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Has anyone changed from Armour Thyroid to Thyroid-gold

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I haven't but know that Thyrogold was invented by Dr John Lowe, so that it didn't need a prescription.

Dr Lowe was a Scientist/Researcher and expert on T3 and was also an Adviser to Thyroiduk.org.uk before his accidental death.

Within the following link are some that refer to Dr Lowe's. method of treating patients.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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I haven’t but I have switched and began using a similar product a T3 (mostly) glandular product. I did try Thyroid-Gold, and suffered no ill side effects. It was at least four years ago when I tried it back in the day before I understood and couldn’t really read what my body was doing. The T3 product that I use is a bovine glandular similar to Thyroid- Gold. My thyroid has now healed to the point that I need it only rarely so the healing process continues. I have nothing but good things to say about Thyroid-Gold, and Dr. Lowe. Thanks to the good people here at Health unlocked and especially Shaws, I learned so much from Dr. Lowe - from my viewpoint Dr. Lowe is a savior to anyone who will review his research on auto immune disease, whether it be Hashimoto’s or fibromyalgia or chronic fatigue or any other numerous other new age diseases that have come on the scene in the last 50 years.

I was a long-time user of Armour Thyroid - more than 15 years and it worked wonderfully for a very long time. And then one day they began messing with the formulation and I went on a very rough and tumble roller coaster ride until I found a multi fauceted approach that I believe has healed or at least put in remission Hashimotos for me. The battle goes on but I do believe I am winning! (9 months and counting). In a way, I suppose I should be grateful for the Armour Thyroid reformulation.

Suggestion: Find and understand the difference between T3 and T4, (and what your specific needs are) for armor thyroid contains both. (I can’t remember whether thyroid gold contains both?)

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RachelP03 in reply todtate2016

Can you share the name of the thyroid glandular you mention that is mostly T3? And what has your winning formula been? I’m learning a lot from stories like your own! Thanks!

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dtate2016 in reply toRachelP03

I have followed the advice of Isabella Wentz and paid attention to the flora and fauna in the gut, she talks about S. Boulardi to help balance the gut. It’s a “once in awhile” thing I do. Then there is olive leaf extract to help fight any bad bacteria, etc. in the gut. Berber ine, turmeric, and D’mannose.

Dr. Allen Christianson agrees with some of the same things as Wentz, AND advises “resetting metabolism” with a 30 day diet of reducing iodine. Wentz wrote an endorsement for his book. Reducing iodine really helped me - switching to kosher salt (as opposed to iodize salt), there’s all kinds of hidden iodine in the modern diet. Dairy is a huge source of iodine as are egg yolks. (Commercial bread huge source of hidden iodine in the US). Wentz has taught for years that we should stay away from dairy and egg yolks - some of the same things that Dr. Christianson advises - but doesn’t really tell us about the iodine as the reason. I felt better within 10 days of reducing iodine. Probiotics and prebiotic‘s of all sorts are also added to my diet. I found a wonderful coconut cream kind of ice cream product - no dairy in it at all and full of probiotics and prebiotic‘s! I don’t even like ice cream or dairy and I love this coconut cream “medicine” that I found! Other sources of gut flora and fauna are fermented veggies sauerkraut and kimchi and so forth. I still take a glandular T3 product that I can get without a prescription. (I’m in the US) I literally take a few grains pull the capsule apart and take just a few grains every 10 days or so. Dr. Christianson advisers that the thyroid won’t really heal as fast or as well without a little bit of the medicine either T3 or T4 or combination of both. I have found this is true. And again I learned from Dr. Lowe all the reasons why T3 needs to be added and why a T4 only medicine doesn’t work for so many people. I was one of those people. It’s been a very long road over 30 years. I was too busy with work and family and children to really do the research and of course I didn’t have HealthUnlocked back in those days. But here I am a grandmother with a little time to take care of myself. 😊. Even in the hit and miss fashion of experimentation on myself - the body still heals. So I wouldn’t call it necessarily a winning formula but a dogged determination to look under every rock and try everything. And let me not leave out a lot of prayer, working in harmony with those prayers, and I do believe having prayers answered.

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Hi,Just curious: how do you know this glandular is mostly T3 since the manufacturers are not allowed to specify the hormone content of supplements?

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Thank you for the question, and opportunity to answer.

In communication with the distributors of Thyroid Glandular, they offer the following description: "Our Raw Desiccated Thyroid consists of the usable form of thyroid hormone (T3) from pristine New Zealand bovine (cows)." First time users would then, be obliged to extend an element of trust, one would have to admit.

However, in the spirit and well documented research of Dr. John Lowe, how one feels upon embarking on a course of treatment is at least a fair indicator of what is in the supplement.

Does it work as described? (yes). Then, as many can attest, and as many who have found no other alternative than to experiment (Unfortunately) in finding the right dosage / treatment, then these ones come to know how T3 "feels", how it works quickly and subsides quickly (within hours), as opposed to T4, which takes longer to "titrate" over days and weeks, and likewise, if one becomes overdosed / toxic with T4, over time, one comes to know the feeling and "experience" and when it is time to cut back. I know, and can feel the difference between T3 and T4.

Again, this is not necessarily a recommended nor desired way of treating Hashimoto's - if only blood tests told the whole story! How I feel on thyroid glandular, as opposed to pharmaceutical T4 - how one feels tells me what I need to know. I know how T3 clears the thought processes, how energy returns, how blood pressure stabilizes, how a sense of well being returns (as opposed to anxiety) yes, when the dosage is right for me, and well balanced.

It would be sorely lacking on my part if I did not stop and thank the many people here on HealthUnlocked for the confidence to trust and understand this physical ability and measuring tool of "feeling well" - how it truly is a reliable method of judging and knowing the difference between T3 and T4. Of what others have found that works, and what does not.

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OK, but that just means that the product contains undeclared amounts of T3 (as well as undeclared amounts of T4), as there is no way (to my knowledge) to extract only one hormone from thyroid tissue. I am not saying this product is not good - I am sure it is - but that it is bound to contain T4 along with T3. The T3/T4 ratio in bovine thyroid is slightly different than the one in porcine thyroid - 1:5 vs 1:4. Interestingly enough, 1:5 is the ratio in prescription combo drugs such as Thyrolar (US) and Novothyral/Euthyral (Europe). This could explain why some people who need slightly more T4 and slightly less T3 feel better on combo drugs or bovine thyroid than porcine thyroid. I have been tempted to try bovine thyroid myself- there is one product that has been getting consistently great reviews - but I am a bit hesitant to as I´ve read that the hormone levels in cows fluctuate more than the hormone levels in pigs. However, since Dr. Lowe chose bovine thyroid to be included in his product, I doubt bovine thyroid is in any way inconsistent...I may very well try it. It´s cheaper than all brands of porcine NDT, incl Thai NDT, the price of which has also skyrocketed...would you mind PM´ing me the name of the supplement you referred to?

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Can you PM me the name of the product getting rave reviews please, I am still gathering info!! Thanks

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply todtate2016

dtate2016, I'm a little confused here. Are you connected to Forefront Health? Why are you endorsing this product? Please be aware that advertising is not permitted on this forum.

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shawsAdministrator in reply todtate2016

Even though T3 reaches our T3 receptor cells quickly, it does saturate all of our T3 receptor cells but it's effect *for that one dose' can last for between one to three days.

I trialled this myself - took my one dose (usually when I awake with one glass of water) and took no T4 on day two or day three and my one dose of T3 did last and I had no symptoms and felt the same as usual.

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Thank you for all the information, very helpful as I’m at the start of my quest to good health!! I’d be interested to know the glandular name you use as I have DI01 and DI02 defects so more T3 is better but I’m thinking of glandular trial first over T3 as I’ve heard better to try that first as easier to dose. Anyway, thanks again and if you can provide the name of the one you use, even if a PM to me, that would be lovely! Take care!

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply toRachelP03

RachelP03, This is a glandular product. It is not a substitute for replacement thyroid hormone. This is a direct quote from the website

'*Note: We recommend using our Raw Desiccated Thyroid in addition to your medication, not as a replacement. '

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RachelP03 in reply toRedApple

Thank you, what is the glandular name?

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply toRachelP03

RachelP03, This thread is fast becoming an advert/endorsement for a product that the OP has not asked about.I suggest you message dtate2016 and discuss the glandualr with her via the messaging system.

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naturallyours I am closing your post to further comments as no-one has answered or is discussing your actual question.Please feel free to post your question again though :)

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