Had enough of going to the docs now, been 3 times for the same symptoms of which I have posted on here before
I went to the doctors last week because I literally felt like I was going to pass out for 3 days straight and being so brain foggy I couldn't do simple tasks of which I've been doing over the passed 7 years without problems, it got so bad I have had to have a sick note for last week because I felt so I'll, he seems to think it's been viral and to come back if the symptoms persist, in the week I've been off I took another blood test for my thyroid the results are
TSH 4.38 (0.27-4.2)
FT4 13.8 (12-22)
test was done with Thriva
I have had 3 tests which show my tsh is over range now, I've done some research and since I'm showing symptoms is this enough evidence to ask the gp for a trial of levothyroxine? I've been on folic acid since my folate was low the last time I went but I honestly dont feel any benefit from taking it so surely it must be something else, I have honestly had enough now it's really starting to affect my relationship with my partner and in turn my 7 month old daughter since I'm too exhausted to do anything other than lay on the settee and sleep
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Yes, I had them done when I first had a private test and they showed as normal not raised, he saw my results on the the tests he ordered and said I was normal and started asking if I was a happy man seeing if I was depressed.
Can you see a different gp? My thyroid was borderline for years and i was finally put on meds after birth of my first child, not sure if pregnancy had anything to do with it but suspect i should have been on these way before, i would see another gp and ask for trial of meds, very frustrating
Thanks a lot for replying by the way, I'm actually seeing a different gp on tuesday ill ask him to see if he will give me a trial, it's just like you say very frustrating because my partner is on the side of the doctor and thought I was just being lazy till I actually broke down after a 14 hour sleep to her, I'm sure you know yourself when you know your own body and know when somethings wrong, it's getting worse because the hair on my legs is slowly going away and dry skins on my legs, and I've noticed since feeling cold I dont sweat anymore even tho my job is working around molten zinc at times
B vitamins best taken in the morning after breakfast
Igennus Super B complex are nice small tablets. Often only need one tablet per day, not two. Certainly only start with one tablet per day after breakfast. Retesting levels in 6-8 weeks
Your B12 so low you may also need sublingual B12 lozenges (eg Jarrow B12)
But, it appears that you have never discussed B12 (see Marz below). And, I'm wondering if you understand the importance of this vitamine. Starting you on folic acid supplements without addressing B12 shows that your doctor doesn't understand the importance, either. I find that rather worrying.
I did ask about b12 and he said it was fine while I did disagree and he just said supplement, I have recently started supplementing b12 instead of a complex as i thought it would be too much folic acid on top of what i would already be taking wouldnt it?
As far as I know, folic acid is water soluble, so excess is excreted. But, on the other hand, I wouldn't take folic acid at all. I would ditch the prescription and buy methylfolate. I do buy methylfolate! In a B complex.
But, what was your B12 result? Doctors will say it's 'fine' if it's just scraping into range, because they do not understand ranges. If it's right at the bottom of the range, though, you should have been tested for Pernicious Anemia. It is so important to always get the actual numbers, and not just your doctor's uneducated opinion.
b12 was 338 (197-771) I know and with advice on this forum I actively get results from the doctors now, on the first test since I started symptoms it was a lot lower but still 'in range' and the last doctor said it was fine
So, that was 338 (197-771) without any supplementation? OK, so that's not too bad. Not good, of course, but probably high enough to rule out PA. Could be causing a lot of symptoms, though. What are you supplementing with? How much?
it's just a tablet, money was a bit tight so I got what I could afford until payday this month, I'll have to look at the packaging when I get back, I dont know the actual measurement for it buts its 500 and 20000 of the rda
20000% of the recommended daily allowance, sorry about the confusion, I dont know what the symbol is on the bottle but I think its 500mg if that sounds about right?
500 mcg. OK, so the RDA isn't a very reliable guide, especially not when you're deficient. So, that doesn't mean very much. But, 500 mcg is a decent dose for your level of B12, to begin with. When you've finished the bottle, go on to 1000 mcg as a maintenance dose. But, I hope it's methylcobalamin and not cyanocobalamin.
In your last post/thread you were asked if B12 had been tested. You didn't respond. If your Folate was low then it is more than likely your B12 will be too. Low B12 and Low thyroid can produce similar symptoms. Also supplementing Folic Acid/Folate/B9 can mask B12 Deficiency. Do not supplement before testing.
500iu I think it is? my ferritin was 159 (30-400) and my vitamin d was at 61 when i last got tested but since i have been taking 4000iu of vitamin d3, always had some d3 at hand since I work in a factory and have limited time to be in the sun
When you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before any blood tests, as biotin can falsely affect test results
No the doctor said my b12 was fine so no need, supplements I currently take are folic acid 5mg, vitamin d 4000iu (last test before xmas showed it increased to 61 which was before xmas) I usually supplement anyway due to working in a factory and having limited sunlight I just increased dosage, recently taking b12 instead of a b complex due to being on 5mg folic acid as I think it would be too much on top? i do supplement with magnesium every now and again whether it be with magnesium oil or bisglycinate and I take vitamin c every other day on top
When Docs say fine/normal/ok they mean ' in range ' - but is where you are in the range that is key. Decide which information you wish to follow and stick with it - as Docs rarely know enough about vits and minerals 😥
believe me I'm following the information you guys give, when I said the doc said I was ok it was a bit of a dig at the doctor because like you say it is where you are in the range,
Good grief, this sounds a nightmare for you & I am new to thyroid disorders myself though witnessed it in family members. It's very dependent on the GP or Consultant you see sadly, a true lottery. However, their are guidelines where you can trial thyroid meds for three months regardless of bloods should you show symptoms of thyroid disorders. A private consultant told me this however I have yet to put it to the test. Think TUK mention it on their website, maybe if you can go armed with this info you may have more success. Good luck x
Correct to get vits and mins sorted, but here are the NICE guidelines that your Dr may not be aware of as they only came in before Christmas. Take the info with you to the appointment.
Thanks for that, I think that's the kind of ammunition I need when I see the doc, I'll see how it goes and hopefully come back and get some more opinions from people
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OK, so the RDA isn't a very reliable guide, especially not when you're deficient. So, that doesn't mean very much. But, 500 mcg is a decent dose for your level of B12, to begin with. When you've finished the bottle, go on to 1000 mcg as a maintenance dose. But, I hope it's methylcobalamin and not cyanocobalamin. 
Has anyone had to have a second blood test because they didn't draw enough blood the first time?
Is tsh alone enough to diagnose?
Enough is enough. 
