Vit D causes Calcium levels to rise....doesn't magnesium do the opposite to Calcium or am I getting confused?

[Hashoo]

[nobodysdriving]

mmmmmhhhhhhh

I take 10,000iu of vit D daily yet my calcium stays in range spot on with no problems......

taking vit D can make your body need more magnesium to absorb it properly I know that is the relationship between the two....

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I have spoke to an LDN doctor who said vit k2 helps to put the calcium in the right place

[Hashoo in reply to Hidden]

K2?it's amazing how many vits there are out there!thanks, will check it out!

[RedApple Administrator in reply to Hashoo]

I'm currently reading this book:

Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life

You can read some of it through Amazon's Look Inside feature.

amzn.to/13hw2fp

Haven't decided yet whether or not it's all just marketing hype to get us forking out for the latest bottle of useless supplements

[justjaney]

never heard of vit K2 before but worth looking into if i sorts calcium levels out

[Jackie]

Hi Short answer is "No" K2 effects the cardiac system etc and is considered very dangerous except in food.Magnesium, a tiny range must always be in range. Calcium and D work together and VIt D makes the calcium go up, sometimes they are taken together but only with 3 monthly blood tests. If on D these 3 monthly tests are needed any way. If calcium goes too high ( above range) then the D has to be reduced until calcium in range. I used to take a lot of D as mine is very low, I have now had to stop taking it completely. All the elcetrolytes work together and must always be in range. That is very important to life. They are magnesium, calcium ( the corrected calcium on a blood result) , Potassium and sodium these 2 are in the U`s and E`s ( kidney function test). Any of these in food is fine in fact often desirable. This is according to my cardiologist, endo ,myself ( unfortunately from experience) and research into sudden death etc etc.

I hope this helps.

Jackie

[poing in reply to Jackie]

Where does it say that non-food vitamin K is considered dangerous? That's a new one to me.

[Jackie in reply to poing]

Hi I have not looked but may be the Mayo clinic, which is the site all the consultants use. I know because I have a very good Haematologist and cardio.A lot of things are very specialised knowledge and not always on WEB sites..I even have to watch ,how much I have in food ( and I do notice if I have too much from my blood tests I do daily at home)but that does not matter for most people.There is a fairly good blood test for magnesium, which has a tiny range. I think there is one for K too but never tried as, if too much , not much can be done about it.I ave to take magnesium as mine is below range otherwise. As I have to take magnesium ,I have to have weekly blood tests, it should be more,sometimes I have them daily.

Jackie

[RedApple Administrator in reply to Jackie]

Vitamin K2 is being touted as the latest wonder supplement There's a book about it.

Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life. You can read some of it through Amazon's Look Inside feature.

amzn.to/13hw2fp

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[Jackie in reply to RedApple]

Thank you.

Jackie

[cein in reply to RedApple]

Mmm interesting, I was given Vitimins by my GP ie Magnaset , B12 injections etc:

When I had gynoclogy surgery 25 yrs ago he gave me Vit K and Vit E for a month before and I had to increase my protien intake ? ....

When I mention to anyone that I was always prepared and health built up before surgery no one had ever heard of Vit K

[foxglove in reply to Jackie]

Hi Jackie,

Thanks for pointing out the dangers of vit K2 except in food . Many years ago was included in preparations to help with circulation esp. in products for chilblain sufferers but long since with drawn because of undesired effects on heart

Sometimes one's own body knows best - if only we could learn to listen and not Jump on every new "cure" which comes along - and yes I have been guilty of this myself!!!

P.S. Gouda cheese is a good sourse of vit K2

[foxglove in reply to Jackie]

Sorry, should have included this in last reply, vit K is manufactured in the intestines from other vits. Good general diet (old fashioned I know ) is prob. the answer

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Jackie]

Surely it's K1 that that affects blood clotting and K2 that puts calcium in the bones where it belongs - not in the arteries. I've read research that says a low dose of K2 (45mcg) is protective for people with heart problems.

[Jackie in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Hi, It is my understanding from my consultants that it is any K.A doctor wanted me to take it once, which is why I know how dangerous it can be. I did investigate but of course and after reading it up I was concerned , took the advice of my cardio and Haematologist and actual my very cautious GP.The problem is , as I am sure you are aware, every thing in the blood effects every other vit and mineral etc. I have not seen posts from you for ages, I hope all OK with you.

Jackie

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to Jackie]

I expect it depends on exactly what is wrong with you - the research article did say to check with your specialist to make sure.

I'm OK. But my insides are still not right after colonoscopy. I think I'll start mainlining probiotics!

[Jackie in reply to Angel_of_the_North]

Hi It does take a while. I cannot have milk but many years ago my then gastro said to take probiotics, in a tablet , quite expensive, H and B. They are all keen n on alternative medicine. I think because conventional never seems to help.

Best wishes,

Jackie

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Hope these articles are interesting, I take 3000iu vit d3 and 200mg magnesium, I've read vit d can deplete magnesium which I really important mineral. Dr Lawrence from Swansea advices a little k2 as it moves the Valium to the right places, touching on hashoo's comments I'm nervous of k2 so don't take it, but there does seem to be a relationship with k2 and calcium x

[Hidden in reply to Hidden]

"Valium" to the right places???? I think we could all do with that, wish it were true! I think that should read "Calcium".

I am reading Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox. I have also corresponded with the Author Dr Kate Rheaume-Bleue. In this litigious day and age in America I cannot see how some of the things in the book can be wrong or untrue like "there is no toxicity level of K2" and that it is safe and indeed necessary for children to take it for future bone health. If this was rubbish then she would be in a very dangerous place and would leave herself open to being sued right left and centre. As she has responded to me in the past can I suggest that anyone with a querie or who makes statements to others that K2 is dangerous contact her and see what she comes up with. I would be very interested to know as obviously each individual is different. Here is her contact:-

doctorkatend.com/blog/about/