Please help me

[Faith442024]

Hi again

Based on my results:

Ferritin - 37.6 ug/L 30 - 207

Folate - Serum - 24.1 nmol/L> 7 R

Vitamin B12 - Active 86.4pmol/L 37.5 - 188

Vitamin D - 81.8 nmol/L 50 - 250

TSH- 3.14- mIU/L 0.27 - 4.2

Free T3 - 4.2 pmol/L 3.1 - 6.8

Free Thyroxine - 17.8 pmol/L 12 - 22

could you please advise if these B vitamins will be enough to take for 6 weeks before I test myself again? These are multivitamins of course and B12 with folate.

Im short on budget at the moment because I've invested in a few tests that are on promotion.

Since I already have these supplements sitting in my drawer, I want to make use of them.

However, if these are not sufficient, I will of course buy different ones.

I'm already taking 2000IU of D3 & k2 - MK7 and l increased Levothyroxine to 125mcg daily.

I don't want to overdose with B12 so l might buy folate separatly, what're your thoughts please?

[GlowCoach Administrator]

You would be better off with 3,000iu of vit D + K2. Vitamin D should be around 100 - 150. Buy one that includes vit K2 to help it go to your bones. Some are available in oil or you can take it with an oily meal for better absorption. Many members like the ‘Better You’ range of mouth sprays that contain both bit D & K2.

Multivitamins are'nt recommended in this group for multiple reasons including containing iodine which isnt recommended, iron which prevents absorption of the other vitamins, too lower dose to raise levels to optimal and poor quality, inactive vitamins such as the one you have illustrated.

Whats your issue with taking too much vit B12? If you do take too much then it just gets excreted out in urine. It doesnt cause problems at all as a water soluble vitamin.

Most members need a good methyl B complex to help keep all the B's in balance as they work together.

B complex suggestions: Slightly cheaper options with inactive B6:

amazon.co.uk/Liposomal-Soft...

Contains B6 as P5P an active form:

bigvits.co.uk/thorne-resear...

healf.com/products/basic-b-...

Explanation about the different forms of B6:

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

B complex comparison spreadsheet:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Ferritin should be around 90 - 100 for best use of thyroid hormone. Suggest increasing iron rich foods in diet and eating them often. Chicken livers, pate, red meat etc

Link with ideas for dietary iron:

dailyiron.net/

I presume these thyroid results were taken on 100mcgs Levo in which case a 25mcgs increase will help.

[Faith442024 in reply to GlowCoach]

Hi Jaydee1507

I have ordered B complex, thank you!

I will be inreacing D3 &k2 to 3000iu and will be looking into dietetary sorce of Iron.

Thank you kindly

[humanbean]

I don't want to overdose with B12

You might find these links of interest.

perniciousanemia.org/b12/fo...

perniciousanemia.org/b12/le...

stichtingb12tekort.nl/weten...

[Faith442024 in reply to humanbean]

Wow! Thank you so much. Very informative, God bless you 🙌

[humanbean in reply to Faith442024]

I should have given you this link too :

perniciousanemia.org/b12/le...

[Noelnoel in reply to humanbean]

Thank you for those links. Interesting and informative

The first one connects to a website promoting methylcobalamin over all others. I don’t doubt the claims and indeed I considered the powder form from Oxford Bio Sciences for my husband but abandoned my effort because of the faff. However, methyl is always in the back of mind and this article has got me thinking again and reconsidering buying methyl from Oxford Bio Sciences

Sorry to hijack your post Faith442024 but humanbean, just briefly how easy is it to obtain the correct saline and from where?

Please, apart from humanbean, no replies to this post, it’s Faith’s. Would much appreciate though, private messages to me @Noelnoel

Thanks

[humanbean in reply to Noelnoel]

just briefly how easy is it to obtain the correct saline and from where?

I'm not sure what you are asking. Saline?

I buy 1000mcg methylcobalamin tablets from Amazon UK. There are lots to choose from.

I also buy 1000mcg methylfolate tablets from Amazon UK too. There are lots to choose from for methylfolate too.

I don't buy expensive brands because I seem to absorb B12 and folate quite well. I do have to be careful with folate - mine has a tendency to drop quite quickly if/when I drop my dose a lot.

If my level of B12 or folate has dropped a lot I will take the 1000mcg tablets every day. When my level is close to optimal I'll drop my dose to 1 or 2 a week, then test, then increase dose if my level has dropped even more, and will repeat this until I find the dose that maintains my level as close to optimal as possible.

If someone has never taken methylfolate before, some people have to build up their dose fairly slowly.

These are a list of side effects that might happen if someone isn't used to methylfolate.

mthfr.net/methylfolate-side...

dramyneuzil.com/methylfolat...

[helvella in reply to humanbean]

There is confusion.

 Noelnoel is referring to methylcobalamin powder for making up with saline into injectable form. Which is hard to obtain.

Whereas the general reference was to methylcobalamin as an oral supplement. As opposed to cyanocobalamin, hydroxocobalamin or adenosylcobalamin. This is available from a huge number of sources including online and in shops.

[humanbean in reply to helvella]

helvella Thank you for the explanation.

Noelnoel Sorry, but I don't know anything about saline for injection or how to source it. I've never injected myself with anything.

[Noelnoel in reply to helvella]

Thank you helvella

[Noelnoel in reply to humanbean]

The first link you provide is about injecting B12 in all its forms. It says that cyanocobalamin is toxic and that methycobalamin is best. In a nutshell

Husband has B12 deficiency and uses hydroxo injections but I’ve often wondered about the powder form of methyl (for injection). However, the correct saline for reconstitution is difficult to source

Thanks

[humanbean in reply to Noelnoel]

I would suggest asking on the Pernicious Anaemia forum. I think quite a few of the members on there self source and self inject everything they need to treat B12 deficiency and Pernicious Anaemia.

[Noelnoel in reply to humanbean]

There was a post about it a while ago which couldn’t help but thank you

[posthinking01]

Hi Faith - first of all - can you check the bottle for expiry date - and don't take if it is nearing the end date as they could have lost their potency. Also the B12 contained within the multi is very little so you could take the drops. Please be careful with the iodine which is a no no for some Hashi's patients as it causes further inflammation within the gland. I can recommend Nature's Best for their products - they are professional standard and I don't think that expensive if you want to start again - just let me know and I will help you decide if you so wish. Hope this helps.

[Faith442024 in reply to posthinking01]

Hi posthinking01

Thank you for your post!

I bought these drops over a year ago but the expire date is 2025 so l think lll be fine to take along with b complex lve just purchased from Thorne 🙌

I've stopped multivitamins.

Please kindly let me know your thoughts

B Complex with ingredients