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I increased my levo by 25mcg after my last results and these are my latest results (NHS lab)

Plasma free T4 level 11.9 pmol/L [7.7 - 15.1]

Plasma TSH level < 0.01 mu/L [0.34 - 5.6]; Below low reference limit

Plasma free triiodothyronine level 6.1 pmol/L [4.3 - 6.8]

My tsh is always suppressed as I’m on Liothyronine and I’ve had a Dexa scan which was okay.

They’ve said the T4 annd T3 are abnormal which I don’t understand.

I was waiting for these results to see someone privately as my GP said she can’t agree to the 25mcg increase of Levothyroxine without an endocrinologist’s approval.

I’m taking 100mcg Levothyroxine and 20mcg (split dose) Liothyronine.

My results in November 2023 were:

Plasma free T4 level 9.1 pmol/L [7.7 - 15.11) Reported as borderline by NHS lab

Plasma TSH level < 0.01 mu/L [0.34 - 5.6]

Plasma free triiodothyronine level 5.6 pmol/L [4.3 - 6.8] Reported as Borderline by NHS lab

Based on these results am I wasting my time seeing someone privately?

I feel much better for the increase but to be honest felt like I could increase it more. Based on those results I don’t think I can.

Thanks

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How much T3 are you taking

Do you normally split the dose

Which brand

How much levothyroxine and which brand

What about vitamin supplements

When were vitamin levels last tested

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

T3 ….day before test split T3 as 2 or 3 smaller doses spread through the day, with last dose approximately 8-12 hours before test

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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Ireness in reply toSlowDragon

Many thanks for replying.

I’m taking 20mcg T3 and split the dose plus 100mcg levothyroxine.

I did the test as you have advised at 8am fasting.

I was taking Teva brand but am now on Morningside for Liothyronine and Accord for levothyroxine.

I last had my vitamin levels checked in November 2023:

Plasma ferritin level 167 ng/mL [11 - 307]

Serum total 25-hydroxy vitamin D level 82 mol/L [> 50)

Serum vitamin B12 level 291 ng/L [211 - 911]

Plasma folate level 11.3 ng/mL [3.8 - 25]

Plasma C-reactive protein level )7 mg/L [0 - 7.5]

Thanks

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So how long before test was last doseT3

How did you split T3 day before test?

B12 is very very low

What vitamin supplements are you taking

Low B12 symptoms

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

methyl-life.com/blogs/defic...

With serum B12 result below 500, (Or active B12 below 70) recommended to be taking a separate B12 supplement

A week later add a separate vitamin B Complex 

Then once your serum B12 is over 500 (or Active B12 level has reached 70), you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.

If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week

Highly effective B12 drops

natureprovides.com/products...

Or

B12 sublingual lozenges

uk.iherb.com/pr/jarrow-form...

cytoplan.co.uk/shop-by-prod...

B12 range in U.K. is too wide

Interesting that in this research B12 below 400 is considered inadequate

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Low folate

supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help improve B12 levels too

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

Many Hashimoto’s patients have MTHFR gene variation and can have trouble processing folic acid.

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)

Thorne currently difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

Igennus B complex popular option too. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose

Post discussing different B complex

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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Ireness in reply toSlowDragon

I took 10mcg Liothyronine with 100mcg Levothyroxine at 6am yesterday morning then took another 10mcg Liothyronine just after 7pm.

I stopped taking all my supplements two weeks ago as I knew the blood test was booked.

There’s quite a few of my blood test results said borderline and repeat the test but my GP had only repeated some of the kidney and liver function tests.

One of the liver tests was abnormal which I thought might be due to the statin I’d been taking since last August so I stopped it. It’s normal now. My cholesterol has always been fine but the statin was to protect my heart. I may be wrong but I couldn’t see the point in damaging my liver to help my heart and I’m on meds for that anyway.

I’ll get one the B12 supplements you’ve recommended. I did get one with drops but they’re not very nice so didn’t take them regularly.

Many thanks for all your help.

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Ireness in reply toSlowDragon

Wow I didn’t realise B12 deficiency was so serious. I need to start making sure I sort all this properly.

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They’ve said the T4 annd T3 are abnormal which I don’t understand.

Well they aren’t abnormal

Who did this test

If private, which company

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Ireness in reply toSlowDragon

It was an NHS blood test which my GP requested

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Ireness in reply toSlowDragon

I’ve edited my post to put my last results on which were the same NHS lab

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