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Hi guys

Hubby update. His heart is fine 😅😅😅😅 the abnormalities shown in the stress ECG we’re not replicated on the debutinine echocardiogram so all is well … so cardio consultant recommended hubby sees a endocrinologist to check whether his diagnosis of autoimmune thyroid antibodies could be a cause of his low B12 and vitamin D as untreated it could lead to complications with existing heart disease conditions.

GP reaction is STILL that B12 deficiency is NOT an issue and “these private” consultants just want our money … that’s hubby’s inference of the GPS dismissal and sneering at the consultants’ letters.

So still no vitamin D prescribed so we will have to self treat.

A flat refusal to refer to an endocrinologist- even though we have private insurance and cardio recommends that would be sensible.

A refusal to even test FSH, T3 or T4 for monitoring purposes.

A expressed opinion that needing B12 more than once every three months to top up is “ridiculous” and 201 ng/l was more than adequate … and as to me injecting every day well … eyes rolled and rolled and rolled.

So where does hubby go from here? We have private health insurance but cannot access it as the GP refuses to refer!!! Anyone else encountered a similar situation? What was the way forward? Any ideas?

Thank you all in advance - tomorrow is a new day and we battle on.

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previous post with results

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First step is to get FULL thyroid and vitamin testing re done privately yourselves

Including full iron panel test as ferritin is high to test for hemochromatosis

Have you done this yet?

Have you organised coeliac testing too

Likely to benefit from strictly gluten free diet, but ideally test for coeliac disease first before cutting out

Thousands of U.K. members Self supplement to maintain OPTIMAL vitamin levels

Your husband is presumably now taking daily vitamin B complex?

Remember In week before blood test, when need to stop vitamin B complex, he might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

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What was vitamin D result?

Then come back with new post once you get results

Meanwhile plenty of endocrinologists don’t insist on referral from GP. You can self refer…….but you need up to date test results FIRST

List of thyroid specialists and endocrinologists

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Wwwdot in reply toSlowDragon

Hi SlowDragon

That was a fast response 😉

Hubby is only on B12 1500 ug once a week and 5mg folic acid.

He has dropped the Lansoprazole and no acid reflux.

Asprin is now enteric coated so no need for Lansoprazole ( why this wasn’t done from day one beyond me).

I am on grain and legume free diet and so hubby is too as I don’t want to cook dual meals.

I will get him into B complex.

No idea what his vitamin D, folate or ferratin levels are as GP refuses to test.

I will get the test done privately as you suggest and get him to an endocrinologist.

Apologies you have addressed many of these issues in a previous response - I am a little overwhelmed with all this medical stuff - physics and engineering so much easier!!!

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toWwwdot

No idea what his vitamin D, folate or ferritin levels are as GP refuses to test.

Got a particularly unpleasant GP there ….can you find a better one

Meanwhile

List of private testing options and money off codes

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Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

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Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

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Link about Hashimoto’s

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Symptoms of hypothyroidism

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Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

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Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

Monitor My Health also now offer thyroid and vitamin testing, plus cholesterol and HBA1C for £65

(Doesn’t include thyroid antibodies)

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10% off code here

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Full iron panel test

Test early morning, only water to drink between waking and test. Avoid high iron rich dinner night before test

Medichecks iron panel test

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Wwwdot in reply toSlowDragon

Hi SlowDragon

Thank you. I will organise the private tests. Sadly the GP is head of practice and as we are in a rural area changing GPs may be a challenge but I am going to phone around and see if I can find someone who’s at least open minded if they can’t be sympathetic.

I really appreciate all the info -a lot to take in but I will in time.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toWwwdot

GP is head of practice

so thinks he’s God

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toWwwdot

Asprin is now enteric coated so no need for Lansoprazole ( why this wasn’t done from day one beyond me).

I was really interested in this statement as my husband is on daily aspirin …and then omeprazole as well to counter the damage from aspirin

A quick initial look …..it seems enteric coating is not necessarily the answer

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/...

When it comes to rates of ulceration and bleeding, there’s no difference between enteric-coated and regular aspirin. The risk of ulcers and bleeding probably comes from aspirin’s effects in the bloodstream, rather than from where the drug dissolves and is absorbed.

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Wwwdot in reply toSlowDragon

That’s interesting (unfortunately so) SlowDragon. I know that Turmeric is contra indicated as it has the same effect on the blood as Asprin ie it’s anti platelet. Hubby may try Turmeric perhaps every other day or something but cardio said whilst he appreciates alternatives he’s bound by his training ie Asprin or equivalent.

I will research a bit more. Thank you.

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Jayneywales

left field comment here - often when you have health insurance there is a virtual GP service and they can do the referral following a telephone/video chat - that’s what I have been fortunate enough to do in the past.

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Holly_Tree in reply toJayneywales

I’ve done the same! My insurance has something called WeCare, but we weren’t automatically enrolled I needed to ask for the details. Private GP gave me a referral with no bother

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Wwwdot in reply toHolly_Tree

Hi Jayneywales and HollyTree

Genius! Yes, there is a GP access but I never used it! Thank you. That makes so much sense!

Thank you!

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Jayneywales in reply toWwwdot

Whooo hoooo

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overunbykids

I would try and change GP's as this one obviously thinks his opinion is all that matters and that he is infallible.

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Wwwdot in reply tooverunbykids

Hi overunbykids

If only! It’s a she and she’s head of practice. I am rural and finding a GP surgery who takes new patients is like finding hen’s teeth.

I will be looking around though … I do wonder what wound happen if she developed PA? Would she follow the NICE Guidelines then???

Thank you for replying

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