T3 or Not T3

[megiyat]

hi everyone, I asked a question a couple of days ago, and seaside susie answered me but i cant get into read the whole message, so i need ask again, sorry, Has anyone ever tried the T3 from bodybuilding suppliers. I ordered T3 from a place in UK but I got it and it lists two other things as ingredients but does not actually say how much t3 is in them, they are large capsules, says take 2/3 3 times per day, and were £22,00 so does anyone know what the difference is with their T3 which seems to be what bodybuilders use to up their metabolism and fat burning rate and the medical T3 like liothyronine like cytomel and tiromel. are these any good or do I need the real stuff. Any advice about the actual stuff. I know already that people dont recommend bodybuilding sites koz of unknown but now I have done it, I need to know what the differences are, taking it for granted that they are a real supplement. Thanks

[Jazzw]

If it doesn’t say how much liothyronine is in it, there probably isn’t any liothyronine in it. There’s a body building supplement with a very misleading name that isn’t liothyronine at all.

Is that what you’re talking about?

If what you’re looking at doesn’t mention liothyronine or triiodothyronine then it isn’t what you’re looking for.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

There’s no post by you ....or even any replies by you from recently

Do you perhaps have a second account ?

First thing is, do you have any actual blood test results? if not will need to get hold of copies.

You are legally entitled to printed copies of your blood test results and ranges.

The best way to get access to current and historic blood test results is to register for online access to your medical record and blood test results

UK GP practices are supposed to offer everyone online access for blood test results. Ring and ask if this is available and apply to do so if possible, if it is you may need "enhanced access" to see blood results.

In reality many GP surgeries do not have blood test results online yet

Alternatively ring receptionist and request printed copies of results. Allow couple of days and then go and pick up.

Important to see exactly what has been tested and equally important what hasn’t been tested yet

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask GP to test vitamin levels

You may need to get full Thyroid testing privately as NHS refuses to test TG antibodies if TPO antibodies are negative

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available. Thousands on here forced to do this as NHS often refuses to test FT3 or antibodies

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

For thyroid including antibodies and vitamins

Medichecks Thyroid plus ultra vitamin or Blue Horizon Thyroid plus eleven are the most popular choice. DIY finger prick test or option to pay extra for private blood draw. Both companies often have special offers, Medichecks usually have offers on Thursdays, Blue Horizon its more random

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3 £29 (via NHS private service )

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

If antibodies are high this is Hashimoto's, (also known by medics here in UK more commonly as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all primary hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto's.

Low vitamins are especially common with Hashimoto's. Food intolerances are very common too, especially gluten.

So it's important to get TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once .

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/tuk/testing/t...

Link about antibodies and Hashimoto's

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

If you have low vitamin levels then neither Levothyroxine or T3 will work

Come back with new post once you get full test results and ranges

[Lalatoot]

Body building t3 is not necessarily liothyronine. Some if not all of it is a dietary supplement made from the guggul plant.

[SeasideSusie Remembering]

megiyat

Liothyronine (T3) doesn't come in large capsules, it comes in small tablets.

I have quickly looked through my replies for the last 7 days and I can't find a reply to you but I would have cautioned you not to order from bodybuilding sites because you never know what you are getting.

Does it say liothyronine sodium as one of the ingredients on the label?

What are the other ingredients listed?

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

If it doesn't say, specifically, triiodothyronine or liothyronine (might have some extra characters such as hyphens and numbers), then it is very unlikely to be T3.

All real T3 would also state the dose - somewhere - as 5, 10, 12.5, 25, 50 or even 100 micrograms.

Bodybuilders do use real T3 but often seem to buy products which claim unfeasibly high dosages. And they use (or at least, are sold) products with names that suggest T3 but are something else, as Lalatoot has said.

If it is being sold in the UK, in the open, it won't be T3.

[endomad in reply to helvella]

That would explain an old post by a body builder on here, he was taking 3-400mcg daily, my mouth was open and silent! I was bit stunned, I take 75-100mcg a day and have been on 150mcg day. I remember thinking how combined with steroids he was still alive. Maybe he was taking bodybuilding pretend t3 instead.

[greygoose]

does not actually say how much t3 is in them, they are large capsules, says take 2/3 3 times per day

Real T3 - that is to say the hormone T3 - would never be so vague in its instructions. What you have bought is a nutritional supplement of some kind, not hormone.