I have type 2 diabetes, I hate the side affects forms this and taken the medication.
I managed to reverse it before but this time I am struggling to stick to any tip of diet. The consultant said they would buy me down for a program so I get support but 5 months later I have heard nothing.
So, I have decided it’s time for me to make change myself. The only thing is I think I need the support, encouragement and advice along the way.
is anyone up for doing a 800 calorie diet for 12 weeks?
Hello and a very warm welcome to weight loss support Zebra85.
There are lots of groups offering support on this forum, and all the current ones can be found here:
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We are not professionals, but we are all here for the same aim, to lose weight, and offer lots of peer support along the way, whichever plan you're following. We would always recommend to do that safely, and for some people 800 calories would be very low, and unless checked for nutritional balance, may not be very safe for some people. Would a call to the consultants secretary be worth trying to nudge them into sending you the programme?
Have a look at our groups, and do join in, best of luck 🍀
Hi Zebra, I second what Grigid says: give them a call, tell them how keen you are to get on the programme and keep reminding them you're around.
I don't know how much you've been told about Type 2 diabetes. It's a disorder of carbohydrate metabolism so it's worthwhile making changes to that aspect of your diet.
There's growing evidence that the very low calorie diet is effective (I'm assuming that's what helped you reverse it last time) but I can understand that it's difficult to stick with.
The other approach that has proven effective for GP Dr David Unwin with his patients is reducing starchy carbohydrates. This is a simple guide from him dietdoctor.com/wp-content/u... Maybe that could get you on track while you're waiting to get on the NHS programme.
I was going to give you the link for diabetes.co.uk and when I found it I saw that it starts with a very short video from Dr Unwin diabetes.co.uk/type2-diabet...
Thank you for your reply. The consultant has discharged me and I can’t find any letter from them.
I know all the ins and outs of diabetes I did reverse it previously but I think the weight loss through pregnancy and after was down to my eating habits. I feared eating due to my sugar levels spiking I don’t want to get like that again. Now, I emotionally eat and this time it’s harder to stop this, one of my main cravings is carbs I am in a vicious cycle. I will take a look at the video. Thanks again
Well, it sounds as though you know what the answer is 
Think it all through. You're a young woman, you don't want to be living with a chronic disease and you don't have to. You also don't have to eat miserable food, though you will have to sideline those things that you know spike your blood sugar: just remind yourself why you're doing this.
Join in with our Daily Diary: there are plenty of low carb eaters there.
You'll find some recipes from members here healthunlocked.com/weight-l... or just Google your favourites e.g. low carb chicken curry recipe, low carb meatballs .... whatever your favourites are.
More recipes here, though I see this site is closing carbdodging.com/recipes/
surely that can’t be the best option? 800 calories is insanely low!
I started with about 1200 calories and as my job at the time was manual long hours after a few days I was feeling quite tired , light headed . I began to yawn mid afternoon. Apart from being on my feet - running about after children I had no motivation to exercise . After 3 weeks and an average weight loss of initially 4 then 3.5 then 2 lbs I went onto a 1400 cal plan guided by scanning foods and checking basic macros via MyFitnessPal. I felt better , joined a Zumba class and my total loss went from 79kg to 62 kg over 8 months . Just my personal story but really balance your food and I maintain with 3 meals , no snacks , portioning and plenty of fruit tea and water . No eating after 7pm . Very regimented and yes after time the weight will creep back if I am not very careful with exercise and food especially on holidays and during peak times like several summer BBQs and Xmas . This did work as a real kick but dedication especially at my age - then stayed aged 58 , now 63 took some willpower and I challenged myself to run 10k in less than 1.30 hrs which I won’t repeat. It actually changed my life confidence wise and I feel great but this is now a lifestyle choice which means thinking before I eat , only weighing myself weekly as this can become excessive and mindset of only being able to eat what I put in my trolley every 5 days. I no longer want or bother with MyFitnessPal as my daily intake is in my head . It can be difficult at first almost like starting a new job which is what I did too. It is worth it but wouldn’t say easy but I would recommend advice from a professional who knows a lot more about you and is trained . My journey was experimental and I know me . Wishing you all the best .
I am the same at the minute I have 2 children and suffer from insomnia so that leaves me feeling no motivation for myself.
Today is my first day of the 800 calorie diet. I have written myself a meal plan, taken vitamins and going to log my water intake, up the fruit and veg, no snacks or eatting after 7.30. I pigged put yesterday and I feel very full and uncomfortable but I just ate like I normally would do I can see just what I am eating.
Well done on the 10k! That is so inspiring I hope to do this with my mum one day. Thank you for your supportive reply. Have a lovely day 😊
I just couldn’t maintain a consistent pace of the life I had to live on 800 . I feel that increasing calories actually weirdly increased my weight loss as my metabolism improved and increased. On 800 I started to sit down more . I have 5 children , 10 years apart so my general sleeping pattern is still pretty bad as I have always 1 ear to the door even now but managed with broken sleeping for years and now feel ok on about 5/6 hours average. I am no expert but maybe lower calorie intake does affect our energy more and our digestive systems. I actually lost more weight on 1400 .
studys have shown that on very low calorie diets people become obsessed with food, even previously normal eaters. I am recommending overeaters anonymous to people. I have lost four stone with them and weight loss with them tends to be permanent. There are lots of people in over eaters anon who have reversed all kinds of health issues.
All calories are not the same so just restricting them may or may not make any difference to your diabetes unless by chance you cut out the right foods. If you cut out the wrong foods you culd be doing ourself srious harm. Get yourself a copy of "The Pioppi Diet" by NHS cardiologist Aseem Malhotra or watch youtube videos featuring Dr Robert Lustig.
Iwas suggested this approach by the diabetes team. I have to cut unhealthy carbs to healthy ones too, up the protein, veg but limit fruit. I have been reading Dr Michael Mosley books. So after the 12 weeks of 800 calories you transition to 5.2. I need to do something I can’t keep feeling the way I do.
There are no 'healthy carbs'. because they all metabolise into blood sugar. That's what you need to cut out especially the processed ones like bread and cakes which metabolise and are absorbed quicker causing a bigger spike in blood sugar. Make up your calories with healthy fats like animal fats, olive oil and butter which do not metabolise into blood sugar and do not cause systemic inflammation.
Not the 800cal diet but have a look at second nature, I started the programme pre diabetic and finished with normal blood sugar
Are you choosing foods with low glycemic index
the newcastle diet is the same 800 kcals with vegetables at lunch proven to get rid of type 2 diabetes but how to keep it off .living with diabetes professor roy taylor .the book gives recipes by adherents who have lost 15 per cent of.f their body weight 3 shakes a day . i have started and although having had a few wobbles just carry on eterminedly because i too am fed up with taking tablets .good luck remember if you fail once just fail better the next time
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