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T3 and endo advice needed / East Sussex

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Hi, am really struggling to get T3 medication. I asked for an NHS referral to Sunil Z but got declined due to being out of area. I live in Brighton and he's Surrey and Sussex NHS. Can they just decline like this?

I don't have limitless funds to do endless private blood tests and consultations. The cost of living crisis makes it too expensive.

What do we do if you can't get T3 but are currently taking it?

I really wish we could take the NHS to court for malpractice around all this. It's a genuine nightmare!

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PinkSkittles profile image
PinkSkittles

I bought 2 boxes of t3 (100 tabs in each) for £39. Not sure if thats too expensive?

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zendogmaz22 in reply toPinkSkittles

Where? I didnt realise you could just buy it? That cheap compared to private prescription cost.

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply tozendogmaz22

Group guidelines mean that we cannt name sources of prescription medicines like T3 in the group. Please use the personal messaging system.

I will also add a warning as your post might attract a PM from one of the scammers.

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zendogmaz22 in reply toJaydee1507

Thank you. But I really just need to find effective treatment. All this text about scammers is making me more stressed in an already very stressful situation.

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply tozendogmaz22

You were asking for the source of T3 which is against our group guidelines. Forwarned is fore armed where scammers are concerned, especially if money is tight.

Roseway pharmacy offer a reasonable cost prescribing service.

I know its difficult in Sussex to get T3 prescribed. Can you contact your local integrated care board to find out about a referral out of area?

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zendogmaz22 in reply toJaydee1507

Am just so fed up with all of it. It shouldnt be such a battle. It's so draining when you're already chronically poorly.

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zendogmaz22 in reply tozendogmaz22

And those private endos and doctors on the list are money grabbers taking advantage of poorly people. Shame on them!

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Jaydee1507Administrator in reply tozendogmaz22

I agree with you completely. Thyroid UK are fighting for better treatment as are other organisations, mean time we can only work with whats available. It really is a post code lottery.

There's noone that I know of on the NHS in Sussex ICB. Ask them about it.

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PinkSkittles in reply tozendogmaz22

I will private message you. Its a website so Im not a scammer. Happy to say my real name privately.

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PinkSkittles

Interesting about being declined. Ive seen lots of Drs out of trusts and never been declined. How about trying the next closest Trust?

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zendogmaz22 in reply toPinkSkittles

Oh that's even weirder. I think he is the next closest. I live in Sussex which seems kinda cruel. You can't get much closer.

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PinkSkittles in reply tozendogmaz22

That's bad. I would try the next closest. Is there one?

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PinkSkittles in reply toPinkSkittles

I just checked the thyroid uk list- there is one in London who prescribes t3. Thats not far from brighton. You could do what im doing ask for a referral out of trust (again for you) and buy it yourself in the mean time for a few months.

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zendogmaz22 in reply toPinkSkittles

The Harrogate chap? I can try.

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PinkSkittles in reply tozendogmaz22

No Tooting. Harrowgate isnt in London

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Here’s link for how to request Thyroid U.K.list of private Doctors emailed to you, but within the email a link to download list of recommended thyroid specialist endocrinologists who will prescribe T3

Ideally choose an endocrinologist to see privately initially and who also does NHS consultations

thyroiduk.org/contact-us/ge...

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Smpeat in reply toSlowDragon

‘Ideally choose an endocrinologist to see privately initially and who also does NHS consultations’

Are you suggesting that once you see an Endo privately who also practices in the NHS they will eventually take you on as an NHS patient and continue to prescribe NDT or T3? My private Endo said he would see me in the NHS but would not be allowed to continue prescribing NDT. Compromise is I only see him once a year he gives me private prescription for NDT. I can contact him by email if I have any issues. This has cut down the costs but I find it galling to have to go private to manage a life long condition.

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Karen-Eleanor in reply toSmpeat

Hi Smpeat Really interested in knowing who this is - please could you pm me.? I’m about to trial T4/3 on NHS but might need a plan B to go back to AT. My Endo won’t prescribe NDT at all. Thank you

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toSmpeat

You won’t get NDT on NHS

If T3 suited, you could probably get that on NHS

Increasing numbers prescribed T3 alongside levothyroxine

over 64,000 prescriptions in England in last year

openprescribing.net/analyse...

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PinkSkittles in reply toSlowDragon

You can get NDT on the nhs. Thyroid uk has a list.

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PinkSkittles in reply toSlowDragon

Kent, Essex and Stafford all have Drs who prescribe Armour on the NHS. Ive also read that an NHS endo in Reading does too but its not mentioned on the thyroid uk list. Wales is also on an old thyroid UK list but not the current one.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toPinkSkittles

waveylines will be interested in this

Perhaps she will PM you to get contact information

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PinkSkittles in reply toSmpeat

Thyroid uk has a list and there are some nhs endos on there who prescribe armour NDT.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toPinkSkittles

Interesting…..wasn’t aware anyone on NHS would prescribe NDT for new patients

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PinkSkittles in reply toSlowDragon

I've asked for a referral to the Reading one. I'll ask him if he prescribes NDT to new patients.

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ThyroidieGriaffe

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Ppst by Charley Farley on patient rights, may help with out of area. It's worth challenging the ICB about why they want to keep you in area. Good luck.

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Delilahmy

hi Zendogmaz

I really wish we could take the NHS to court for malpractice around all this. It's a genuine nightmare!

Then maybe that’s what we should do ….. !!

It shouldn’t be this difficult to get support to get well …. To start t3 and to stay on it when it works …. And to help manage and monitor our own healthcare careplan

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SassyMH

I am in West Sussex and see an Endo in Buckinghamshire. I asked my GP practice to refer me to a specific Endo who I had heard was knowledgeable about Thyroid. First consultation was face to face, subsequent are telephone. I thought you could request anywhere in England?!!

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zendogmaz22 in reply toSassyMH

Maybe some of the in-demand ones dont accept referrals from anywhere but the area. Impossible to know. It's a lottery!

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Annib1 in reply toSassyMH

OK, but who pays for your T3?What are the rules in the 2 ICB's? I am in Devon and went to an NHS endo over the border in Somerset who prescribed me levo plus 20 mcg T3 daily but you cannot stay under the endo. You have to go back to your GP and my GP will only give me 10 mcg of liothyronine daily as those are the rules in Devon. I have to buy more privately to top it up.

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SassyMH in reply toAnnib1

My GP says if an Endo has said there is a clinical need then he will prescribe it, which he does. I know I am very lucky

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