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Came across this about Ultra-processed food in the week 22/5/24 Guardian

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Aginghippy1st 7lbs

Very interesting. Dr Xand on tv is very against ultra processed food and has lost a lot of weight after giving it up. Trying to give it up is not easy. I do my best but am probably a long way from it.PS I'm still trying the intermittent fasting but like processed foods I often fail. 😒

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misstippytoesRestart August 2023 in reply to Aginghippy

Same here, still doing my 16:8 if most days but the odd slip up is my downfall

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to misstippytoes

Just keep going x

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to Aginghippy

That's great news about the IF x

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Aginghippy1st 7lbs in reply to Hopalong1

I think it helps with maintaining but not so much with dieting. X

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to Aginghippy

I have had more success with 20:4 and lower for weight loss. This week was challenging for me. Husband is doing very well eating in a one/two hour window. What is your window? x

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Aginghippy1st 7lbs in reply to Hopalong1

I probably do 17 : 7 most days and feel ok with that . It's the carbs 😋 creeping back into my diet test I have to be careful of. X

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to Aginghippy

Since reading 28 Fast Start by Gin Stephens, I have entertained more carbs, potato, wholewheat pasta and brown rice + occasional treat. Still eat meals with low carbs.

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Aginghippy1st 7lbs in reply to Hopalong1

Yes, that is my plan. Let's see how it turns out. X

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misstippytoesRestart August 2023

an interesting article, I’m starting to be more aware of ingredients in the things I chuck in my trolley on a weekly basis

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BridgeGirlAdministrator2 stone in reply to misstippytoes

If we stick with fresh produce, we'll be fine :)

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Frenchfields2024 January

I didn't read it all ( nothing surprising in what I did read) but I have noticed how companies have switched a lot of energy into making vegan foods that taste like animal products. I would like to think most vegans are savvy enough to see its just more expensive upf but obviously somebody must want it. Cheese made of cashews, or coconut oil and starch. Some kind of fake bacon made of goodness knos what, miracle burgers which taste like meat, The food industry will try anything to make more money ( imho) they really don't care what it does to peoples health.

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to Frenchfields

Cecilia Nowell's article are part of a series, the links are at the bottom of the article. We looked at UPF's as part of Spring Challenge. I think food companies should be more accountable for what is in their products. Thanks for your thoughts, Ff. 😊🌞😊🌞😊🌞

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focused1Maintainer13kg

Seems like we are all aware of ultra processed foods and the trend now to cut out meat has the manufacturers wondering how they can substitute all those cheap beef burgers , sausages padded out with rusk and over processed chicken/ fish steaks . Simply eat fresh and I am buying more of the basics ranges in supermarkets as the Finest labelled foods are tasty for a reason . I needed a practical solution to changing my food into a lifestyle which meant no fasting , no supplements and addressing balance . I knew any fads would be broken when socialising , on holiday or out on a very long walk . I couldn't exercise on limited food and restricted hours . I eat 3 meals a day - roughly following 400 , 400 , 650 cals - just for a guide , using MFP free app for guide on macros . Aged 64 this works for me as I eat fresh , only drink when out maybe 2x a month in those situations then back on track and my body barely reacting as I don't buy a salty snack to accompany my wine . I knew from my wide / ish circle of friends that cutting out , being drastic gave them the encouragement and that trigger as in some cases the weight loss initially was amazing but to carry on forever wasn't doable . Most successful long term has to be practical , not a punishment and that you actually like what you eat . My husband eats my meals . He looks and feels amazing .

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to focused1

Hi focused1 That is interesting about basic range being healthier than finest. It makes sense that there would be less ingredients or cheaper. Well done on finding a lifestyle that works for you and your husband. After five years, my husband and I are on the same page with IF and are following Gin Stephens, which has been fun. All the best x

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The author still seem to believe that quanty of fat is important rather than the type of fat. Refined seed oils as used in many processed foods are not healthy while the natural fats like animal fat, olive, avocado or coconut oil are healthy. Also if she reduces her carbohydrate intake her hormones will change and she woud not be driven to snack. Also bowel cancer is driven to a large extent by gluten and the emulsifiers in things like ice cream chocolate and prepared sauces and other 'wet' processed foods.

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Hopalong13 stone in reply to Eryl

Thanks for this, Eryl . Food for thought 🍠🫛🥒🫑🥕🥔🍆🍅😊😊

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focused1Maintainer13kg in reply to Eryl

I have a manual job . I don't snack - mainly through conditioning as I realised the snacks were the weigh gainers . I have read your opinion on oats which are obviously carbs but these in a morning keep me full combined with fruit and yogurt . I don't eat many other daily carbs . I love food and variety . I find even eggs in a morning with spinach which seems to crop up a lot as a go to swift start to the day - tried and hungry - tempted too if I am hungry as many folk at work graze . What would you eat to feel full in the morning . I can leave the house around 6.20am then have nothing food wise till 13.15/30 so I have found that porridge helps although I acknowledge its pitfalls . I am here to learn - thanks .

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ErylVisitor in reply to focused1

As I said, lowering carb intake changes your hormones so when you eat very little carbohydrate you won't feel the physical need for breakfast (and when you overcome the habit). I eat breakfast very infrequently but when I do I'll have an avocado, or bacon and eggs.

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