I just wanted to share this post on the benefits of celery juice and thyroid healing.
I found it interesting. I have been juicing celery now for a couple of weeks but I also cut out gluten as advised on this forum.
I must admit I haven’t had brain fog since making these small changes to my diet.
Here’s is the post but read on as it explains from a different perspective the cause of thyroid issues:
medicalmedium.com/blog/cele...
I would be interested to hear views on this article.
Thank you
Thank you
Oh dear. I think he needs to change his spirit guides! I'm not saying that celery juice isn't good for you, I'm sure it has many health benefits. But this article reads more like science fiction than the super natural. It reads like he just did a lot of googling, didn't understand all he read, and made up the rest to fill the gaps. All this about 'science doesn't know this yet, but...' It's like a fanciful child wrote it! I think it's terrible.
Well, anyone who asserts that they were born with the unique ability to converse with the Spirit of Compassion who provides them with extraordinarily accurate health information that’s often far ahead of its time, should perhaps be given a wide berth. However it probably explains why he believes that researchers are apparently so frustrated at not finding cures that "they pointed the blame at people’s bodies, which took the blame off of medical research and science, and unfortunately, the theory (of autoimmunity) has stuck and become law." Oh dear.
I like celery. I eat A LOT of celery. My thyroid is still f**ked though and I’m not really noticing any of the other benefits claimed here! Celery is nice if you like it, probably good for you in comparison to burger and chips, so enjoy celery. It won’t change your life though!
I think you have to juice the celery every morning before food. Nothing is a miracle of course but if it helps then great ! I was more interested in the pathogen EBV and that celery can cleanse the thyroid and body of metals. Thanks for responding
I hate celery juice; it tastes so salty I can't face it.
Thank you - yes I agree with your responses and I’m just learning of course and looking for alternatives. But I do think that the EBV pathogen makes sense and many other points he raises. Even if as he says, celery juice balances the stomach acids, then that will lead to better absorption of the nutrients we need particularly as people with thyroid problems may have low acid and are likely to be nutrient deficient. I liked his stance even though it may be very different and thought why not give a try a see how I feel. I do feel a boost in energy but I have also given up gluten which is likely to be a big contributory factor!! Thanks for those that replied
I think you should give the gluten-free a long trial before you start juicing celery, so that you know exactly what is doing what.
I don't know if you can have EBV without ever knowing it, but as far as I know, I haven't had it. I still got Hashi's. And, I was brought up on celery as my mother was fanatical about it. She was hypo, too. But don't know if it was Hashi's.
Ok thanks for the advice
It seems from this research that a high population have EBV and will affect our immune system: this is an interesting post, I wasn’t sure what it was so looked it up
Most people have been exposed to or have had EBV and CMV by the time they reach adulthood and will have built up antibodies which are testable. Positive VCA-IgG and positive EBNA-IgG mean past infection. Yes, you can have a full blown case of EBV/mono without ever knowing it, as well as the very common CMV (cytomegalovirus). The only way to know if you had or have EBV or CMV is to do complete testing of both. I was surprised to learn I'd had EBV because it always comes with the stigma of extreme prolonged symptoms. I probably just thought I got run down, had a flu or an ongoing cold at the time. I also had CMV at some unknown point.
Thanks for that information.
I will look into it further and am becoming more inclined to have the tests.
How did you treat the EBV and CMW?
Debbie
Once infected, both viruses remain in your body for life and can become re-activated. There is no way to treat it, it has to run it's course. Some people have luck with treating symptoms by taking anti-viral medications or even steroids. Supposedly there was an EBV vaccine in the works even way back in 2006, but that has not come into fruition yet. CMV is the same.
OK, well, no chance of me ever getting tested for that! So, I guess we'll never know. 
It's great (I guess?) to know if you had either, but it doesn't really matter since nothing can be done about it. Plus, EBV and CMV don't always cause autoimmune disease just because you get them. It takes perfect storm or repeat offenses of situations to disrupt the immune system and a cascade of events. Most of my life I rarely got sick. It was the series of little illnesses here, some infection there, an injury or operation to heal from there, that all added up. 
In my next life I'll consider wearing more bubble wrap and not working too hard and too long to the point of getting a bit run down as I have in this life! At the time, you think you're invincible!
You certainly do! But, I was always sick with something. And have displayed symptoms of hypo since I was about 8. No idea, of course, when the Hashi's set in, because I was never tested for anything thyroid. So, who knows.
Sorry but what is EBV and CMV?
You can find most abbreviations in my document:
dropbox.com/s/2423slilh0or6...
(Have just added CMV. )
That’s great thanks x
EBV is Epstein Barr, and is also called Mono or Mononucleosis. CMV is Cytomegalovirus. Both are very common viruses that most people have had or have been exposed to by the time they reach adulthood. In certain individuals, these viruses can trigger autoimmune disease and other health problems.
I’ve been tested and I had both at some point in my life. I have no idea when I had Mono because no one ever tested me for it when I was sick until I was 46. Either I didn’t bother going to the doctor at whenever I had it and just suffered through it, or I saw a doctor and they said I just had “a virus”. Now I have autoimmune disease and other immune system disfunction.
Hope you don’t mind me asking but should I not be eating gluten? I have never been told this I’m under active.
Do you have Hashi's?
No
Then gluten-free probably won't do anything for you. It's Hashi's people that profit from cutting out gluten.
Thank goodness I would struggle 😂
You’ve had the two antibodies for Hashi’s tested and both are normal range? Most doctors do not know to test both antibodies. If only the commonly tested one, TPOab, was tested, and it’s companion, TGab, was not tested, you still might have Hashi’s. Only testing both will tell for sure at the time.
Antibodies do change over time. All of us who have Hash’s would have tested normal once upon a time.
There are as many opinions as there are members!
They range from saying that all wheat (and other gluten-containing) cereals should never be eaten. To totally ignoring it.
I suspect some people feel better avoiding gluten, some really are gluten sensitive, some prefer to avoid any perceived risk.
I suggest you write a brand new post. Discussions on old threads often die out very quickly or are totally missed.
(I eat gluten pretty much every day and have never felt I would be better off without it. Less carbohydrate might be a good idea for me! )
Thanks for that x
Lots of people are following medicalmedium on Instagram if anyone is interested. Merry Christmas to all on this forum. Lots of love, Debbie
That is interesting, Debbie. I also juice celery along with other vegetables and enjoy it. I find it hard to find organic celery but I understand it is easy to grow. I may try that.
Ocado for organic celery OK
Thank you - yes I too am going to look into growing celery. So some more reading I guess!
I eat organic celery everyday with my lunch, I have done this for the past 20 years or more.
I don't think the article is true but celery is good for you anyway. I have always eaten a very healthy diet for 72 years but still had to have my gallbladder and thyroid removed.
It's good for you to juice celery but makes no difference to your thyroid health.
Bunnyjean, have you ever had a food sensitivity test? Now that we've learned so much about the microbiome and bacteria and how it affects your body, it seems we should know if some perfectly innocent food can give the wrong reaction ....like apples. I haven't heard what it is about apples but that some should not eat them. I haven't done it myself yet. Dr. Tom O'Bryan offers some of those tests. In fact, Groupon offered them at a very low cost but I didn't have time to do the research.
I have never had any tests I have a cast iron digestive system and never have any problems. My partner does and us careful with his food.
The problem is that it attacks the brain or other function and NOT your stomach so you don't really know and you may not have symptoms for a long time. I felt the same way as I can eat anything but it doesn't necessarily mean you are ok.
Interesting, I may try and go without my celery now. On the other hand my mother and father (adopted) ate celery everyday. Mother died at the age of 99 yrs and father at 92 yrs they both had very active brains? My father was a wholesale greengrocer so I was brought up on many varieties of fruit and vegetables including the dreaded celery. I only eat a half stick a day so not juicing lots and lots.
Juicing the celery is way way better that eating it along with the fiber. By just juicing it, you can achieve the healing benefits, please read medicamedium so you may fully understand the difference of eating it raw and consuming just the juice first thing in the morning. I can also attest to that. 🙂
From my understanding the juice of celery will destroy the pathogen EBV, which he claims is the cause of autoimmune disorders. Must be juice and first thing in the morning. I take my thyroxine and then juice about 45 minutes later. I think a food sensitivity test is good as Heloise suggested. And also learning more about the microbiome so our healthy gut bacteria is strong to aid optimum absorption of foods. I have a lot of learning to do but one important aspect I learnt from the kind ladies that responded to my earlier posts was how important it is to cut out gluten. I’ve already made that change but will be seeing a nutritionist tomorrow to help me more over the coming months. It will be I treating to experience the changes in my health linked to improving my diet. I already feel so much better from just doing the celery juice and cutting out gluten over the past two weeks. So looking forward to learning more ... I have struggled with lack of energy and brain fog so if I can improve my energy levels and gain mental clarity 70 per cent of the time I would be much happier!! Thanks everyone
Great News hard work but an excellent result so far
Just about ANYTHING can eventually trigger an unhealthy immune response and can cause autoimmune disease, not just EBV, if your immune system becomes confused and starts attacking healthy tissue. CMV, any virus, any bacteria, any fungus. Exposure to chemicals. Exposure to allergens like pet dander, pollen, additives in cosmetics and anything applied to the body. Disruption of gut health. Smoking. Exposure to polluted air. Food allergies. Basically any of these things can trigger your immune system into malfunctioning if the situation is right (wrong).
Ok, I understand.
I think this is more along the lines of what interested me in the celery juice posting. That a virus or as you say many could be the root cause of autoimmune disorders. It’s exactly this that I need to understand as I will then hopefully be able to find more suitable approaches to supporting my health. I don’t believe (at the moment) that I can cure this condition or that there is any miracle food but I certainly need to understand from the correct standpoint the cause and what it is that I need to treat and what foods are / are not suitable for me in order that I regain to some degree my energy and mind!
Thank you I will look further into what you have said here.
Best wishes, Debbie
I read Medical Medium avidly as it has everything I've ever had wrong with me in it. I really do think he is on to something with the EBV - I had glandular fever at 18 and the EBV still showed up in my blood test a few years ago. And certainly lots of people have it without knowing it, and it seems it doesn't ever leave once we have it. But I tried his 28 day cleanse, and whilst I did feel better at about day 17, I did end up with arthritis again because there were lots of tomatoes in the diet. And he insists that every food he says is good is good for everyone, which is where I think every 'expert' fails with their dietary advice - we are all different and need to eat what's right for us. And tomatoes are definitely not right for me!
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