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Oh I love it! I have decided and ordered a tin of it to add to my low fat diet in which I have recently lost 2 lbs. My decision is not based on emotions. In fact one of our Holy Imams (a.s) advised a man to drink 'milk' for weakness which I am experiencing while dieting and exercising and once in a week fasting. He told that man that harm is not in milk. I guess He meant full cream because that is where from the energy comes. This dates back to some 1200 - 1400 years. Last time when I added full fat milk my LDL elevated to 114 which is above optimal limit according to the test report.

Even today there is a lot of controversy in the field of nutrition. Everyday new research is coming. And my understanding from the info available from the internet as a layperson is I think that saturated fats are not yet approved by the concerned high bodies. Whosoever they may be perhaps the dietary guidelines - which takes usually 5 yrs to update or the FDA. Of course they r science based and all aware.

I respect everybody's knowledge, beliefs and browsing. We r all educated. I would welcome your views.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Are you persisting with a low fat plan or are you changing? You still seem to be concerned about your level of dietary fat.

Are you talking about condensed/evaporated milk (as you refer to a tin) or plain milk with its natural fat level, as it comes from the cow (or goat or sheep)?

I understand you're in the US: I don't know anything about the training of health professionals there but it is acknowledged that there is minimal input on nutrition in the UK: most health professionals would have the same level of knowledge as the rest of us, unless they take a particular interest. Of the ones who do, many question the healthy eating guidelines the NHS offers to us in the UK

bbc.co.uk/news/health-43504125

pharmaceutical-journal.com/...

The link you gave also left me confused as to the writer's position. When I checked the original article bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h3978 I see the conclusion starts: Saturated fats are not associated with all cause mortality, CVD, CHD, ischemic stroke, or type 2 diabetes, but the evidence is heterogeneous with methodological limitations.

You might find some interesting points here zoeharcombe.com/the-knowled... and in the post she links at the end

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LosingGame in reply toBridgeGirl

Hi there!

I’ll continue with my low fat diet because that makes my meals low calorie and I keep losing weight without calorie counting. I also avoid refined carbs and try to keep my portion size small. I am just adding full cream powdered cow milk to combat weakness. I have previously also been drinking full fat milk but that raised my LDL level. That is my personal experience. So what I am doing is at my own risk. I am not adding butter, full fat cheese, liver, meat - high in saturated fats. For decades research has proven that high LDL is harmful. This concept is at present in a process of change and is not yet confirmed it has limitations because of the time factor and research methods etc.

I am in Pakistan not US but I have interest in this so I keep reading US, UK, Ca and Au material. I know one thing and others know something else. It’s an ocean of knowledge beyond the grasp of even doctors, dieticians and nutritionist. Doctors go more in depth of disease mechanisms and drugs. Old sayings tell several facts which researchers consider and work on. Science is an ever evolving subject.

Unfortunately, there r so many diseases which have treatment but not cure. When patients insist doctors look for alternatives and healthy habits like evidence based dietary treatment and lifestyle. They in fact start experimenting with their patients under medical supervision - monitoring. Depending on several factors like age, gender, family history, habits, presence or absence of other diseases etc a full fat diet may work for a certain percentage of patients but not all. I think more and prolonged evidence and research is still required on this topic to consider it safe for general public and patients. It’s a drastic shift. There is still controversy about it.

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I say, go for it 😋 lol. Mmmmm.

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We are all different and it is what works for you . I have most foods in moderation . At the start of my weight loss plans I feel I over read things . Food was 100% in control and this isn't me or for me. I now have a balanced diet and don't ban anything . I feel psychologically that I try and include more foods I wouldn't eat when I am at home when visiting friends as my social life plays a great part in my well being . I prefer yogurt to milk and find fruit tea stops my craving for sugar in a hot drink . I do watch fat content but don't buy any low fat gimmicky products which are flooding the UK market as are over processed vegetarian and vegan meals / snacks .

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LosingGame in reply tofocused1

I also don't want to ban any thing. I wish freedom in all aspects of my life. This website has cleared my confusion. Just want to post it here to share with everybody. I'll read several articles given in the right column in it. Quite authentic:

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