Androgenic hair loss

[Angelic69]

Hi all, as you know I've been suffering from burning scalp followed by excessive hair loss since starting HRT. I discovered that progesterone derived from testosterone like the oral tablet I was given contains such a progesterone. These androgenic types are as follows, norgestrel, norethisterone, and levonorgestrel they are androgenic and can cause hair loss. I will add a link for those of us that are suffering. The link includes several labs that can confirm the condition and rule of the thyroid link. The link notes that some people are very sensitive to androgens which can cause an inflammatory type of hair loss. I've added another link which describes another type of hair loss called cicatricial alopecia which I think is also important.

If a GP practice falls to recognize signs of the above and either doesn't treat or take symptoms seriously or treats with wrong product and causes permanent damage to hair follicles liable for damages and a lawsuit?

emedicine.medscape.com/arti...

hairgrowthsos.com/cicatrici...

[MCkit]

I think my hair loss could be caused by my use of levonorgestrel for the past few years but does it get better when you stop it? I also have b12 injections but feel I should be getting them more often so that wouldn’t help.

[Angelic69 in reply to MCkit]

If you follow the first link there should be an option on the bottom right to view other related pages were it also discusses that topic. As a quick reply you can get your androgen levles tested, if they are high maybe you could mention this to your GPs and ask for a non testosterone derived version of progesterone like medroxprogesterone and utrogestan.

[Angelic69 in reply to MCkit]

webmd.com/skin-problems-and....

[Rapunzel]

norethisterone as I learned to my cost is NOT a progesterone. It is a progestogen which is some synthetic sh*t which 'mimics' progesterone. Pharmas won't make progesterone because there's no money in it, it's already there, like vitamins which medics also fail to prescribe.

Natural progesterone cream may help, whatever you're taking this for and may actually make your hair grow thicker.

But there's always beautifulbetsy.co.uk/shop/ if that doesn't help.

[Angelic69 in reply to Rapunzel]

Can that cream be used as a sequential along with bio identicle estrogen? Where is a safe place to order from?

[Rapunzel in reply to Angelic69]

The brand I used was Life-Flo Progestacare which is available online. Do not buy Wild Yam cream. Progesterone is dervived from wild yam but wild yam cream is not the same...I am at the limit of my remembered knowledge now. I was post menopause at 46, some 15 years ago. Best to you x

[Angelic69 in reply to Rapunzel]

WOW post at 46, geeze. Thank you i will look that up. xx Is there an offical site to buy from.

[Rapunzel in reply to Angelic69]

Don't buy that. Sent a PM

[Angelic69 in reply to Rapunzel]

Dont buy that? Have no other suggestions apart from cream you just recomended?

[Rapunzel in reply to Angelic69]

I have sent you a PRIVATE MESSAGE you do have another recommendation in your private messages! Click on chat at the top of the screen

[Angelic69 in reply to Rapunzel]

Oh Thanks

[Angelic69]

I came across these versions, medroxprogesterone and utrogestan, which are not mentioned as increasing androgens. They are used in prempro, provera, cycrin, and premique.

[MCkit]

Thank you Lora. I have just read Period Repair Manual by Lara Briden and it is eye opening to say the least. She has mentioned levonorgestrel as a cause of hair loss , she cites a study for the Mirena coil with women experiencing hair loss and my pill would have a much stronger dose which could well be the cause but I am getting my thyroid tested as well though this has been checked before and apparently normal. I will not be taking hrt if I can help it, this book has made me realise I need to question doctors and be my own advocate for my health. Doctors just prescribe drugs and don’t look at the full picture and give a diagnosis based on that but rather treat individual symptoms , so frustrating. And going by the research you found this pill may have also caused me thyroid issues which would explain a lot but makes me so angry! I am 43 and no idea if I am perimenopausal but going to stop the pill and try and figure my body out without synthetic drugs.! Thanks so much for your response.

[MCkit]

The natural remedies are the best I find. If your skin on your face is dry marine collagen by bare biology is excellent and great for joints though is expensive. Coconut oil sounds it agrees with you though!

[Angelic69 in reply to MCkit]

I use marine collegen but my skin is still dry. Which brand do you use?

[MCkit in reply to Angelic69]

Bare biology it’s called skinful , expensive but great quality

[Angelic69 in reply to MCkit]

I did use holland and barretts which was good but they changed the formula and replaced the vit E with Vit C now its not so good. I will read up on that one and check out ingredients, thanks for the share.