I get really cross about this

esquire.com/style/mens-fash...

The tape measure is your friend, the retailers and their sizing are the enemy. I'm shocked

[sueper]

Vanity sizing - been going on for years!

I find it frustrating for plus size ladies clothes. As I am losing weight I am so excited about being able to buy standard size clothing. However, I found that a couple of the supermarkets add 2 - 4" to their plus size range, so a size 22 in standard sizing is a fair bit smaller than a 22 in the plus size range - no idea why?!

The battle of the bulge continues!

[Hidden in reply to sueper]

I knew it was happening with women's wear but, menswear! I've bought trousers and suits from up market outlets, who pretentiously have measured my waist, and said "yes sir, you're a 36 inch waist". It's bl***y deceitful. If I'd had known I had developed such a large waist I would have done something about it years ago.

Sorry. Still fuming and am running on adrenaline

I forgot my manners ................................. good evening sueper

[ssjtom]

I've talked about this with friends for years - if we go to a shop like primark their 34 waiste will somehow be completely different to somewhere like Topman that seems to cater more the manorexic types.

[ceejayblue]

Part of the problem with men is that they don't actually buy trousers that fit to their waists! They get trousers that fit lower down (usually under their belly!) so they never really wear proper fitting trousers! My OH went to buy some new jeans recently and was very frustrated about the differences in sizes between makes too - welcome to the world of women's fashion, its what we have to put up with every day!

[Hidden]

Thank you ceejayblue, only now, after listening to my wife complain over many years, do I fully appreciate the scale of the problem.

Most of my clothes are so old, and were made in a time/era when that sort of thing just did not happen.

It's a day on now, and I've calmed down a little. I shall be trusting my tape measure in future, and ignoring the sizes.

When one pays a premium for brands such as Hugo Boss, one does expect them to get the measurements right. It seems that the extra costs are not spent on craftsmanship.

Thank you for your reply and for putting me right ceejayblue

[Carolee13]

See also my thread healthunlocked.com/nhsweigh.... It's irresponsible and needs to be stopped.

[Hidden]

I wonder if sometimes with younger girls fashions & shops there is a worrying trend about trying to encourage the 'size 0' culture. I cannot remember seeing anything below size 8 in the shops when I was younger, but now days I do see size 6 & even 4 (UK sizes - which is size 0 in the US). Seems that by reducing the label size more girls can say "hey look at me - I'm only a size 6 or 4" (and repeat business for the shop) - which fits in with a lot of problems around body image these days.

[sueper in reply to Hidden]

I remember how my family always used to talk about how my size 8 aunty was so thin. These days a size 8 celeb is described as curvy!