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Medical Medium Thyroid healing! Will it work!?

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So I have been following the medical medium book religiously for 3 weeks now, by going gluten and dairy free, drinking all his homemade juices, including celery juice and the blueberry heavy metal detox juice, iv been staying clear of gluten free products due to their additives and eating wholes foods and fresh meat, to be honest I do not feel any better or any different, probably more depressed if anything 😞

Has anyone followed this book!?

And did it work!?

Thanks in advance for any info it will be much appreciated 😊

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helvellaAdministrator

Do you believe in his spirit guiding him?

If not, why believe anything else?

Not necessarily that everything including is wrong or untrue. But when you mix what might be classed as nonsense in with decent information, it is difficult to see what is what.

He has made lots of money out of that book. And at least most of its contents can be gleaned from the internet.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply tohelvella

Thank you for your response, no I don’t believe in the spiritual stuff if I’m honest 😆 I was told about this book by a friend who has RA and she said when she goes gluten free all her pains stop!

To be honest I’m finding it really hard, I’m always hungry! 🤤 and I’m already quite slim, I miss cakes! 😅

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toThyroidObsessed

I am not against trying gluten-free.

But if you do have an issue which just could be coeliac, it is more important to get tested while still consuming sufficient gluten. Otherwise you have to go back on gluten in order for the test to be valid. (I can't remember the details.)

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greygoose in reply toThyroidObsessed

Gluten-free might very well work for your friend. It works for a lot of people. And, all you need to know about it is freely available on-line, you don't need a spiritual guide. SlowDragon is always recommending/insisting people try it, and I don't think she has a spiritual guide. 🤣🤣🤣

But, it doesn't help everybody - did nothing for me. So, obviously, gluten has never been my problem. Things that have worked for me - without any help from anybody, dead or alive! - have been optimising the nutrients I was low on - B12, iron, zinc, magnesium - and going T3 only - and quite a high dose at that. And, we have to find these things out by trial and error. You can read about my journey on my profile, if you're interested.

My considered opinion is that this man is a charlatan, making money out of desperate people. His 'spiritual guide' is called 'the internet' by most people, because that's where he got most of his information. He really knows nothing about the thyroid, it's workings, or how to treat the various thyroid problems - just like a doctor, although he's not a doctor himself - and that is the crux of the matter: we're not getting the help we deserve from those that ought to be providing it. So, out of desperation, we grab and any straw we find. And, like most con men, he knows that. And, like most con men, he's taken advantage of it. I think he's a dispicable excuse for a human being.

Sorry for the rant.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply togreygoose

Thank you for your reply! I agree with what you are saying for sure! And yes desperation is very much the reason I grabbed this book when it was recommended! My nutrients are all optimal I would start rattling when I walk if I take anymore! 😂

I find it very hard to increase my T3 meds as I have to do it at a quarter at a time, as it affects me brain if I increase too much it’s awful, sometimes I wonder if I need T3 at all, but from blood results the endo said I have a T4 protein binding issue!? Not sure wot that means other than my T4 used to stay over range but my tsh was high too! This changed when I started T3 my tsh went down and so did my T4 and the T3 has risen all good results other than I feel no different 😞

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greygoose in reply toThyroidObsessed

Everybody should be increasing T3 1/4 tablet at a time, that's the right way to do it.

I'm not sure what your endo means by 'a T4 protein binding issue', either - I even wonder if he does! - I've never heard of that before. Thyroid hormones become bound to carrier proteins to be transported round the blood, but I don't see what that's got to do with T3 - and how would he know, anyway? lol Usually, T3 is prescribed because people have problems with conversion of T4 to T3, which would give you a high FT4 and possibly high TSH, but low FT3.

Taking T3 will lower, and often suppress, TSH, and lower FT4. That's what it does. But, without more detail - blood test results and ranges, how much T4/T3 you're taking, etc. - it's impossible to say more. Could be you're just not taking enough.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply togreygoose

Thank you, I have replied to slowdragon below with my latest results and what I take 🙂

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greygoose in reply toThyroidObsessed

Well, your FT3 could be higher. You're only taking a tiny dose. And, some people need it right at the top of the range to feel well. But, I definitely think you need to take it, no doubt about that.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply togreygoose

Thank you I have recently started a tiny increase of a quarter of my 5mcg tablet, I currently take 100mcg of levo and 5mcg of T3, I have to take the t3 throughout the day in quarters, as taking it whole or in half sends my brain zappy, if I’m on too much I always know as I get like a sharp tension in the front of my head/brain very weird… I will also get the shakes and anxiety too…another weird thing is when I go hypo I lose weight too! I’m already slim at 5foot 6 and 9 stone 8, which is very contradictive of hashis/hypo!

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greygoose in reply toThyroidObsessed

No, not really. Losing weight can be a hypo symptom just as gaining-weight can be. You probably aren't absorbing much of what you eat. There are quite a few hypos that lose weight, rather than gaining it.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply togreygoose

oh so it’s not just me then, I thought I was weird 😆 …

Iv put a little weight on since taking T3, but I also have started with a swollen stomach and constant UTI’s aswell amongst changes in periods, but I think I am peri menopausel, so that’s gonna be a whole new ball game 😅

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greygoose in reply toThyroidObsessed

No, it's not just you. :)

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Sparklingsunshine in reply tohelvella

Hi

Any health 'expert' that says you need to detox is spouting nonsense and is a snake oil salesman. We naturally detox everyday, that's what our liver and kidneys do.

And juicing can be expensive and I'm always dubious about its so called benefits, eating fresh fruit and veg in its normal form with all of the fibre intact has got to be better. He sounds like a quack in all honesty.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply toSparklingsunshine

Thank you I struggle to eat fruit I always feel sicky if I eat them whole, so blending them seems a better option for me, so I will definitely stick with the drinks from the book ☺️

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jimh111

When I see the word "Truth" or "Pravda" I tend to assume it is not true, just made up. Carry on eating fresh foods and juices if they taste nice but I don't believe they can reverse thyroid damage.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply tojimh111

Thank you, the book has definitely taught me a healthier way of eating 😊

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Well you need thyroid levels optimal

What are your most recent Ft4 and Ft3 results

Are you still prescribed T3 and how much

Always get same brand levothyroxine at each prescription

Gluten free diet helps thousands……so he jumped on the bandwagon with that

You might need dairy free too …..if not tried it

Generally…..his book not well regarded

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ThyroidObsessed in reply toSlowDragon

My latest thyroid results are -Free T3 - 5.67 (3.1 - 6.8)

Free T4 - 19.2 (11.0 - 23.0)

TSH - 0.23 (0.27 - 4.5)

I’m currently on 100mcg of levo (mercurypharma only brand) and 5mcg of liothyronine… I really struggle dosing with the T3 as it is so strong I have to increase by tiny quarters of a tablet, it’s so frustrating 😫 I sometimes wonder if I need it, but I’m to scared to stop as worry I’ll be worse!

I’m not celiac I have been tested and was negative whilst eating gluten…

I do know I’m dairy intolerant I.e I can’t drink a big milkshake without stomach ache…

So I don’t really have dairy other than chocolate 🤭….

All my nutrients are great as I supplement and eat a varied diet…

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toThyroidObsessed

I’m not celiac I have been tested and was negative whilst eating gluten…

I would suggest you try strictly gluten free diet 3-6 months

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

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Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

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The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

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In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

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Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

Sometimes the ONLY thing that changes is slow reduction in TPO antibodies

So definitely get thyroid antibodies retested before considering going back on gluten

arTistapple profile image
arTistapple

Green Juices are great for constipation, indigestion and calming down my thyroid when I feel it is inflamed. No idea about spiritual ‘medium’ so can’t comment there.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply toarTistapple

Thank you 😊 What great juices do you have? What do you recommend?

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arTistapple

I do my own. The prepared greens you can buy are foul. I try quite a few. My current favourite is two pears, four medjool dates, a fistful of walnuts or hazelnuts and as much spinach as I can get into the vitamix. Finally fill the jug half way up with hazelnut milk. Whizz. This will give me two servings of about 1 pint each. Fab.

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ThyroidObsessed in reply toarTistapple

Thank you I will give this a try for sure! 😋

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helvellaAdministrator in reply toarTistapple

I'd be a touch careful about high spinach intake. The oxalate content can contribute to the formation of kidney stones.

And the purine content might contribute to gout in those who are susceptible.

I'd be perfectly happy to consume more modest quantities of spinach - and do. :-)

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humanbean

This is not intended to be taken seriously...

When I see anyone talking about their "spirit guide" in any context I always think to myself "But what if your spirit guide was an idiot during life?"

And I wonder where spirit guides get their medical knowledge from after death. You might end up with an ancient Greek physician who believed in the four humours i.e. the belief that the body is made up of differing proportions of blood, yellow bile, black bile and phlegm.

I think it is clear that the medical medium (aka Anthony William Coviello aka Anthony William) believes implicitly in the internet.

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greygoose in reply tohumanbean

🤣 Oh, very well said!

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