Thyroid S

[Blackpanther46]

Does anyone know why there has been a shortage of thyroid S ? Was it due to swine flu or another reason ?

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

The only explanation I have heard is that swine flu resulted in the culling of millions of pigs so there was a shortage of raw material.

[Blackpanther46 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Ok that’s strange isn’t it though when there plenty of pork available throughout the world to buy in shops isn’t it ?

[SeasideSusie Remembering in reply to Blackpanther46]

But from what I understand China produces half the world's pigs and that's where most of the thyroid powder comes from.

[Blackpanther46 in reply to SeasideSusie]

Oh ok I wonder why there’s still been so much pork available to buy if that’s the case maybe in our part of the world we don’t have pork from China or something

[helvella Administrator in reply to Blackpanther46]

It has hit Germany already.

It might just be a matter of time before African Swine Fever and/or Classical Swine Fever hit the UK.

[Blackpanther46 in reply to helvella]

Oh no hope not

[serenfach]

Slaughter house regulations in GP mean that the throat is cut out completely and dumped, and cannot be used. The same goes for head meat, cheeks and tongue are allowed but nothing else. This is partly because pigs wall up TB in the neck glands. Blood from UK pigs is also not allowed so someone wanting to make black pudding has to import dried blood from somewhere like Holland.

The Chinese pig herd is now growing slowly which is hopeful for the return of NDT. The UK imports pork from places like Holland, but most fresh pork is home grown. There was a huge rise in the amount of trotters we exported to China as they have a value there. I used to sell them mostly to Asian customers, but sometimes little old ladies who told me how much they loved them. I never tried them. I had a waiting list for cheeks - best bit of the whole pig!

[helvella Administrator in reply to serenfach]

I regularly make soup from hock/hough.

And there is BIOFAC in Denmark:

biofac.dk/products/thyroid-...

[tattybogle in reply to helvella]

i wonder who they sell that to.....

[helvella Administrator in reply to tattybogle]

So do I.

I have long suspected it could be ERFA. Which, despite being thought a Canadian product, is manufactured in Spain (and was earlier made in another EU country - possible Belgium?).

But there is also Thyroid powder from BIOIBERICA S.A.U. Is it possible that BIOFAC produce powder, and BIOIBERICA make it into standardised product for use in manufacturing tablets? Could that be why ERFA moved production to Spain?

bioiberica.com/en/products/...

ADDING:

There was Cinetic in Italy - disappeare from the market a number of years ago.

And this somewhat questionable information: DENMARK’S THYREOïDUM for NETHERLANDS from Biofac in Kastrup, Denmark. Imported into the Netherlands from BUFA/Fargo, importers of pharmaceutical products.

[tattybogle in reply to helvella]

mmm.. Thyroid API from Bioiberica is entirely of European Animal Origin....i'd always assumed EU regulations on meat safety etc meant we couldn't use thyroids from EU pigs and that this was the reason there's not a European NDT product ..... i stand corrected

[helvella Administrator in reply to tattybogle]

And Metavive say:

Metavive I contains freeze-dried porcine thyroid gland from Procepts’ proprietary high welfare farms in the United Kingdom, where the pigs are raised on non-GMO feed, without the use of growth-promoting hormones or antibiotics.

the-natural-choice.co.uk/Me...

I suspect that use of such products might require additional licences or procedures to be applied. That is, in general not allowed but can be if appropriate.

[Isilune77 in reply to helvella]

Hi helvella, have you tried Metaville? How di you move from NDT to this? All it says it's that it's 40 mg. Thank you

[helvella Administrator in reply to Isilune77]

I have never taken any desiccated thyroid or glandular at all!

The 40 milligram Metavive replaced an earlier product rated as 15 milligrams. They reformulated the product to include "nucleotides".

But you can NEVER equate a glandular like Metavive which does not claim any thyroid hormone contents with a prescription desiccated thyroid like Armour or Erfa.

You are likely to get more replies by posting your own new post rather than a reply on a three-year-old post which most members will miss!

[tattybogle in reply to serenfach]

but sometimes little old ladies who told me how much they loved them. I never tried them.

I don't know about eating them but , every christmas my grannie used to make a pork pie the size of a quality street tin.. and it needed a few trotters to make the jelly to put in the hole in the top after it was cooked.

i keep promising to have a go myself. but no one knows what happened to her 'best' recipe.

[Blackpanther46 in reply to serenfach]

Oh Thankyou that’s very interesting I never knew they cut the throat out in uk

I wonder where Americans get there’s from mainly ?