Would like to know others thoughts please. As we all know, Thyroid condition is an auto-immune disease. I have 3 of the auto-immune conditions - but thankfully not the really serious ones that require immunosuppressants or steroids.
I always understood that having any type of vaccine could bring on another autoimmune condition - as the body wrongly starts to attack other parts of the body.
Therefore what are others doing when the vaccination for this terrible virus becomes available?
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Thyroid disorders are not always autoimmune.
For myself, and given that I have no evidence my issues are autoimmune, I am eagerly awaiting a vaccine. (Assuming it has passed its initial testing to be allowed wider circulation.)
A more difficult decision for others but we have to look at exactly what issues a vaccine could cause, if any. Until there is one, we have little to no understanding of the impact they could have. (Bear in mind, there are several very different approaches being pursued.)
I wasn't aware vaccines were a problem for sufferers of autoimmune thyroid disease. Why is this?
There is an unsubstantiated theory that vaccines can trigger autoimmune diseases. It isn't so much a threat if you already have hashimotos, but if you have the dormant gene, the theory is that it can trigger it.
I don't know whether there is any merit behind the theory though.
I think you have to weigh up the options really.
Putting the body under extreme stress can trigger an autoimmune disease, so it's a balance of whether you risk the vaccine causing this stress or risk the virus itself causing the stress.
The virus carries more risk than the vaccine to your overall health. I would think, so it's the lesser of 2 evils in my view.
The virus also causes others to get sick around you so that has to be part of the decision making process. For vaccinations to work well, we need almost everyone to have them. We need to stamp out the virus. Half and half doesn't work. Look at the rise of measles because of the antivaxers.
I have several autoimmune diseases but always have the flu vaccine with no problems, I will definitely be having the new one when its available, crazy not to in my view.
Important we are given choices - whatever the state of our health. Have never had the Flu vaccine -went to India without a single shot - had Asian Flu in 1957 and again recently.
There is more than one Covid virus circulating so getting the vaccine on target will be a challenge - even for Bill Gates and his teams.
As people vary hugely in the way they are affected by the virus - it concerns me the vaccine will behave similarly. Maybe they won't think us oldies worthy of a jab - suits me fine !
Vaccines produce a targetted effect, they will not trigger autoimmune diseases, this is a dangerous falsehood put about by a few nutters. If a Covid-19 vaccine becomes available it will save so many lives. Usually vaccines take years or decades, we can only hope one is available soon.
There is evidence for this "dangerous falsehood" in relation to numerous vaccines available on PubMed. I researched vaccines I had back in the 1970s. Calling those researchers, or anyone here who dares raise this question "nutters" is abusive.
'nutters' refers to doctors who peddle weird ideas to generate hits on their blogs / websites and thus enhance their fame and fortune. The virus is alien, a vaccine against it will not produce antibodies that attack our body. It is estimated that 80% of the population will catch the virus without immunisation. Given the choice between the live wild virus or a vaccine made of DNA from an inactivated virus I know which one I would choose. Fake news about vaccines causing autoimmune conditions costs lives, many lives, perhaps millions. Polio, smallpox, meningitis - where's the evidence these vaccines have stimulated autoimmunity? We've had hypothyroidism for centuries before vaccination and innoculation came about.
It is both abusive and immoral to ignore and deny that certain groups of people suffer vaccine damage. I lost many members of my Irish mothers side of the family due to vaccine damage, and I have suffered myself...a similar story to you Hillwoman. I have also witnessed it first hand in others. There is no one on this earth, regardless of their qualifications or wealth, that will ever convince me otherwise.
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Vaccines usually take years or decades to discover and develop. We don't have that time. If one isn't found (and I'm not that optimistic) we will have the choice of permanent lockdown or large scale mortality. A horrible choice, not so much our chance of kicking he bucket but the stress on NHS staff seeing dozens of people dying every day for many years or months. Long term lockdown would devastate the economy so much that we would have to drastically cut all spending including NHS (we can't all 'borrow' from each other). This could lead to even more deaths. Bill Gates warned that a pandemic was our greatest threat and has donated large amounts of money (OK he has lots, so do others).
I think people have not appreciated the scale of the problem and governments don't want to scare people. I'm not in favour of short-cutting vaccine testing any more than is necessary but we have some very difficult choices coming soon.
Really? I did some research some years ago as to whether I should have the flu vacc and some of the information I found said it was best not to because of the likelihood of inducing another autoimmune condition. Somebody I know who had thyroid had the flu vacc and immediately contracted Guillain Barre and was very ill.
I have several autoimmune conditions - three or four, depending on which doctor does the counting. 🙄 I now know that I was born with low thyroid function (all signs were there in early childhood) but autoimmunity in the form of Hashi's and PA didn't kick in until I had a set of exotic travel vaccinations in my teens, prior to a trip through north Africa and the Middle East.
I was one of only two people in a party of around 30 who had acute, debilitating reactions to each vaccination (as I'd had to an earlier BCG), and the other person recovered much quicker than I did. She is still in good health, but I am not. It was only after trawling through research papers on PubMed a couple of years ago that I found out those vaccinations given to me in the late 1970s were known to be contraindicated in people at familial risk of developing autoimmune disease - people like me, in other words. My family GP at the time would have known of this risk to me, but he did not warn me.
Specific autoimmune conditions have been known to develop as a consequence of specific vaccinations, but since vaccine manufacturers in the US (and possibly the UK too) were given indemnity from damage claims for any adverse effects, I can't imagine there is much incentive now to research this aspect of any new vaccine.
Yet another law passed very recently at the insistence/persuasion by Billy Boy to ensure damages for the new vaccine will be paid by the US state. If vaccines are safe why have billions been paid out in compensation for vaccine damage ?
US litigation culture, put your dog in the microwave to dry it off and it's the manufacturers fault -> no warning not to put dogs in microwave. If companies are asked to develop a vaccine so rapidly they would not be prepared to do so if they were subject to US style litigation - wouldn't be a sensible business decision. It's a risk benfit trade-off but the UK is free to set its own standards. These are not normal times. 'Billy Boy' is not profiting from this venture, quite the opposite.
Not talking about this vaccine - pharmaceutical companies were relieved of any responsibilities regarding vaccine damage some years ago in the US. Sorry but that allows them to be irresponsible and not deliver safely with the patient in mind.
Do you have any idea how many young girls have been damaged by the HPV vaccine globally ? A virus that is carried by the male and passed to the female during sex. Seems a bit out of whack to me.
You mention about Bill's money - all well and good to throw it around - but with that comes control.
Have you read the report - newly published out of Stanford University - quoting over estimation of deaths ? Worth a read ...
I thought your dog analogy quite distasteful - I am still grieving the loss of my beautiful dog ...
I saw This about 6am this morning on breakfast tv.
UK to trial using Covid-19 survivors' blood plasma for treatment.
A further point: have a read of these two blog posts by Dr Malcolm Kendrick on the subject of vaccination, and the stifling of debate about its necessity and efficacy. I don't think either post refers to autoimmunity specifically, but they are very thought-provoking.
Just by the way, Dr Kendrick is a practising GP who has managed to retain some critical thinking ability (rare in the medical profession) and respect for the fundamentals of scientific enquiry. No doubt he counts as one of Jim's "nutters".
I won't be having any vaccine until I know if I had the coronavirus back in January.
It a chance would I have the vaccine should one become available at such short testing time
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