Simple Table For Important Vitamins and minerals - would something like this be useful

[Sleepman]

Floating an idea.

As a bear with a small brain of increasing forgetfulness, it seems hard to keep track of all the knowledge from the group etc.

Probably needs caviats about patient to patient advise - check with your doctor etc.

For actual supplements we could link to recent posts or create another table ?

Do we need additional columns ?

How often we should test ?

Blood test name -

This is an excel document, not sure where it could be stored etc.

Source of the knowledge would be nice

I would welcome comments.

[greygoose]

You most definitely can have too much vit D and ferritin/iron.

Why is there the comment about a B complex in the 'ferritin' line? Ferritin is iron stores, it has nothing to do with B vits.

You could also note that magnesium should also be taken with vit D and K2.

[Sleepman in reply to greygoose]

Thank you GG

Ferritin was mistake.

Did not know about Magnesium needed with vit D and K2, I think this might be why I eat dark chocolate ... will check more

Think we are likely to have multiple opinions so could add another line in one of them ends being contentious in any way.

[greygoose in reply to Sleepman]

Vit D needs magnesium to convert to the form that is usable by the body. And you need to take it or the vit D will just deplete it. You're probably deficient anyway, most people are because soils are depleted due to modern agriculture methods. And being hypo will make that worse. Many functions in the body need magnesium. It's a wonderful thing to take.

But, no point in testing it because the results are not reliable due to the way the body handles magnesium. It will take magnesium out of the cells in order to have a good level in the blood. So, you could have a good result on a blood test but still be deficient in magnesium. But, the good thing is that it is water-soluble, so as long as your kidneys are in good health, just take it and any excess will be excreted.

But I'm rambling again, so I'll just shut up! lol

[AKatieD]

I would add my blood test results on the end

[Sleepman in reply to AKatieD]

Thanks - will look at and ranges.

[Sleepman]

Thanks for comments

Working through this using Helvella's blog and my saved posts with SlowDragons etc wisdom More to do but current version . Added when to dose, ranges of blood tests.

Current work in progress version

[Smileyface]

This is a brilliant idea, it would make it so much easier to have all this knowledge in an easy to read chart. Thank you its much appreciated the effort and time this is taking.

[Sleepman]

Just ordered magnesium ... thanks GG and forum.

Dr Kendrick blog post drmalcolmkendrick.org/categ...

I read on it on our forum ... staggering

Putting more links to useful posts on it as well

Vit C and Vit A - added.

Rev 2

[humanbean in reply to Sleepman]

Regarding your comment about "Can you have too much magnesium", the answer is yes, you can. See this link :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper...

In people with healthy kidneys and a normal diet and a sensible intake of magnesium it is probably rare to ever have too much magnesium because the kidneys will excrete any excess.

But in people with non-functioning kidneys/kidney failure, or very poor kidney function excess magnesium could build up.

I found this link on the subject that might be helpful - although I am not sure what dose of magnesium they were using (in mg) for their research.

Abstract : pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/291...

Full text : pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl...

[Calceolaria in reply to humanbean]

That’s the problem - many older people have reduced kidney function. Is magnesium safe or not? How can one tell?

[humanbean in reply to Calceolaria]

This picture is helpful :

i.pinimg.com/736x/84/db/58/...

The link I gave earlier

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

suggests that magnesium can still be helpful even at stage 4 kidney function.

[Sleepman in reply to humanbean]

Thanks. Makes sense.Will add. Mum is stage 3. Not a nice name CKD Chronic Kidney Disease.