Advice on blood test results: Apologies if this... - Thyroid UK

Thyroid UK

141,182 members166,423 posts

Advice on blood test results

strawberryflower profile image
5 Replies

Apologies if this is in the wrong place.

I have central hypothyroidism and am taking 150 mg levothyroxine per day.

Mental and physical fatigue are pretty much constant. My GP wants to reduce the Levo. Is this correct?

Results from early August. ( I am having the tests done again next week.)

T4: 19.8 pmol/L (11 - 25)

T3: 4.7 pmlo/L (3.1 - 6.8)

TSH: 0.06 mU/L (0.27 - 4.2)

Written by
strawberryflower profile image
strawberryflower
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
5 Replies
SeasideSusie profile image
SeasideSusieRemembering

strawberryflower

My GP wants to reduce the Levo. Is this correct?

On what basis is he reducing the Levo dose?

Your FT4 is 63% through it's range, your FT3 is 43% through range, so both are well within range.

Your TSH is below range but with Central Hypothyroidism you can't use TSH as a guide because the feedback loop between the pituitary and the thyroid doesn't work so you ignore the TSH altogether. Presumably your GP doesn't understand Central Hypothyroidism, in which case maybe he should liase with the endo who presumably diagnosed CH or, God forbid, do some research himself so that he understands CH.

Here are a few clues so that your GP can learn about CH:

BMJ Best Practice

bestpractice.bmj.com/topics...

and another article which explains it:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

and another here:

endocrinologyadvisor.com/ho...

and another one:

academic.oup.com/jcem/artic...

Even if you didn't have CH your results do not suggest a dose reduction, if anything you could do with a dose increase.

(Not sure if you've guessed by I'm pretty intolerant of clueless doctors today 🙄 )

humanbean profile image
humanbean

I have central hypothyroidism

Is that diagnosis an official one? i.e. is it recorded in your medical records anywhere? Do you know who made the diagnosis?

If your diagnosis is official you really must get a copy of the correspondence from your medical records so that you can wave it at a doctor each time you see one. Otherwise they will look at your low TSH and tell you that you must reduce your levels of thyroid hormones.

The other reason for having a copy of that correspondence is that every time you have a Thyroid Function Test it must be made clear to the lab by the doctor ordering the test that you have central hypothyroidism - otherwise the lab is likely to just do TSH and possibly T4 and say they don't need to do the whole test. But with little or no TSH your treatment must be judged on your levels of Free T4 and Free T3. TSH is, and will always be, irrelevant to you.

Unfortunately, central hypothyroidism is vastly under-diagnosed in the UK and many doctors won't have come across it. [Edit : Or won't have recognised it when they saw it.] Doctors all assume that the TSH is absolutely 100% accurate and reliable. But anyone with central hypothyroidism can't produce adequate levels of TSH for their needs. Doctors think that central hypothyroidism is as rare as unicorn's teeth so they dismiss it, and don't know how to treat it.

T4: 19.8 pmol/L (11 - 25) 63% of the way through the range

T3: 4.7 pmlo/L (3.1 - 6.8) 43% of the way through the range

TSH: 0.06 mU/L (0.27 - 4.2)

Your levels of Free T4 and Free T3 are too low for many people with hypothyroidism. There are people on the forum who need Free T4 to be about 70% - 80% of the way through the range and Free T3 to be similar or possibly a little bit lower.

If your Levo is reduced you will end up very under-medicated.

SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator

Presumably you have an endocrinologist who oversees your care with central hypothyroidism

GP should not meddle with dose

Do you always get same brand levothyroxine at each prescription

Was test done as early as possible in morning before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Assuming yes

If anything you have room for small dose increase in levothyroxine to 162.5mcg daily

Essential to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least annually

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

When were vitamin levels last tested

Jazzw profile image
Jazzw

Noooo! Definitely don’t let the GP reduce your dosage. You aren’t over medicated. Sadly, it’s yet another doctor who doesn’t understand how thyroid problems work—and definitely doesn’t seem to have thought about what happens when you have central hypothyroidism. (Or rather, what doesn’t happen…)

strawberryflower profile image
strawberryflower

Thank you all for your replies. I will quote chapter and verse to GP.

I was diagnosed as central by a private endo ( Gatwick ) after being told I had chronic fatigue and to go for a walk in the sunshine by my local endo ( Hertfordshire ).

I was seeing the consultant in Gatwick privately and as my choice of endo on the NHS. Am I still under his care as an NHS patient, despite moving to Wales?

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

Advice on Blood test results

Afternoon, I've been having symptoms for the past 18 months that include; Fatigue - unable to...
KC6002 profile image

Advice on blood test results

Hi All I have recently had some blood test results and I am looking for some advice - I have had...
Isitthyroid profile image

Blood test results advice

Hi I have untreated hypothyroidism/hashimoto's (with a goiter) and am feeling absolutely awful....
Justine_Case profile image

Advice on my blood test results please

I am currently taking 150mg thyroxine, I have taken a higher dose in the past which didn't make any...
Beverleyb profile image

Thoughts/advice on blood test results

Hi, I posted on the forum just over a week ago, seeking advice as I seem to have hit a brick wall...
HBC76 profile image

Moderation team

See all
Jaydee1507 profile image
Jaydee1507Administrator
PurpleNails profile image
PurpleNailsAdministrator
SlowDragon profile image
SlowDragonAdministrator

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.