Multivitamin with Soya

[vakilzf]

I m hypothyroid and take Eltroxin If I take a multivitamin with Soya will it interfere I have checked with the doctor and he says No

[greygoose]

Well, he would, wouldn't he, because he actually has no idea.

Soy inpedes the uptake of thyroid hormones by the cells. So, you can have good levels in the blood, but still feel hypo. So, not a good idea at all.

In fact, multi-vitamins in general are a very bad idea, for all sorts of reasons:

* If your multi contains iron, it will block the absorption of all the vitamins - you won't absorb a single one! Iron should be taken at least two hours away from any other supplement except vit C, which is necessary to aid absorption of iron, and protect the stomach.

* If your multi also contains calcium, the iron and calcium will bind together and you won't be able to absorb either of them.

* Multi's often contain things you shouldn't take or don't need : calcium, iodine, copper. These things should be tested before supplementing.

* Multi's often contain the cheapest, least absorbable form of the supplement : magnesium oxide, instead of magnesium citrate or one of the other good forms; cyanocobalamin instead of methylcobalamin; folic acid instead of methylfolate; etc. etc. etc. This is especially true of supermarket multis.

* Multi's do not contain enough of anything to help a true deficiency, even if you could absorb them.

* When taking several supplements, you should start them individually at two weekly intervals, not all at once as you would with a multi. Because, if you start them all at once, and something doesn't agree with you, you won't know which one it is and you'll be back to square one.

* Most supplements should be taken at least two hours away from thyroid hormone, but some - iron, vit D, magnesium and calcium (should you really need to take it) should be taken at least four hours away from thyroid hormone.

* The magnesium you take - and just about everybody need to take it - should be chosen according to what you want it to do:

Magnesium citrate: mild laxative, best for constipation.

Magnesium taurate: best for cardiovascular health.

Magnesium malate: best for fatigue – helps make ATP energy.

Magnesium glycinate: most bioavailable and absorbable form, non-laxative.

Magnesium chloride: for detoxing the cells and tissues, aids kidney function and can boost a sluggish metabolism.

Magnesium carbonate: good for people suffering with indigestion and acid reflux as it contains antacid properties.

Worst forms of magnesium: oxide, sulphate, glutamate and aspartate.

With a multivitamin, you are just throwing your money down the drain, at best, and doing actual harm at worst. Far better to get tested for vit D, vit B12, folate and ferritin, and build up your supplementation program based on the results. A vitamin or a mineral is only going to help you if you need it, anyway. More of something you don’t need is not better, it's either pointless or even dangerous, as with iodine, calcium, iron or vit D.

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

vakilzf

I absolutely agree with greygoose - no soya, no multivitamins. In fact I mentioned in reply to your last post that multivitamins are not recommended.

[Lalatoot]

greygoose has said it all and this is very good advice.

It was iodine in a multi-vitamin that helped tip my thyroid over the edge. I don't have graves or hashimotos or any family history of thyroid problems so that was the conclusion.

[PavlovaDog]

I have to disagree with everyone because this very same question... the safety of soy... I worried about for some time. I started researching it in depth digging deep into actual medical studies and I came up with numerous studies from different countries that demonstrated soy is actually beneficial to health, not harmful. I know everyone in the holistic and natural health community online insists soy is an endocrine disruptor however they are all just repeating what they have heard that has been repeated and repeated across the internet. I found that original information was actually put out by Weston Price Foundation which owns dairy farms and big dairy has for decades been at odds, that is in competition with the soy farming industry. If you research the Foundation they have a unscrupulous past and in recent years there is a particular number of their foundation members dying early deaths of cardiovascular disease. What I found out from researching was that a phytoestrogen *might* act as an estrogen in the body, but that is not the same as guaranteeing that it will. What Japanese medical studies showed is that soy milk actually protects people from the more dangerous form of estrogen, estradiol. It also has been shown to increase bone density and even be protective against cancer. As far as I could tell these Japanese studies were not paid for by the farming industry unlike many studies in the US that are paid for by companies that stand to profit depending on how they can influence the study outcomes to turn out. I did an experiment on myself this past winter and switched to soy milk for several months and my health improved, I went back to cow's milk and suddenly I am having all sorts of problems. I'm not saying take my word for it; what I recommend is you do some deep research and not just believe anything that gets repeated over and over again across the internet. Over the years I have come to realize the natural healthy community is profit driven just as much so as the allopathic big pharma community and they battle back and forth trying to get your money. As far as your thyroid medicine and taking a multivitamin if it has calcium or vit C in it it can bind to the thyroid med and make you absorb less of it unless separated by 4 hours.

[Hidden in reply to PavlovaDog]

Hi Pavlova and @vakilzf

I became hypo in Jan 19, so 'researched' a lot then about soya and other things.

As a vegan, I have been drinking a litre of soya every day for 30 years

Coming on this forum and searching, I found many people advised not to take soya, as it may be goitregenic. So, I stopped soya in Aug 19.

However, reading your post, I am minded to try soya again.

Thanks!

Alps

[PixieElv in reply to PavlovaDog]

Hi PavlovaDog,

Do you have any of the links on the research? I too eat/drink soya products and am worried it impacts on T3 absorption.

thank you very much

[PavlovaDog in reply to PixieElv]

I didn't save links to the research as I found many medical studies years ago stating it was beneficial and most of those studies were from Japan. I did get an old book recently called Soy Smart Health by Dr. Neill Solomon that has a lot of information in it similar to the medical studies. I purchased it off either Alibris or Amazon I forget which.

[PixieElv in reply to PavlovaDog]

I just googled Dr. Neil Solomon. He was struck off for malpractice. 😳

I thought you might want to know...

latimes.com/archives/la-xpm...

[vakilzf]

Thanks for explaination but I need to know only question if I take multivitamin with Soya which is approx 06hours after I have had my thyroid is it safe to use .Like you I hear confusing reports of Soya and I wish to know as I wish to educate myself on my condition .Secondly I have checked with my endo and he says it ok but sometimes listening to doctor's is always not a solution to problem It is always better to do one's own research as Doctor also can be misinformed on alot of things

Some people Soya is good while Some people it is bad so it is very confusing considering we are dealing with hypothyroidism & its interaction's Thanks your time and research it has really helped

[Hanorah7]

Hi sorry I took so long to reply ..I hope you are well..I 've been taking eltroxin 100 mcg for 5 years.i have been doing ok with it.my tsh levels are controlled..but I also do not eat alot of foods...no soy or soy products no gmo no gluten no meat just fish and eggs..in terms of my weight it really fluctuates alot and still I lack energy to exercise at times.. I hope this helps....i have to say only people with hypothyroidism know what its like to have this ..