Betaine Hydrochloride and ACV-low stomach acid

[madeline05]

Hi there,

I have a hiatus hernia, jus a small one by all accounts. Recently I have been having tests for thyroid problems due to finding a Nodulars on my thyroid with 1 dominate one 2.6cm. Also all vits and iron in bloods extremely low.

Anyway in the past 2 weeks my GERD has been so so bad, its seems to be everything I eat and it is so so painful. I've never been on medication for this, gaviscon just makes it 100 times worse.

I read on here to try betaine HC1 650mg ( I take 2) and I have to say immediately I got relief, instantly like a miracle. I also take 2 ACV tablets 1000mg in the morning.

My question is, is it ok to take both.

oh lastly Digestive enzymes, any info grateful thanks

Thank you x

[userotc]

I cant imagine any problem with taking both, depending how low youre acid level is although you could experiment with one for a while then two. Digestive enzymes also OK. But Id add the usual disclaimer/warning that you should see a qualified practitioner which would be a qualified Nutritional Therapist specialising in gastro (I can send links).

If you really prefer to experiment and want some comfort/anecdotal evidence that others do it, see inspire.com/groups/digestiv...

[madeline05 in reply to userotc]

Thank you userotc, sorry only saw your post now. Thks a mil xx

[humanbean]

I doubt that taking both betaine HCl and ACV could cause problems.

Some info you might find helpful :

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

[madeline05 in reply to humanbean]

Thank you so much, very helpful xx

[radd]

madeline05,

People usually take one or the other but if you aren’t suffering a burning warm sensation then I guess it is ok. I found great relief with betaine + pepsin, having to initially work up to a largish dose and then reducing as own gastric acid started secreting. Now I only need during the odd protein heavy meal.

I also took digestive enzymes and probiotics, and if your tummy is sore then slippery elm, marshmallow and glutamine is a good combo.

[madeline05 in reply to radd]

Thank you radd.

Can I ask you wHat you consider a largest dose? I am using the viridian betaine which is 650mg per capsule. I am taking 2 before each meal. Feel great on it. Do you think this is too much? Hard to find any info anywhere on dosage. Many thanks

[radd in reply to madeline05]

madeline05,

I was introduced to Betaine HCL under a practitioners care in 2015 and raised to 5 x 650mg capsules with my main meal and slightly less with breakfast and lunch (depending on what I was eating).

I have a great book called 'Why Stomach Acid Is Good for You' by Jonathan V. Wright who advocates huge doses way higher. I can't quote from it at present as just moved house and its still packed somewhere 🤷‍♀️, but it's a case of taking enough until you feel the 'warm gut feeling' and then reducing dose to one capsule less.

Gastric acid doesn't only help digest foods, signal to close the sphincter between the esophagus and stomach (so preventing GERD) but keeps bugs at bay, helps release Vit B12, liberates minerals from their salts & converts into ionic form (calcium, magnesium, zinc, iron, chromium, etc ,) so you might find nutrient levels start raising now.

Those who underproduce gastric acid will generally underproduce pancreatic enzymes also.

[madeline05 in reply to radd]

Thank you radd. That is so helpful to me. I feel I have suffered with my stomach alllll my life. I started these tablets sat and it honestly feels like a miracle to me the relief I am getting, its just unreal. I was worried 2 tablets before eating was too much but I feel better about that now. I also take 2 AVC first thing in the morning. I was going to add in a good probiotic aswell and maybe enzymes but I might leave t hem for a week and see how I am fairing on these. so far so good. I also have a hiatus hernia, not sure if I mentioned that in my post above but these tablets are hugely helping me.

How do you feel now?

BTW I might buy that book. thanks for the recommendation.

[Buxon]

I too have hiatus hernia and GERD. Initially I was prescribed meds to stop the vomiting plus gaviscon snd lanzaprozole. None of them were helping so I stopped taking the gaviscon and asked for lanzaprozole to be changed to esomeprazole. Thankfully I have changed my diet and eat shall portions more often. My stomach is not as severely troublesome.