpha Lipoic Acid, and Ursolic Acid to my protocol. I have experimented with THC/ CBDa but I don't like it a bit. Sublingual. It is FOUL. And it makes me feel pessimistic, and physically close to paraplegia for a very long time. Do people do this for fun?

So there it is. If your Urologist is a surgeon, he will want to put your prostate in the bin. If he is a radiotherapist he will want to make your prostate glow in the dark. Outside of their own specialism most don't know their arses from their elbows, and don't want to know, which is worse. You have to take charge, read, learn, listen, be brave, and Never Stop. Read Tom Seyfried, Travis Kristofferson, listen to George Yu, and get The Book by Jane McLelland. I believe strongly that we are dealing with a metabolic disease of the mitochondria, and a multi level attack is necessary. And if you are wondering – I have all of my faculties (well BOTH my faculties). This thing thrives on complacency. Beat it then beat it again, then kill it and kill it some more. Then do it all again. Kill the fox by killing the rabbits, the chickens, the rats and mice, and lock down the bin lids, and maintain Nuclear War. Maybe forever. Never stop. Live in hope and leave no turd unstoned.... Good luck to you all

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407ca

Good post. Thanks.

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Pizzle123

Thanks for the post. It has given me some food for thought. I'm about to have a PSMA PET done so when the doc's decide what they are going to do I will challenge their decisions before I proceed with treatment.

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TFBUNDY in reply toPizzle123

Your NHS doctors and consultants will not help you with any unconventional treatment. Contact Care Oncology Clinic in Harley St. It will cost you about £1200 for a year. They will prescribe the statin, metformin, mebendazole, and doxycycline. They may do your initial consultation by phone or Skype to save you the travel. Also Take Vitamin D, about 10000 units a day, and I suggest about 3g a day of Cantabiline (AKA 4-MU, or Hymecromone). You can still have the radiation or other standard of care if you want it. My personal inclination would be to reject androgen blockade until you give this a go. We are all different, so you need to think very very carefully about your options and likely outcome. Kick the can down the road for as long as you can....

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j-o-h-n in reply toTFBUNDY

Greeetings Tough Fxxxing Bundy: Great informative and funny post...

"leave no turd unstoned"..... I followed your advice but "a turd in the hand makes an awful mess".

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Tuesday 04/16/2019 6:09 PM DST

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countrymusic101

Thank you for your story. I just ordered the book How to starve cancer. Looking forward to reading it! Keep up the great work crushing pc!

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Ramp7

Just finished the book, How To Starve Cancer. I have been following Joe Tippens protocol for 9 weeks. It appears Jane is the King of the hill with this comprehensive approach to controlling cancer. Her investigation has a sound scientific approach with some intuition. So Mr. T you contacted Care Oncology Clinic. This may be the best approach. I was trying to map my own Spot but even after studying Jane's Map I have too many questions.

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TFBUNDY in reply toRamp7

Good luck with your venture. I'm nursing a sore dick right now following a biopsy, willycam, and stricture dilation, catheter in place. If I'm a very lucky boy this will be the end of it. I'm doing LDN, plus the Care Inc protocol for the moment.

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Ramp7

And back at you. Been doing the dance for 12 years now onto Hormone treatment.

Jane's approach makes sense to me.

Best of luck to as well.

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Ramp7

This is the second time I have reviewed your post. Noticed that you mention, Hymecromone (4-MU). In what dose, duration and where it was obtain from. Very curious. Thanks

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TFBUNDY

From before treatment I took about 800mg a day of Cantabiline from France. I then bought a load in bulk as 99.8% purity powder and doubled the dose. Some studies say it kills or prevents metastases. As far as I know I am not metastatic. Who knows...

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