This article has some very challenging remarks to make about balanced diets.
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Hi Hidden ,
Do you mean this article?
theconversation.com/how-cle...
Hope that link works ok.
Zest 
Yes Zest, that's the one.. Looking at my link on the PC it just looks disastrous. Yours looks much better.
Looks remarkably similar to anarticle that appeared in The Daily Mail a couple of weeks ago, also slamming the health risks of 'clean eating', based on the most extreme examples the writer could find, equating 'Clean eating' with starvation eating disorders and 'breatharianism'. It was the usual sort of hogwash for which teh DM is renowned, and I shall file this article in the same folder.
I haven't seen the article in the Daily Wail (sorry I mean Daily Mail that you are talking about so I couldn't say. However I didn't read any observations about breatharianism or eating disorders even.
i understood it to say that sugar is in all fruits, and especially concentrated in smoothies, and that a dairy free diet needs to be carefully calibrated. And that abstaining from gluten is only necessary for diagnosed coeliacs.
I suppose the last one might be controversial, as many people believe there is a link between consumption of gluten and unwellness.
Hi,
I'll have to be brief this ruddy machine keeps crashing!
I'm not an expert but as a diabetic the problem with juices and smoothies is the availability of the sugars, breaking up the cell walls give you quicker access to more of the sugar which 'spikes ' your blood sugar.
I hear this often about smoothies. I never quite understand how liquidising a whole fruit can concentrate the sugars. I suspect the authors do not undertsand the difference between juicing and liquidising.
I don't really understand why Clean eating is taken to mean abstaining from gluten, dairy, fat etc. I mean it is admittedly a fairly meaninglessly broad term, mainly promulgated by the same media that subsequently rubbish it (see also 'Superfoods), but in the general understanding of the word, it generally denotes an avoidance of processed foods, and a diet favouring fresh single ingredient foods.
I'm not sure what the evidence relating to the sugar levels in smoothies is either. To be honest I've been hearing it for a while and I think I heard it from dentists first.
Would it be to do with GI? You know the way mashed potato 's GI is higher than that of whole potatoes. Even if nothing is added or taken away. (Now you'll tell me I've got my higher and lower GI s mixed up!)
Maybe a dietitian could add more.
I do know some people who are eliminating gluten and dairy from their diets. Now whether they call it clean eating or not I couldn't say.
Any dietitian on this list?
extremely miserable, certainly.
Among the various theories and principles I adhere to with my nutrition, a central one is 'does it sound like a good idea'. I believe the late George Carlin once said something along the lines of 'question everything but maintain common sense'. There may have been an expletive in there for added punch. I think his point was that having a healthy cynicism was, well, healthy, but crossing the line into conspiracy theorism, not so much.
All of the dietary approaches that make sense to me on a science level: paleo, keto, LCHF etc also tend to centre around things that are inherently pleasing to my palate. Diets that just sound like misery or deprivation from the outset (5:2, cabbage soup, vegan etc) also tend not to stand up to much scrutiny.
The same 'follow your gut' approach is what tells me industrial scale scams like SW and WW are utterly baseless.
Have I meandered off on a tangential rant? sorry.
That's allowed 
Hi, I have read so many different slants on diet I am going cross-eyed!!! I have decided that the only way to be healthy and stay a healthy weight is to eat proper food (steer clear of processed stuff) eat less ( make your portions smaller, look at "average size portions") and eat mainly plants but small amounts of good quality protein. (I once heard someone say "eat plants, don't eat anything made in a plant!) We have been conditioned to believe that we need a lot of food and in actual fact we need lots of different foods in small quantities and as much colour as possible on our plate. I was at travelling yesterday and the choices of food in service stations is appalling. The only place I could get a calorie counted salad was Greggs but when you bought a drink you were presented with 2 cakes! The calories in one of the cakes was more than the whole salad dish I got although I must congratulate Greggs on providing a very good filling salad of pasta, tomato and herb dressing and fresh spinach at 328 calories, so please Greggs, more of these meals for weight watchers on the move. I think for me calories counting is the only way I will train myself to put the correct helpings on my plate. This, my first week has resulted in a 2 lb weight loss.
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