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This doctor from Germany has come up with a different way of reflecting on advent.

Dr. med. Susanne Ruff-Dietrich

@medruff.bsky.social

It struck a chord of whimsy while being utterly focussed and serious.

Link to thread on sky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

The originals are all in German and I have used automated translation as my German language skills don’t deserve to be called skills! :-)

If the name looks familiar, think Johannes W. Dietrich. :-)

Obviously, about ten days to go!

#Advent calendar I was only on Bluesky for a short time when I posted a piece of wisdom about the thyroid every day during Advent last year. It was liked a lot and since I now have so many new followers, I will post it again this year. I'll attach the doors in this thread.

Door No. 1: The thyroid produces thyroxine. The free T3 and the free T4 (not bound to proteins) are measured, called fT3 and fT4. Of these two amino acids, T3 has only 3 iodine atoms, while T4 has 4 iodine atoms.

Door number 2:

TSH is not a thyroid hormone, but a hormone from the pituitary gland that signals to the thyroid how much hormone is needed.

If you are under a lot of stress, the value can rise slightly, even if the thyroid is healthy. If the thyroid is underactive, the value is significantly higher.

Door number 3:

In the case of hyperthyroidism, the TSH is reduced. Possible causes are a so-called "hot" nodule - an autonomous adenoma that is uncoupled from TSH control - or an autoimmune inflammation of the thyroid, short-term (e.g. Hashimoto) or long-term (Graves' disease).

Door number 4:

Thyroid diseases are very common. 3 to 5% of the population suffer from an underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), nodules are found in more than 10% (in those over 45 years of age even in more than 40%) and L-thyroxine is one of the 4 most frequently prescribed medications in Germany.

Door number 5:

The fT3 is the active hormone that acts in many places in the body, fT4 is the storage hormone, but also has its own effect.

If there is an iodine deficiency, the ratio of fT4 and fT3 can shift slightly towards fT3. An iodine deficiency can lead to cardiac arrhythmias.

Sorry, the 6th door is late. Now there are two doors one after the other.

Door number 6 (sorry for the delay):

Iodine: The dose makes the poison. Both a deficiency and too much can be harmful. An intake of between 200 and 300 µg/day is optimal.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/312...

Door number 7:

Iodine deficiency leads to enlargement of the thyroid gland, formerly known as goiter. This usually also causes nodules. They are usually benign with cystic parts and a less dense edge ("halo").

Using an ultrasound, the benign nature can be assessed using the Tirads criteria.

Door number 8:

During thyroid scintigraphy, radioactive iodine makes visible the areas of the thyroid that absorb a particularly large amount of iodine because a lot of hormone is produced there.

This can be used to find an autonomous adenoma, for example. Since the radiation exposure is very high, the benefits must outweigh the risks!

Door number 9:

TSH and fT4 form the control loop, even more precisely with fT3. The function of the thyroid cannot be fully analyzed with just the TSH value alone.

For example, the TSH can be low at the same time as the fT3 if there is a serious general illness. (Low T3 syndrome).

Door number 10:

Since TSH is produced in the pituitary gland, it can be reduced by a problem there.

Of course, this means that the thyroid is not working enough: a central hypofunction that can only be detected in the laboratory if fT3 or fT4 is determined. The symptoms are the most important clue!

Door No. 11:

Symptoms of an underactive thyroid can include: sensitivity to cold, weight gain despite loss of appetite, constipation, fatigue, apathy, dull hair, slow heartbeat, doughy swelling, low body temperature.

Not all of them have to be present.

oops, sorry,

I'll deliver door number 12 immediately…

Door number 12:

Symptoms of hyperthyroidism can be:

Heat intolerance, inner restlessness, palpitations, heart palpitations or racing. Weight loss despite increased appetite, diarrhea, increased body temperature, hair loss, bulging eyes. Not all of these have to be present.

Door No. 13:

Stress affects thyroid function: Patients with PTSD (after trauma) have an increased set point of the control circuit: the TSH level is increased despite a normal FT4 concentration. Diagnosis can therefore be difficult in cases of stress and certain mental illnesses.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/331...

Link to thread on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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amala57

I love this! Thanks for sharing.

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If you appreciate, and are signed up to bsky, how about giving the original posts a like?

Credit where credit is due.

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BadHare

Excellent, thank you!

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Fruitandnutcase

That is amazing, thank you helvella. It is also amazing how you find the things you find 😉

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BB001

Noo! It you stopped on 13 (for obvious reasons) 😂 . Really good, thank you for posting.

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Adding 14!

Door No. 14:

An autoimmune thyroid disease is the most common cause of an underactive thyroid.

Antibodies circulating in the blood cause additional symptoms that are still present even when hormone levels are well regulated. These include fatigue, susceptibility to infections, mood swings and much more.

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Door No. 15:

Contrary to the opinion that hypothyroidism is usually 'Hashimoto', Ord thyroiditis is also common. Both are autoimmune inflammations. In Hashimoto thyroiditis, the thyroid is enlarged, in Ord thyroiditis, it is reduced.

flexikon.doccheck.com/de/Or...

Link to day 15 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Door number 16:

The autoimmune disease Graves' disease causes attacks with hyperthyroidism. In this case, consuming large amounts of iodine is dangerous. Eating sushi, for example, can lead to heart palpitations and fever. An administration of amiodarone, for example by an emergency doctor, or a contrast medium examination can be fatal.

Link to day 16 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Door No. 17:

Severe thyroid dysfunction is life-threatening. Thyrotoxic crisis and myxedema coma still have a high mortality rate, but this can be significantly reduced with timely, specialized treatment.

Thyreotoxische Krise und Myxödemkoma

Thyroid Storm and Myxedema Coma

J. W. Dietrich

thieme-connect.de/products/...

Link to day 17 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Door number 18:

Normal values ​​of the thyroid do not show how the values ​​are related. The figure shows the relationship in the green area. For example, a TSH of 5 mIU/l with an fT4 of 15 pmol/l (1.2 ng/dl) can be normal, but a TSH of 3 with an fT4 concentration of 18 pmol/l (1.4 ng/dl) can be pathological.

Link to day 18 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

Pituitary response graph
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tattybogle in reply tohelvella

looks like a christmas tree :)

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tattybogle in reply totattybogle

any idea what the square is ?

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helvellaAdministrator in reply totattybogle

The reference intervals (ranges) for TSH and FT4 simply drawn as lines on the graph - and they intersect as a square.

Looks like 0.4 to 4 and 10 to 20 respectively.

At least, that is my interpretation. :-)

Without any further thought, someone with TSH of 3.9 and FT4 of 19.9 would be within ranges hence just fine. But thinking further, this implies a pathological issue - so cannot be green.

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tattybogle in reply tohelvella

oh , of course .... duh!

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Door number 19:

Thyroxine is a stress hormone and stimulates the heart. An fT4 in the upper normal range is associated with a 4 x higher risk of sudden cardiac death (compared to the lower normal range). This should be taken into account when taking it. Thyrotoxicosis means: thyroxine too high.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/276...

Link to day 19 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

Screenshot of PubMed link in original post
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Door number 20:

Medicine Slight thyroid disorders can cause severe heart problems

A systematic analysis of 32 studies with 1.3 million participants reveals new relationships.

Even slight dysfunction of the thyroid gland can be dangerous. A large analysis has shown that even hyperthyroidism and hypothyroidism where the normal limits are not yet exceeded significantly increase the risk of serious cardiovascular disease.

news.rub.de/presseinformati...

Linked paper:

Minor perturbations of thyroid homeostasis and major cardiovascular endpoints-Physiological mechanisms and clinical evidence

Patrick Müller 1 , Melvin Khee-Shing Leow 2 3 4 5 , Johannes W Dietrich 6 7 8 9

Abstract

It is well established that thyroid dysfunction is linked to an increased risk of cardiovascular morbidity and mortality. The pleiotropic action of thyroid hormones strongly impacts the cardiovascular system and affects both the generation of the normal heart rhythm and arrhythmia. A meta-analysis of published evidence suggests a positive association of FT4 concentration with major adverse cardiovascular end points (MACE), but this association only partially extends to TSH. The risk for cardiovascular death is increased in both subclinical hypothyroidism and subclinical thyrotoxicosis. Several published studies found associations of TSH and FT4 concentrations, respectively, with major cardiovascular endpoints. Both reduced and elevated TSH concentrations predict the cardiovascular risk, and this association extends to TSH gradients within the reference range. Likewise, increased FT4 concentrations, but high-normal FT4 within its reference range as well, herald a poor outcome. These observations translate to a monotonic and sensitive effect of FT4 and a U-shaped relationship between TSH and cardiovascular risk. Up to now, the pathophysiological mechanism of this complex pattern of association is poorly understood. Integrating the available evidence suggests a dual etiology of elevated FT4 concentration, comprising both ensuing primary hypothyroidism and a raised set point of thyroid function, e. g. in the context of psychiatric disease, chronic stress and type 2 allostatic load. Addressing the association between thyroid homeostasis and cardiovascular diseases from a systems perspective could pave the way to new directions of research and a more personalized approach to the treatment of patients with cardiovascular risk.

europepmc.org/article/MED/3...

Link to day 20 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Door No. 21:

Thyroxine promotes cell growth and therefore (if elevated) has carcinogenic properties. Even a high normal fT4 level is associated with a 13% higher risk of cancer. This was the case in the Rotterdam study for lung, breast, prostate and colon cancer.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/276...

While this might be concerning, the science is still unclear.

Link below is to papers which cite the above. And at least one claims that higher FT4 (but within reference range) is actually protective against biliary tract cancer.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?so...

Link to day 21 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

Screenshot of PubMed link
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Door No. 22:

General practitioners can easily and safely examine the thyroid using ultrasound. The size, structure, nodules (shape/gray lighter, the same light or darker than the thyroid) and blood flow should be taken into account. Strong blood flow is a sign of inflammation.

Link to day 22 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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helvellaAdministrator in reply tohelvella

Is an ultrasound device beyond the capabilities of our GPs?

I'd have thought that ultrasound scanners were approaching insignificance in terms of cost - and they might have uses other than thyroid!

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tattybogle in reply tohelvella

i suspect it might be (beyond them) .... i've never met one who felt capable to examine mine with their own fingers .

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Door number 23:

Thyroid dysfunction can affect fertility. If you are unable to have children, your thyroid should be checked. Both hypothyroidism and thyrotoxicosis should be treated. Unfortunately, the evidence is rather unclear.

link.springer.com/article/1...

Automatic translation of Summary:

Summary

Thyroid hormones and thyroid diseases play an important role in fertility, pregnancy and lactation. The various guidelines and expert recommendations for the diagnosis and therapy of thyroid diseases in the case of a desire to have children and pregnancy are partly heterogeneous and often without clear instructions for or against a certain measure, which causes a certain uncertainty. In this review article, we would therefore like to present the current evidence in this area with regard to practical instructions for action in order to provide the reader with a useful decision-making aid for practice. We will focus in particular on the current evidence regarding the treatment of latent hypothyroidism pre-conceptually, in infertility and during pregnancy, as well as on the importance of counselling and joint therapy decision in hyperthyroidism and desire to have children or in the case of infertility. Pregnancy. We would also like to emphasize in particular that various important studies were only published after the publication of the current guidelines in this area, which should of course be taken into account in the routine treatment of our patients. Since manifest thyroid diseases are pre-conceptual and are frequent during pregnancy and usually in need of therapy, we plead for a general screening for thyroid dysfunction in all women who want to have children and in all those with a positive pregnancy test.

Link to day 23 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

I highlight this highly appropriate message for nativity:

Since manifest thyroid diseases are pre-conceptual and are frequent during pregnancy and usually in need of therapy, we plead for a general screening for thyroid dysfunction in all women who want to have children and in all those with a positive pregnancy test.

Screenshot of top of paper
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Door No. 24:

During pregnancy, maternal and fetal thyroid metabolism are coordinated. Hypothyroidism is a risk factor for developmental disorders in the child and must be carefully managed. Both TSH and FT4 concentrations must be monitored.

Link to day 23 on bsky:

bsky.app/profile/medruff.bs...

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Wir wünschen unseren Lesern schöne Winterferien.

Wishing all the best to our readers over the winter holiday period.

Fröhliche Weihnachten

Unlike GP surgeries, shops, cafes, etc., we (like the Windmill) never close. :-)

But replies might be sparser and slower than usual.

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buddy99

Helvella, what a find! I love it. Thank you for sharing.

And what a fabulous idea on the doctor's part. Being of German origin I can muddle through and I know that advent calendars are a very big deal in Germany. What better way to inform about thyroid issues. I'm stoked!

Thanks again, Helvella! I'm always looking forward to your posts.

Happy Advent! :)

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jgelliss in reply tobuddy99

I second your motion too. Helvella has Great and informative posts.

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Kowbie

oh thankyou that was very good ,excellent,

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TSH110

door 15 is my type of disorder 😁

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pennyannie

I'm just wondering what you have up your sleeve for an encore in 2025 !!

Just want to give out ' a shout ' - and a Thank You -

to everybody who makes this forum the best place to learn all about thyroid -

where you find acknowledgement, support and a common sense approach to enable and

equip oneself better to understand the system and attempt to find better thyroid health care

and if all else fails - build back better one's own thyroid health and well being.

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helvellaAdministrator in reply topennyannie

All those who contribute time and effort - often based on their own experiences - are what makes the forum.

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pennyannie in reply tohelvella

Yes I agree - but some provide the icing !!

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Chelt16

Thanks so much for posting all of the calendar. Google translate did a good job. I've learnt a lot particularly around cardiac and thyroid relationship. I've never had a discussion with my gp about the link despite BP medication for 7 years! Just the statins offer which I've turned down.

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