Its hard to argue when you won't stop making sense

Its hard to argue when you won't stop making sense

Think that probably has to my favourite line from a Snow Patrol song.

Speaks volumes about the conflict between emotional needs and logic ... or at least it does to me.

Sometimes we try to explain things and people try to understand them in terms of logic when they aren't things that can be understood logically - that's why it can be so difficult to try and talk about depression with someone who hasn't actually experienced it.

There was an article in the paper today about the things people say to try and comfort people. 'I feel for you' got a big thumbs up. 'I know how you feel' got the thumbs down ... as did 'pull yourself together' :)

Another line that I really like - Pink Floyd Darkside of the Moon this time - is 'There is someone in my head and it is not me' - though that is more to do with the song itself and who and what it is about as it isn't really a place I've personally been to ... which sort of brings me round to another reflection which is on crying ... yes there are times when crying is that howl of anguish but there are also times when crying is the expression of achieving a deep empathy with someone else - I often get that these days when I'm watching tv and someone is talking about something that deeply affected them - and it happens as often with the good as the bad. In the past I'd probably have been really uncomfortable about that because it all seemed soppy - and I'd also have felt awkward that I was having that sort of an emotional response, but it's a lot easier to accept now that I've realised it's actually about being in a place where I'm deeply in tune and empathising with someone else.

Anyway, hope you all have a good weekend and that your arguments aren't hampered by too much logic :)

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  • Hi Gambit that's a very interesting post. Depression defies logic in lots of ways.

    Ah I just love the cats , they are both gorgeous . Yes I too Love Pink Floyd and

    I always remember Comfortably Numb , all their stuff is brilliant.

    You have a good weekend, I will probably be having a fairly quiet one as

    Have not been feeling great in last few days, no real reason why or nothing

    That jumps out at me. I find it hard to post and ask for help as I try and help

    Others more. Anyway good to share that with you. I always like your approach

    And I find you never judge or get snappy.

    Gambit hope your Boyfriend is making a good recovery, and I too always

    Found those Office Xmas parties a bore and hardly ever went if not railroaded

    Into it.

    Kind regards

    Hannah

  • Sorry to hear that things are bit down for you at the moment.

    Boyfriend has car problems - motor went on windscreen washers and they aren't a part you can get overnight so he's got to wait until next week before it's fixed so won't see him this weekend - bit sad about that - and a little narked that my suggestion of driving over there was just greeted with a comment about not being worth it because his energy levels were low ... hey ho! think the narked comes from his tendency to hibernate in the winter which does get to me slightly. I don't mind the cold as long as there is some sunlight and I can even cope with the dark evenings if there is a good moon - funny but I think the thing that really affects me is not having a shadow (must have been Peter Pan in a previous life :)). Anyway, I was expecting it to be dull and foggy today and it isn't - starting to get a bit cloudy now but can still see the sun doing it's business and my run was really nice - haven't got any real plans for today - think there might be a craft fair so might go to that - otherwise it will be sitting on the sofa with the puzzles and catching up on some of the tv from the week ... which as Saturday's go is a very good Saturday.

    Take care of yourself.

  • I think the lyrics we like say a lot about us - as it is essentially us recognising ourselves in someone else's words.

    I think it is the hopeless romantic in me that makes these probably my favourite lyrics:

    Heart's terrain, is never prairie

    But you weren't wary;

    You took my hand

    Through the cold, pissing rain

    Dressed to the nines

    Arm in arm with me tonight,

    Singing out loud yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    Like continuous thunder...like continuous thunder.

    Oh and if I had all of the answers

    And you had the body you wanted;

    Would we love with a legendary fire?

    And if I had all of the answers

    And you had the body you wanted;

    Would we love with a legendary fire?

    And if the cold, pissing rain

    Flooded that fire

    Would you still take my hand tonight

    Singing out loud yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

    Like continuous thunder...

    Like continuous thunder...

    (Japandroids - Continuous Thunder)

    The best song I know about the paradoxical strength and fragility of love.

  • Gambit,

    I loved your post. It sums up so many feeling I have had. Below are lyrics to a song i really relate to by my chemical romance

    "Famous Last Words"

    Now I know

    That I can't make you stay

    But where's your heart?

    But where's your heart?

    But where's your...

    And I know

    There's nothing I can say

    To change that part

    To change that part

    To change...

    So many

    Bright lights, they cast a shadow

    But can I speak?

    Well is it hard understanding

    I'm incomplete

    A life that's so demanding

    I get so weak

    A love that's so demanding

    I can't speak

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

    Can you see

    My eyes are shining bright

    'Cause I'm out here

    On the other side

    Of a jet black hotel mirror

    And I'm so weak

    Is it hard understanding

    I'm incomplete

    A love that's so demanding

    I get weak

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

    These bright lights have always blinded me

    These bright lights have always blinded me

    I say

    I see you lying next to me

    With words I thought I'd never speak

    Awake and unafraid

    Asleep or dead

    (How can I see, I see you lying) 'Cause I see you lying next to me

    (How can I see, I see you lying) With words I thought I'd never speak

    (How can I see, I see you lying) Awake and unafraid

    (How can I see, I see you lying) Asleep or dead

    'Cause I see you lying next to me

    With words I thought I'd never speak

    Awake and unafraid

    Asleep or dead

    'Cause I see you lying next to me

    With words I thought I'd never speak

    Awake and unafraid

    Asleep or dead

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    (Or dead)

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

    (Or dead)

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    (Or dead)

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

    (Or dead)

    I am not afraid to keep on living

    I am not afraid to walk this world alone

    (Or dead)

    Honey if you stay, I'll be forgiven

    Nothing you can say can stop me going home

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