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Morning everyone,

I hope you don't mind having a look at my Medichecks test results that I received this morning.

I had posted a week or so ago about my blood results from the GP and she was happy with my thyroid function, however my symptoms, family history and the fact I have type 1 diabetes made me feel like something is definitely going on.

B12 - 40.9 (Range > 37.5)

Vitamin D - 25.5 (Range 50-175)

TSH - 2.73 (Range 0.27-4.2)

Free T3 - 4.66 (Range 3.1-6.8)

Free T4 - 11.1 (Range 12-22)

Thyroglobulin Antibodies - 177 (Range <115)

Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies - 263 (Range <34)

The doctor report from Medichecks suggested that my thyroid is normal and to not be concerned about the raised antibodies.

Thank you

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Doctors report from Medichecks is WRONG

High thyroid antibodies confirms autoimmune thyroid disease

Ft4 is BELOW Range

Ft3 is low

Vitamin D is deficient

B12 is so low that you need full testing for Pernicious Anaemia before starting any B12 or vitamin B complex

Any folate or ferritin results ?

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Samanthamcx in reply to SlowDragon

Folate - 5.46 (Range >3.89)Ferritin - 36.30 (Range 13-150)

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

So these are far too low as well

Getting all four vitamins optimal should either improve thyroid results....or (more likely) increase TSH so that you can be prescribed levothyroxine

Folate will need improving, but not until had further testing done for Pernicious Anaemia

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Samanthamcx in reply to SlowDragon

I've got a call with a different GP tomorrow as my normal GP isn't available - maybe a fresh opinion will help

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Many GP’s will insist on repeating tests via NHS before prescribing any medication

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Low ferritin

GP unlikely to agree to full iron panel test for anaemia

Never supplement iron without doing full iron panel test for anaemia first

Post discussing why important to do full iron panel test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

So instead at the moment suggest you look improving by increasing iron rich foods in your diet - like liver or liver pate once a week plus other red meat, pumpkin seeds and dark chocolate, plus daily orange juice or other vitamin C rich drink can help improve iron absorption

List of iron rich foods

dailyiron.net

Links about iron and ferritin

irondisorders.org/Websites/...

drhedberg.com/ferritin-hypo...

This is interesting because I have noticed that many patients with Hashimoto’s disease and hypothyroidism, start to feel worse when their ferritin drops below 80 and usually there is hair loss when it drops below 50.

restartmed.com/hypothyroidi...

Post discussing just how long it can take to raise low ferritin

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thyroid disease is as much about optimising vitamins as thyroid hormones

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Samanthamcx in reply to SlowDragon

Would vitamin treatment be enough or does my thyroid need treatment also?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

A GP would be unable to treat thyroid as TSH is “normal “

Getting all four vitamins improved is first step

Only add one supplement at a time

First one obviously will be vitamin D

Improving low ferritin

Starting on B12 supplements and vitamin B complex once had testing for Pernicious Anaemia done

Strictly gluten free diet may be very beneficial but get coeliac blood test first

Retest thyroid in another 2-3 months

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Samanthamcx in reply to SlowDragon

Thank you - anything that helps me feel a bit better will be fantastic.

I've had coeliac done at the beginning of the year due to heavy and painful periods and that was all good.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances. Most common by far is gluten. Dairy is second most common.

According to Izabella Wentz the Thyroid Pharmacist approx 5% with Hashimoto's are coeliac, but over 80% find gluten free diet helps, sometimes significantly. Either due to direct gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and slowly lower TPO antibodies

As you have already had negative coeliac test you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/300...

The obtained results suggest that the gluten-free diet may bring clinical benefits to women with autoimmune thyroid disease

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

So heavy periods are common hypothyroid symptom

Did GP do full iron panel test back then?

If not, request they do one now

Strictly gluten free diet can be beneficial to type one diabetics too according to Susan Blum in her book The immune system recovery plan

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Samanthamcx in reply to SlowDragon

I don't think so, it was my diabetic consultant that done it and he done that and cortisol hormone and they were fine.

I'll look at stopping gluten - I'll do some research today as I've never considered it before and I understand gluten is in a lot of foods and sauces

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Yes gluten is hidden in loads of foods

Read all labels

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See GP

Request full testing for Pernicious Anaemia

Vitamin D is deficient

GP should prescribe at least 1600iu everyday for 6 months

But you’re so close to 25nmol, really want LOADING dose of 300,000iu prescribed over 6-8 weeks

NHS Guidelines on dose vitamin D required

ouh.nhs.uk/osteoporosis/use...

Vitamin D

GP will often only prescribe to bring levels to 50nmol.

Some areas will prescribe to bring levels to 75nmol or even 80nmol

leedsformulary.nhs.uk/docs/...

GP should advise on self supplementing if over 50nmol, but under 75nmol (but they rarely do)

mm.wirral.nhs.uk/document_u...

But with Hashimoto’s, improving to around 80nmol or 100nmol by self supplementing may be better

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/218...

vitamindsociety.org/pdf/Vit...

Once you Improve level, very likely you will need on going maintenance dose to keep it there.

Test twice yearly via vitamindtest.org.uk

Vitamin D mouth spray by Better You is very effective as it avoids poor gut function. There’s a version made that also contains vitamin K2 Mk7

amazon.co.uk/BetterYou-Dlux...

It’s trial and error what dose we need, with hashimoto’s we frequently need higher dose than average

Calculator for working out dose you may need to bring level to 40ng/ml = 100nmol

grassrootshealth.net/projec...

Government recommends everyone supplement October to April

gov.uk/government/news/phe-...

Taking too much vitamin D is not a good idea

chriskresser.com/vitamin-d-...

With your Vit D, are you also taking it's important cofactors - magnesium and Vit K2-MK7?

Magnesium best taken in the afternoon or evening, but must be four hours away from levothyroxine

betterbones.com/bone-nutrit...

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

livescience.com/61866-magne...

sciencedaily.com/releases/2...

Vitamin K2 mk7

betterbones.com/bone-nutrit...

healthline.com/nutrition/vi...

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Also request coeliac blood test from GP

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Active B12

Any result under 70 is considered suspect and further investigation required

viapath.co.uk/our-tests/act...

>70*; * between 25-70 referred for MMA

nutris.viapath.co.uk/pages/...

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SeasideSusieRemembering

Samanthamcx

The doctor report from Medichecks suggested that my thyroid is normal and to not be concerned about the raised antibodies.

Can you post exactly what Medichecks comments say.

Medichecks have been known to give incorrect advice before.

In your position, with these results, I would be contacting them and asking for an explanation as to why they have not mentioned that raised antibodies can suggest autoimmune thyroid disease and why they have said your thyroid is normal when your FT4 is clearly below range.

This needs pointing out to them so they can investigate and ensure that the doctor who commented on your results doesn't continue to make these mistakes.

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Samanthamcx in reply to SeasideSusie

"Your thyroid peroxidase antibodies are elevated. This means your risk of developing future thyroid disease is increased compared to someone who has normal levels of these antibodies, but this risk is still considered to be low (3-5% chance in 1 year)."

"Your thyroglobulin antibodies are positive. These antibodies are found in 1 in 10 normal individuals but can be associated with uncommon autoimmune thyroid issues, especially Hashimoto's.

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"Up to 25% of people with normal thyroid function will test positive for thyroid antibodies, the presence of thyroid antibodies does increase the likelihood that they may develop thyroid problems, however many will not go on to develop thyroid disease. I suggest monitoring your thyroid function on an annual basis, or more frequently if you develop new symptoms."

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Samanthamcx

Samanthamcx

So the comments didn't exactly say "not to be concerned about the antibodies". They did point out the likelihood of future thyroid disease and autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's). However, Hashimoto's isn't "uncommon", it's the most common cause of hypothyroidism. In that case you can't complain about dismissing your raised antibodies.

However, you most certainly can ask for an explanation as to why they have said a below range FT4 is considered normal.

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Samanthamcx in reply to SeasideSusie

Apologies, I've got mixed up - this is the comment about the cause for concern;

"Your thyroid shows that your free thyroxine is slightly low however your thyroid stimulating hormone is normal which suggests a healthy thyroid function. The low thyroxine is likely to be a transient finding and not a cause for concern."

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Well the low Ft4 may be the RESULT of very low vitamin levels

But it’s more likely the very low vitamin levels are the result of very low Ft4

But this is poorly understood by average GP

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Samanthamcx

Any comment about low Active B12

Assume that they did flag up deficient vitamin D

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to SeasideSusie

I was just going to say something similar

Comments are often poor, but these seem worse than average

They haven’t made any comment about below range Ft4 at all

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SlowDragonAdministrator

All Patients with autoimmune thyroid disease should really have vitamin D tested annually

Low Ft4 linked to low vitamin D

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/300...

The thyroid hormone status would play a role in the maintenance of vitamin D sufficiency, and its immunomodulatory role would influence the presence of autoimmune thyroid disease. The positive correlation between free T4 and vitamin D concentrations suggests that adequate levothyroxine replacement in HT would be an essential factor in maintaining vitamin D at sufficient levels.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/286...

Vitamin D deficiency is frequent in Hashimoto's thyroiditis and treatment of patients with this condition with Vitamin D may slow down the course of development of hypothyroidism and also decrease cardiovascular risks in these patients. Vitamin D measurement and replacement may be critical in these patients.

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Samanthamcx

Had a call with my GP this morning - he says my thyroid function is fine going by my blood results but is doing his own check of my blood count and B12.

I am going for ICSI treatment next year and I am terrified this will have an impact on our success rate given how Hashimoto's can have an impact.

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