Can't lose weight

[ForestryPine6]

I'm at the gym working out on cardio & weights finishing with Treadmill 20 minute's walk start with 30 minute x-trainer burning 800 plus calories it Say's but I can't shift the weight, I'm staying between 145 kgs to 149 kgs consistently I've been trying for years, I put weight on from 2017 I'm on 4 different medications beta blocker Bisoprolol 5mg per day 20mg per day mirtazepine 45mg at night, there must be a way to lose weight and I have lymphodema in both lower leg's that I self manage and take 2mg Bumetanide diuretic every morning because GP says I have excess body fluid, which I flush out. Any help would be gratefully accepted. Thank You. Rob 👍

[moreless Administrator 7 stone]

I realise that you're feeling very down about your inability to lose weight, ForestryPine6, but you've asked the same question numerous times over the last 2.5 years and have been given lots of advice, but are still doing the same thing you were doing then, expecting a different outcome. Exercise is great for health and well-being, but it shouldn't be relied on for weight loss, that needs to be addressed by changing your eating habits.

You also have lymphoedema, are pre-diabetic and have subclinical hypothyroidism. A side-effect of beta blockers and mirtazapine is weight gain. You'll need to get your GP onboard to get these medical issues resolved if you are to have any chance of losing weight effectively.

I suggest you look back on your past posts to see where you can make changes to your diet.

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Good luck!

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

Thanks for taking the time to reply in full, I've seen numerous GPS at my surgery and took on board what they've said for last 8 year's but I'm still the same weight. GP is happy with the fact that I'm not putting on weight consistently and I'm staying around 145 to 149 kgs, that's not helpful, Yes I've asked on here before but not getting anywhere! I'm wondering if I'd lose weight when I pass away lol, Yes I'll go back on your link, and be open minded, but don't realistically hold out any hope, I've been to slimming world and other programme's nothing is working, I've seen nutrients Dietetics person, Yes I'm on here again because I'm hitting a brick wall, really don't know what else I can do apart from not eating and just drinking water, I'm fed up of posting as much as your probably fed up of me coming back on here again, I'm stuck on a roundabout and can't get off.

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

Honestly Rob, you need to go low carb. I believe it's the only thing that's going to make a difference.

Carbohydrates make you retain fluid - not good for your lymphoedema.

Too many carbohydrates lead to Type 2 diabetes.

Carbohydrates can lead to feeling hungry and experiencing food cravings.

Slimming World and dieticians stick to low calorie/low fat diets, which have obviously not worked for you.

Being overweight is depressing. Taking the necessary steps to lose the weight may lead to you not needing a drug that makes you gain weight.

You need to forget all you've learnt before and start again with a fresh and positive outlook.

You can do this and we can help if you work with us

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

A big thank thank you, so it's no bread, pasta, potatoes is that what your saying or limit them moreless 👍

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

I have been low carb for nearly 9 years now, I don't eat bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, sugar (in any form). After over 40 years of yoyo dieting, it was the only way I could lose over 100lbs and maintain the loss. I don't feel hungry, or deprived, the way I used to on low calorie/low fat diets.

If I can do it, so can you

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

That's a fabulous positive reply, so I get that there is a way to lose like you've done brilliantly in that huge weight loss, I'm wondering is there a guide as to what I can eat to replace cards, is there a chart or link that I can work from I wonder? I definitely need a new direction so will start this low carbon as I remember an acquaintance he cut out carbs about 15 year's ago he was type 2 and lost 4 1/2 stone, fresh outlook and advice given by yourself take on board 🤞

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

This is a simple guide phcuk.org/wp-content/upload...

This is a visual guide to the best and worst of particular foods dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vis...

This is a guide that shows how different foods behave in the body compared to sugar phcuk.org/sugar/

Dozens of low carb recipes dietdoctor.com/low-carb/rec...

Remember eating low carb is simple, just stick to real food.

I hope we'll be seeing you on our challenge with your new mindset now

[Eryl Visitor in reply to ForestryPine6]

And no breakfast cereals or fruit juice.

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to Eryl]

Funnily enough I've never eat at breakfast just 2 mugs of tea, Am I ok to continue tea in morning. Thanks for valued advice as I've tried almost everything to lose weight Eryl 🤞

[Eryl Visitor in reply to ForestryPine6]

Yes as long as you take it without sugar because half of table sugar is fructose which is the driver of fat storage and hunger

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to Eryl]

I've always used 2 sweeteners for each mug of tea, is that ok or stop the sugar Eryl 🤔

[Eryl Visitor in reply to ForestryPine6]

Some people say that artificial sweteners are bad but I'm not sure. Just make sure that you don't eat table sugar and don't eat exceptionally sweet fruit like seedless grapes. Stick to berries if you can because they tend to be lower in fructose. I stick to half a cup of blueberries per day as they are also high in antioxidants which fiight the inflammation caused by insulin.

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to Eryl]

That's brilliant information that I need about fruit, who would believe that fruit can be bad for you, it's true about the saying learn something everyday 👌

[Eryl Visitor in reply to ForestryPine6]

Yes, look on youtube for a video called "is fruit good or bad for you?" by Garry Fettke.

As a coincidence this video just popped up on my feed and I heard that artificial sweeteners tend to reatain water which won't help you loose weight. youtu.be/L6CAaRRxoFU?si=dZR...(Not working as expected?)

[SummerDark Visitor in reply to ForestryPine6]

Fruit isn't bad as it contains lots of vitamins, however, if you're aiming to go low carb/low sugar, fruit does have a lot of natural sugar. It's best to stick with a small serving of berries and no fruit juice as has already been mentioned.

I found going very low carbs very difficult at first, so instead, thought of carbs as a garnish... so for example, just a tiny amount of pasta, around a dessert spoonful. Then a lot more vegetables on the plate. This helped me transition to eating less carbs.

Good luck!

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to SummerDark]

Thanks for your input, SummerDark I've given you a Visitor badge.

If you're still on a weight loss journey, please let me know and I'll give you a 'proper' introduction to the forum

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to SummerDark]

Thanks for input SummerDark I agree going low carbon is really tough when going to gym as carbs I think did help but more habitual than anything else, but I've made a start lots of veg and I'm not a fruit juice fan luckily although enjoy a blackcurrant soda water with ice on a summer's day, not sure if that's ok? It's needed a drastic transition of eating as I've tried most everything else to lose weight and exercise isn't doing it although it makes me feel fitter the scales hovver between 145 kgs to 149 kgs the highest being 153 kgs, up until 2017 with the workouts I do I would have lost the weight, it could be a multitude of things anyway it's really helpful the support I have on here and thanks again 👌

[moreless Administrator 7 stone]

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These should keep you going for a while

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

This is exactly what I've been looking for, lots of tasty delicious meals without the carbs or low, brilliant.. thanks moreless 😊

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

You're very welcome

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

Morning, Can I add 2 sweetners to my tea as I've Alway's done or best not to 🤔

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

The jury's out on the pros and cons of using artificial sweeteners healthline.com/nutrition/ar...

My personal opinion is that they're better than sugar, as a temporary measure, but if possible they should be reduced until no longer required. You'll probably find that your sweet tooth will disappear after going low carb and they'll become a thing of the past

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

In my younger year's I didn't use sweetners so I guess it's habit now, it won't take a lot of effort for me to bin them as I will when having coffee this afternoon after gym and this as started my low carb as ain't tried that before, thanks for taking the time to reply moreless 👌

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to ForestryPine6]

Always happy to help if I can Rob.

Good luck giving up the sweeteners (I did it 47 years ago and the thought of using them now turns my stomach 😁)

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to moreless]

That's great to read, no sweetner later 😉

[lowT163 Restart Dec 2023]

hasn’t killed me yet but they say it can. Phentermine takes away the desire to eat so you lose weight. I know it can cause heart attack but so can obesity.

[BridgeGirl Administrator 2 stone in reply to lowT163]

I think the poster is going to try a new eating approach, rather than medication that can cause a heart attack

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to BridgeGirl]

I'm open to suggestions but I'll stick with all the information more less gave me low to carb free foods, but thanks lowT163 for taking the time to give input.

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to lowT163]

Thanks for suggestion, much appreciated 👍

[Anxiousarabella 2024 July]

I had the same problem that I was dieting for a couple of years and just could not make the weight go. I did the gym and although I toned up and lost a dress size - the actual weight still did not come off. I am on beta blockers, bp tablets and blood thinners. One day I decided to do a fast and only had water and green tea for majority of day and some fruit at 6pm. Rest of week I ate like I normally do - end of week, I lost 2lb . I was so thankful! Now the weight seems to budge, sometimes I think it is just a case of confusing your body. I don’t know your history - so obviously check with a GP if you decided to try this.

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to Anxiousarabella]

Thanks for taking the time to give your own input experience, I'll take that on board, my GP to which I don't have a specific doctor will simply say do what I think but safely, they seem to be okay with my weight staying around the 148 kg mark, yes I'm 188 cm tall 6ft 2" in height with a bmi of 142 which is severely obese, I've got my height to thank that I don't look worst as it's staying consistent, but if I couldn't train my weight be desperate. him I would balloon as currently 148 kg which I'd like to get down to 115 kg, I'll give this a go? 👌

[Anxiousarabella 2024 July in reply to ForestryPine6]

Yes do give it a go - it’s really worth it when your weight gets stuck for a long time. I think it confuses your body and gets your metabolism going again. Good luck.

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to Anxiousarabella]

Hi and welcome, Anxiousarabella

Thanks for kindly stepping in to offer ForestryPine6 advice. I've given you a Visitor badge, but if you wish to continue losing weight with us, let me know and I'll change your badge and give you some information about this forum.

All the best

[moreless Administrator 7 stone in reply to Anxiousarabella]

Hi again, Anxiousarabella

It's great to hear that you're going to join us on your weight loss journey. All of the information you need about the forum can be found as Pinned Posts healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh... I hope you'll be joining all the Events, Challenges and Clubs that we run, especially the Weigh-in and Daily Diary.

We've found active participation to be key to successful weight loss and, of course, it's a good way to get to know people, find inspiration and share support and encouragement.

Wishing you all the best

[Frenchfields 2024 January]

Definitely worth giving the low carb a go. I just wanted to add a couple of things from my own ( generally positive) experience of low carb. Firstly don’t be surprised if you don’t get that big loss on the first week that people often experience with other diets, don’t be disheartened. Secondly you might want to include some vegetables like chick peas or beans, ( not the ones in tomato sauce!) lentils, seeds, to keep you’re digestive system moving -these will have some carbs but mostly in the form of fibre. And thirdly don’t be surprised if your energy levels at the gym drop a bit, it does take your body a bit of time to adjust, maybe 3 or 4 weeks , just slow down a bit until you do. Hope that helps.

[ForestryPine6 Restart April 2024 in reply to Frenchfields]

Thank You for the advice and what to expect, I've noticed already my input in gym as gone down because I've cut back dramatically on Carbs. Can't wait for complete transition with body aligned with low carb intake..👍